Don't be vague, you don't agree because?
Do you have a better game of this type, do tell i'll go and play it.
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Engineers stifles the game.
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Don't be vague, you don't agree because?
Do you have a better game of this type, do tell i'll go and play it.
I gather he means hate speech is a term reserved for more serious matters and not very well applied here. On a side note, despite my misgivings on how engineers is currently implemented, this is my favourite game and the sole purpose for my hotas.
Yes, well put. Despite its many flaws, the sole purpose for my HOTAS as well.
Why it's true that it's not mandatory, it also true that it's objectively worse to not engineer your ship. So by not engaging in engineers you're handicapping yourself needlessly.
You do it for the advantages it gives you, like everyone else. It's almost like you need them, to do better.
A grindy game can be a casual game you just look at mobile games and you'll realise how wrong about this you are. Well duh it has become a game I don't like, but then again it started out as a game I loved playing and was up until 2.1.
Let's start off with defining "better". What's "better" to you and "better" to me could be very different.
Are there other "fly-a-ship-around-in-space" games, yes, quite a few. Kerbal Space Program, Star Citizen, Star Trek: Online, the Mass Effect Trilogy - soon to be a Quadrology, just to name a few.
Now, KSP is a bit of a different sort of game, with a very different look, and it doesn't really appeal to me.
Star Citizen is far from being a "complete" game, in that it is still missing many features, and it doesn't compare in scale.
Star Trek: Online has nearly all the same sorts of things to offer we have here, plus definite story lines, though it lacks the complexity of control and "hands-on" feeling we have here. But I also enjoy it too, when I want something a little different.
Mass Effect: I'd not even heard of this series until about a year ago, and very quickly feel deeply in love with it. Not only is the story complex, the characters compelling, and the consequences of your actions quite "real", they also span across all three titles, which is something you don't often see in games - have a companion die in Mass Effect, they're still dead in Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3. ME: Andromeda promises to be something of a fresh start in the series, so it waits to be seen. I know I'm waiting to see it for sure!
So it's simply the matter of stating Elite is "the best" game of this genre. But make no mistake, it is an amazing game. But does it have its flaws? Certainly. Bugs that go unfixed, career paths that are in dire need of some serious attention (Explorer much?), a strongly divided community largely split over matters of opinion, a lack of more than a few customization options, and the sheer amount of untapped potential that may or may not ever get touched are all elements that, to me, hold Elite back from reaching its potential, making it less than "best". But for its flaws, it is still a truly impressive game that I enjoy, perhaps more than I should.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with an opinion, except to state an opinion is fact, as these are contradictory in nature.
Back you, Shar, what makes Elite "the best" for you? And the challenge, can you step back objectively and see Elite's faults as well?
And as to "hate speech", yes, I did also intend to imply that it is a strong phrase, typically reserved for truly serious and generally offensive language that serves only to inspire contempt.
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This is pretty much how it is. as much as I dislike Engineers (just too many layers of RNG for my tastes), if you want to play in open, you kinda need to do it. I've not got too many mods yet, L5 FSD is the main one that most of my ships have, but grinding out the engineers I don't need to get tot he ones I want is sucking up a lot of time. Fortunately, I am smart enough to stop the grind before it drives me mad and go do something else for a while.
My ships, one day, will all be nicely modded, but for now, it's modular terminals whenever I can get them...
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Concerning about 90% of the materials I have it down to a science, so it really doesn't seem like a grind to me. As I said earlier in this thread I started out the other day with the objective of unlocking Didi Vadderman and upgrading 5x SCB's to G5. I managed it in roughly 2.5 hours playtime, including gathering materials and commodities and unlocking her with 50 units of Lavian Brandy. 2.5 hours playtime and now I have 5 G5 SCB's to add to my already G5 shield generator. I wish getting my hands on a Cutter were the same kind of grind
Re: MT's. Don't forget that you can drop them off in batches at Quent's, as opposed to hauling them around looking for more at the same time.
Having just spent several days unwilling to leave my python because I didn't have the cargo space for the engineer mats I was carrying around, unable to do HazRez (same reason), and unable to spend on engineers because I didn't have the super rares (like highest focus crystals or modified firmware); I was finally killed (toddler aggro) to lose it all... and now I can't find landmines either.
Yea: Engineer implamentation sucks.
Yea: Engineer implamentation sucks.
I was upgrading my new python a couple nights ago and went to Tod with a load of MW cooling hoses and reinforced mounting plates, forgetting I had lost a level of rep with him doing requests. Tried level 1 upgrades, too slow. Spent 2 hours doing super boring nav beacon bounty hunting to build rep, too boring. Second evening, got fed up and went to a hazres. I just made sure to surround myself with as many cops as possible. Still had to run away a couple times, when jumped by multiple ships, but it is doable.