EVGA & Nvidia Breakup - Thoughts?
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EVGA, Popular Graphics Card Maker, Parts Ways With Nvidia In Messy Breakup
The company will continue to sell its remaining RTX 30-series cards, but will cease all GPU production moving forward
kotaku.com
I think alot of people knew Nvidia was not a nice company to deal with for their partners and sometimes end users. So I am not surprised. I hope Evga as a company survives this, Nvidia I hope learns a lesson, but I really doubt Nvidia will learn anything. My old pc is an Intel I5-2500k with an Nvidia 1070. My new pc is an Amd 5900x with an Amd Rx 6800, not much I can do except support companies that give better deals to their end users and do not seem to beat up their partners as much as Nivida.
So good for Evga for taking a stand, and I hope it works out for them.
So good for Evga for taking a stand, and I hope it works out for them.
Totally agree.
Will add that my next purchase will be AMD.
intel & nvidia can do one
I was actually very impressed with this comment on that article:
The Call is Coming from Inside the Nash
Imagine how badly you've screwed things up when your business practices force a company called "Extreme Video Graphics Adapters" to CEASE MAKING VIDEO GRAPHICS ADAPTERS.
The Call is Coming from Inside the Nash
Imagine how badly you've screwed things up when your business practices force a company called "Extreme Video Graphics Adapters" to CEASE MAKING VIDEO GRAPHICS ADAPTERS.
I saw likes of evga don't get cost prices confirmed until the day we get selling prices from Jenson.
Manufacturers cannot design and produce things like that. Imagine the expected margins turn out to be lower, nightmare.
Likes of evga aren't allowed to modify and allow more power limits
Manufacturers cannot design and produce things like that. Imagine the expected margins turn out to be lower, nightmare.
Likes of evga aren't allowed to modify and allow more power limits
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I've sworn by EVGA for years.
In fact, I just installed my new EVGA 1800 mhz RTX 3060 Ti last week.
In fact, I just installed my new EVGA 1800 mhz RTX 3060 Ti last week.
It's mostly an irrelevant situation for consumers who aren't blinded by brand loyalty. EVGA had some nice models and generally good warranty service, but they weren't remotely the only NVIDIA AIB.
When it comes to NVIDIA's business, EVGA was a drop in the bucket; they aren't going to sell any less product because of the loss of one AIB. It may be prudent for them to reevaluate how they treat partners however, as they need some AIBs to have a healthy consumer marketplace.
EVGA is probably in trouble. GPUs were a substantial majority of their revenue, and even if it hadn't been profitable recently, the company that is left when that part of the business is excised doesn't have a whole lot to it.
When it comes to NVIDIA's business, EVGA was a drop in the bucket; they aren't going to sell any less product because of the loss of one AIB. It may be prudent for them to reevaluate how they treat partners however, as they need some AIBs to have a healthy consumer marketplace.
EVGA is probably in trouble. GPUs were a substantial majority of their revenue, and even if it hadn't been profitable recently, the company that is left when that part of the business is excised doesn't have a whole lot to it.
But it does make people like me question them, and perhaps give AMD another look the next time a video card purchase comes up. After all, even a loyal car brand person starts to look around when their particular make and model of car is discontinued.
Remember last year when EVGA cards started cooking themselves when pushed to their limits by New World? Not exactly a great advertisement for NVIDIA (and New World copped a fair bit of blame too) even though the flaw was due to EVGA's design using parts that were unsuitable for the job...
- It was ONE card. The RTX 3090.
- The issue was found to be a faulty fan controller on that particular model that allowed the fans to go to runaway speeds and burn themselves out.
- EVGA replaced all of them for free.
It wasn't fan controllers, it was MOSFETs (voltage regulators) that couldn't handle the load required. Regardless of whether they replaced them or not, the damage to the brand(s) was already done.
Turns out, a runaway frame rate might not have been the issue at all. A new report from Igor’sLAB seems to have narrowed down the problem to EVGA’s fan controller, which just runs buck-wild during New World game sessions.
Igor'sLAB ran New World on an EVGA RTX 3090 with several hardware monitoring programs going to see what might pop out. As you can see from the screenshot, the GPU fan went from a cool and quiet 1600 RPM to north of 200,000 RPM, which must have caused quite the racket.
At that fast a speed, the fan is likely to burn itself out, which would then lead to the GPU operating without enough cooling. If the player didn't notice the fan had died and kept playing, it could lead to a catastrophic failure of the graphics card.
EVGA has already agreed to help players with bricked RTX 3090s and replace them free of charge.
Issue Causing New World To Cook RTX 3090 Video Cards Has Been Isolated
We’re narrowing in on just what is causing RTX 3090 video cards to brick themselves while playing New World.
www.thegamer.com
That was the initial conclusion reached by some amateurs and parroted by every tech site. Then a few months later EVGA confirmed the actual cause, which you can easily find if you use Google.
Thanks for demonstrating that incorrect truths, especially if they're widely reported by tech "news" sites, will still stick in people's minds though.
Thanks for demonstrating that incorrect truths, especially if they're widely reported by tech "news" sites, will still stick in people's minds though.
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Or, and I'm just spit-balling here, you could post some links that back up your claims; especially the part about reputable sites just copying "some armatures". I'd really like to see that.
Not surprised, when you hear manufacturers prices arent confirmed till the day of series launch.
Manufacturers may end up with lower margins than expected, in addition nvidia seems to dictate what the like of evga can do with gpu.
I remember the days when manufacturers could enhance change GPUs to make them better, now all controlled by nvidia even the power limits.
Shame I bet there is more locked away and the series could be opened up if manufacturers were allowed too, but this will make nvidia own model be less appealing.
The 40 series looks good but look at the chips, my 2080ti is a 102
Now 4080 is rumoured to be 2 models 103 and 104 chips, we are getting lower chips for more money, I'm hoping a 4080ti is released with 102 chip.
The 4080 12gb version appears to have lower bandwidth than my few years old 2080ti, doesnt feel right.
I suspect th nvidia are trying to push prices up of 40 series while keeping mid range 30 series prices inflated while they reduce stocks.
I hope AMD do well next gen and offer something at a more reasonable price
Manufacturers may end up with lower margins than expected, in addition nvidia seems to dictate what the like of evga can do with gpu.
I remember the days when manufacturers could enhance change GPUs to make them better, now all controlled by nvidia even the power limits.
Shame I bet there is more locked away and the series could be opened up if manufacturers were allowed too, but this will make nvidia own model be less appealing.
The 40 series looks good but look at the chips, my 2080ti is a 102
Now 4080 is rumoured to be 2 models 103 and 104 chips, we are getting lower chips for more money, I'm hoping a 4080ti is released with 102 chip.
The 4080 12gb version appears to have lower bandwidth than my few years old 2080ti, doesnt feel right.
I suspect th nvidia are trying to push prices up of 40 series while keeping mid range 30 series prices inflated while they reduce stocks.
I hope AMD do well next gen and offer something at a more reasonable price
That's about it right there.
Especially given that NVidia are in so much trouble financially with their stock having crashed and burned by 56% this year so far.
You really don't know how to use Google?
Sorry 'New World', those bricked RTX 3090's were actually EVGAs fault
EVGA has announced that "poor workmanship" on the cards was responsible
www.nme.com
EVGA explains why some of its RTX 3090s were blowing up in New World
It wasn't the fan controller after all but some flaky soldering.
www.pcgamer.com
EVGA: New World GPU issue Caused By Production Issue | MMORPG.com
Amazon's MMO New World is almost here, and while it has been a bit of a bumpy road, there is one concern that players can now relax about. Back in July, there were reports of bricked graphics cards after spending time in the New World closed beta. An EVGA investigation and found the culprit was...
www.mmorpg.com
All dated after the articles you posted.
Yes, I do. But I shouldn't have to be the one doing it when YOU are the one making the claims.
Notice how I did the work FOR YOU because it was ME that stated the claim? That's how it's supposed to be done. If you're too lazy to support your own statements, stop making them.
That is incorrect.
From your own article:
That is also factually incorrect. From your own article you posted:
It wasn't "amatuers". It was faulty software.
Thanks for you proving yourself wrong. It was entertaining to say the least.