Exobiology - is it me or do planets tend to average towards 20 million (not including first scan bonus)

[Agony_Aunt]

Recently started exobio and i'm seeming to note a trend.

When scanning planets the combined value of all plants, regardless of bio signs, tends towards 20 million.

When i find a planet with a single bio, a lot of times its a higher paying one, close to 20 million. When I find a planet with 5, 6, or 7 bios, they all tend to be lower paying ones, which add up to somewhere close to 20 million.

Since it takes a hell of a lot longer to scan more bios, i'm now avoiding planets with many bios in favour of those with less. It wouldn't be so bad if you only needed to scan each type once, but with many bio signals you end up bypassing plants while you hunt for the next of the current one, then have to go and find the ones you bypassed. A very frustrating mechanic.

Anyone else noticed this? Is it a real thing? Or is just the planets i've been getting are seemingly forming this pattern?

 

[Dragsham]

Your findings have to be incorrect though I'm not sure why your seeing this trend.
I'm currently doing alot of exo in the inner Orion region where stratum seems prevalent.
Yesterday I scanned one system that had 7 7 6 bios in a system of 22 bodies.
Total hand in was 307 million.
Last week I had a 450+ million from a similar system albeit more bios.
So lm guessing it's the species your scanning that are perhaps not paying as much as where I'm at.

Note: the systems I'm working exo in are undiscovered and I map em and dss scan them IF alot of bios are present or indeed high value exploration stuff

 

[Shurimal]

Yesterday I scanned one system that had 7 7 6 bios in a system of 22 bodies.
Total hand in was 307 million.

307 million including or excluding the first discovery bonus? Because if that lump sum includes the bonus, the average non-bonus reward works out as 20.467 millions.

More data needed to draw any conclusion.

 

[Dragsham]

Included!
Perhaps your right. An average of roughly 20 mill per species tagged.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Please note, i'm talking per planet, not per system. Of course with lots of planets then the total amount goes up. And yes, without first discovery 20 million.

 

[DjVortex]

When i find a planet with a single bio, a lot of times its a higher paying one, close to 20 million.

I'm not so sure about that. Usually the single bio signal is bacteria, which is one of the (if not the) least paying genera. (On ice planets it probably tends to be fonticulua, which reward depends highly on the particular species.)

In fact, I can only find two species that pay close to 20 million (without first discovery): Stratum Tectonicas and Fonticulua Segmentatus. Next-best-paying species are 16 mil.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Certainly it's not what I see.
- a lot of planets are bacteria-only, which will get maybe a million before first discovery bonus; a lot more are bacteria+1
- ice worlds with bacteria+fonticula almost certainly won't get as high as 20 million (I'm not sure even with electricae as well it'd get that high)
- on the other side, something like stratum tectonitas can be on a world with 6 other species which will add at least another 10 million between them

I can certainly believe that if you full-survey a lot of rocky worlds and skip over the bacteria-only ones your average payout per world will be around 20 million before bonuses.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I'm not so sure about that. Usually the single bio signal is bacteria, which is one of the (if not the) least paying genera. (On ice planets it probably tends to be fonticulua, which reward depends highly on the particular species.)

In fact, I can only find two species that pay close to 20 million (without first discovery): Stratum Tectonicas and Fonticulua Segmentatus. Next-best-paying species are 16 mil.

Yeah, if its bacterium then best you're getting is 8 million.

I suppose when i say its close to 20 million, i'm going as low as 16ish there. Its one of the higher paying ones.

Maybe i've just been incredibly lucky on the single bio sign planets.

Regardless, moving up, when you start getting 2 or higher, i definitely feel a trend.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Certainly it's not what I see.
- a lot of planets are bacteria-only, which will get maybe a million before first discovery bonus; a lot more are bacteria+1
- ice worlds with bacteria+fonticula almost certainly won't get as high as 20 million (I'm not sure even with electricae as well it'd get that high)
- on the other side, something like stratum tectonitas can be on a world with 6 other species which will add at least another 10 million between them

I can certainly believe that if you full-survey a lot of rocky worlds and skip over the bacteria-only ones your average payout per world will be around 20 million before bonuses.

It has been mainly (almost exclusively) rocky worlds. If its a bacterium only one, i'll still grab it, since its an easy few million.

 

[Northpin]

307 million including or excluding the first discovery bonus? Because if that lump sum includes the bonus, the average non-bonus reward works out as 20.467 millions.

More data needed to draw any conclusion.

Did anything changed lately? IIRC the total value including bonus is (was?) 5x so 300 millions including bonus would have been 60 millions without first discovery

When i did exobio - i havent able to spot any trend.
Yes, there were some hmc with only one stratum worth of 19 millions, but there were also some planets with only 1 bacteria, worth of 1 million

 

[Shurimal]

Might be that the trend towards 20 millions for rocky planets only is simply because the higher value species pays somewhere around 5 to 15 millions and usually you find 1 such species on a planet. Most species pay around 1 to 5 millions and you find anywhere from 1 to many of these, but on average you find 3 or 4 low value species and 1 or 2 higher value ones, which most likely gives you the total value of around 20 millions pre-bonus.

There's no trend per se, it's just statistics.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Might be that the trend towards 20 millions for rocky planets only is simply because the higher value species pays somewhere around 5 to 15 millions and usually you find 1 such species on a planet. Most species pay around 1 to 5 millions and you find anywhere from 1 to many of these, but on average you find 3 or 4 low value species and 1 or 2 higher value ones, which most likely gives you the total value of around 20 millions pre-bonus.

There's no trend per se, it's just statistics.

That makes sense, so there is a trend as it were as long as you stick to rocky planets, but if you just do ice planets, then you'd see a different trend.

 

[Hellrider]

20m without first log bonus? Not for me, and my sample is quite big.
5500 planets
minimal value of ALL planets in biolnsight: 30b creds
max value: 45b
it means, that average (I think that 5500 bodies is good sample) planet with exobiology has minimal value of 5, maximal value of 7,5m, so with first log bonus it means 25/37,5m

Of course using biolsight means, that I count all planets, not only this, which I mapped, so only cherrypicking can come from star filters, because I fss all bodies. Always.

 

[aRJay]

Recently started exobio and i'm seeming to note a trend.

When scanning planets the combined value of all plants, regardless of bio signs, tends towards 20 million.

When i find a planet with a single bio, a lot of times its a higher paying one, close to 20 million. When I find a planet with 5, 6, or 7 bios, they all tend to be lower paying ones, which add up to somewhere close to 20 million.

Since it takes a hell of a lot longer to scan more bios, i'm now avoiding planets with many bios in favour of those with less. It wouldn't be so bad if you only needed to scan each type once, but with many bio signals you end up bypassing plants while you hunt for the next of the current one, then have to go and find the ones you bypassed. A very frustrating mechanic.

Anyone else noticed this? Is it a real thing? Or is just the planets i've been getting are seemingly forming this pattern?

Not real from my experience, most of the single bio planets I can remember recently have been Neon atmosphere which have a chance of one of two potential bios with a value of 1,000,000 without bonus these are all available to anyone who wants the first discovery bonus as I haven’t bothered going anywhere near them. The best planet Ihave seen in the last 2-3 weeks was a 7 bio with a value between 55 and 85 million according to BioInsights I scanned something like 63 million worth, I tend not to bother with ones I have in codex now, before first discovery bonus.

That makes sense, so there is a trend as it were as long as you stick to rocky planets, but if you just do ice planets, then you'd see a different trend.

I think it is also affected by star type and probably regional variations, I am now filtering my bio sampling on have I got it ticked off in codex, what is its base value and how far away is it and for low value ones that aren’t too far away I might not do more than scan for the codex and ignore sampling.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Not real from my experience, most of the single bio planets I can remember recently have been Neon atmosphere which have a chance of one of two potential bios with a value of 1,000,000 without bonus these are all available to anyone who wants the first discovery bonus as I haven’t bothered going anywhere near them. The best planet Ihave seen in the last 2-3 weeks was a 7 bio with a value between 55 and 85 million according to BioInsights I scanned something like 63 million worth, I tend not to bother with ones I have in codex now, before first discovery bonus.


I think it is also affected by star type and probably regional variations, I am now filtering my bio sampling on have I got it ticked off in codex, what is its base value and how far away is it and for low value ones that aren’t too far away I might not do more than scan for the codex and ignore sampling.

I've been mainly hitting Ammonia and Carbon Dioxide atmospheres recently.

Maybe i've just been lucky on the single bio planets so far.

 

[Dragsham]

Mid way through ecologist rank I've switched to saturation method. Park the carrier in a given spot, atm in inner Orion. At a point where none of the systems are discovered.
And l map every system (filtering just where I've visited and not visited) spherically around the carrier. Any given system that has exploration assets are dss scanned. Any system that has bios are completely dss scanned. Call it a quirk of mine. Result is negligible. Most systems l discover are paltry. But some are gems. Net result is alot of income and ranking up in both disciplines. Elite ll in exploration thus far.
I'm not saying what I'm doing is the best way far from it. But it works.
I chose inner Orion because stratum bios and other lucrative bio species are prevalent.
My sphere mapped thus far extends out to about 100ly. I'm just gonner keep going...

Note:
Having a G5 artemis suit with jump assist and NV is a godsend. Along with additional battery power and air capacity.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Mid way through ecologist rank I've switched to saturation method. Park the carrier in a given spot, atm in inner Orion. At a point where none of the systems are discovered.
And l map every system (filtering just where I've visited and not visited) spherically around the carrier. Any given system that has exploration assets are dss scanned. Any system that has bios are completely dss scanned. Call it a quirk of mine. Result is negligible. Most systems l discover are paltry. But some are gems. Net result is alot of income and ranking up in both disciplines. Elite ll in exploration thus far.
I'm not saying what I'm doing is the best way far from it. But it works.
I chose inner Orion because stratum bios and other lucrative bio species are prevalent.
My sphere mapped thus far extends out to about 100ly. I'm just gonner keep going...

Note:
Having a G5 artemis suit with jump assist and NV is a godsend. Along with additional battery power and air capacity.

Hey, i'm doing the same in the same region.

 

[Dragsham]

Perhaps our spheres will one day collide hehehehe

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Just finished another system. 2 planets, each with 4 bios.

37 million for both. Roughly 18.5 million each.

The pattern continues for me.

 

[Hellrider]

Actually, when I think about it...
Talking about "average" exobio value is a little tricky, since like 1/3 of plants are connected with certain galaxy arm, and sometimes they can be quite valuable.