Expansions?

natte hond

natte hond
the value of the expansion pass can only be determent by the success of the game.
and by the hope Frontier is not sold to a Suckermountain.
any promise made then is worthless if the company is sold.
still by buying the pass you increase the change off success.
and as any of u are testers, why not go all the way.
 

Grim.Reaper

Grim.Reaper
Thanks everyone, I am convinced to buy the expansion pass, just seems to make sense. Now I just need to spend a little time debating whether to buy the standard beta + expansion pass or just go with the premiere beta, I guess in the end it is only $25 difference ($125 for sb+ex or $150 for pb), but I get an extra 17 days using it, only a $1 a day:)
 

Shigawire

Shigawire
KickahasTier said:
I'm hoping for a partnership with Bethseda for the extra vehicular ship landing environment. Full on RPG.
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I honestly don't know what Bethesda would have to add to the ship landing environments. These environments won't be hand-built, except for a few logical places such as Earth and some of its cities. I doubt Bethesda has the same level of skill as Frontier has in terms of procedural generation of planets (environments). 99.999% of the environment will only be generated using mathematical and logical rules in the game code.
 

kilvenny

kilvenny
The fact that the expansion pack is being removed at the point when the game becomes cheaper to start playing suggests that it is deemed to be a bargain and in part a thank you to those who invested higher amounts when there was no game to play.

One of the more recent newsletters highlighted the expansions and for the first time indicated that some of them would be broken down into smaller sub units. That suggests a recognition to me that rather than being full game price expansions (20 pounds) they were looking at having something in the mid range as well.

It all comes down to your own gut reaction of how many expansions will be made and how much they will cost. It's my belief that the business plan they are working to includes at least the landing and walking around. Some of the other aspects are only if successful.
 

chaseydog

chaseydog
I'd like to suggest an alternate way of looking at the value of the different backing levels (PB, SB, and SB with expansion pack). Rather than ask which package delivers the most value ask your self how much your willing to invest in the development of the game. Remember at this point FD and CIG are not selling finished games their crowd sourcing the development of those games. I bought the PB as that was the amount I was comfortable with investing in the games development. The expansions will be a nice bonus but the payback for me on my investment is that the games makes it through development. If looked at in terms of how can I get the most content for the least amount you might be better off waiting until the game is released.
 

Grim.Reaper

Grim.Reaper
I don't disagree that providing more investment in the game will help secure its long future....but...we all have realities to deal with. $125 or $150 is not a small amount when purchasing a game.

I have the "bank of the wife" where I need to make sure she is onboard with my large investment in a game:)

I guess though if you look at it for other games that also comes out with expansions and DLC such as Total War Rome 2, if you add them all up including the main game itself, I have probably invested $120 in that one over the life of the game so far.
 

chaseydog

chaseydog
Grim.Reaper said:
I don't disagree that providing more investment in the game will help secure its long future....but...we all have realities to deal with. $125 or $150 is not a small amount when purchasing a game.

I have the "bank of the wife" where I need to make sure she is onboard with my large investment in a game:)

I guess though if you look at it for other games that also comes out with expansions and DLC such as Total War Rome 2, if you add them all up including the main game itself, I have probably invested $120 in that one over the life of the game so far.
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Fair enough. The point of my post was to view the cost of backing ED as an investment rather than a purchase. The intent wasn't to get people to invest more money but invest at the level their comfortable with, or in this case that the wife is also comfortable with. But I am looking at this from the perspective of someone who is passionate about the game. If you need to get spend approval from someone who may not be as passionate about games as you are then the "honey look at all the extra content I get by backing at this level" argument might work. Justifying the purchase by telling her you've already spent $120 on Rome 2 however could potentially backfire. Rather than seeing it as a justification to spend a like amount on ED you might get "you spent how much on Rome 2?" :)

Either way, good point about selling the idea to the significant other.
 

Grim.Reaper

Grim.Reaper
chaseydog said:
Fair enough. The point of my post was to view the cost of backing ED as an investment rather than a purchase. The intent wasn't to get people to invest more money but invest at the level their comfortable with, or in this case that the wife is also comfortable with. But I am looking at this from the perspective of someone who is passionate about the game. If you need to get spend approval from someone who may not be as passionate about games as you are then the "honey look at all the extra content I get by backing at this level" argument might work. Justifying the purchase by telling her you've already spent $120 on Rome 2 however could potentially backfire. Rather than seeing it as a justification to spend a like amount on ED you might get "you spent how much on Rome 2?" :)

Either way, good point about selling the idea to the significant other.
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In the end, it will come down to negotiation where she is allowed to spend equal money on things she wants:) Mutual destruction!
 

Meritz

Meritz
I've also been on the edge whether to buy Premium Beta last few days - mostly due to having the expansion pass bundled in (and of course, getting to splatter myself over a station entrance a few weeks sooner).
The way I figure it, the value of the expansion pass depends not only on the number of expansions and pricing, but also on their frequency. I doubt that we will be getting pricey expansions every few months, so I figured I'd prefer to spread the cost of them over the years to come. I could be wrong, but then again, if I can shell out 16€ monthly on an MMO subscription, I can redirect that money to Elite expansions.

So I went for standard Beta sans expansion pass. That way I do show a little appreciation and support to Frontier for making what is quickly becoming a fantastic game, but I don't have to explain to the wife why I plonked 120€ on a, well, game. :D
 

marillion Col

marillion Col
I too war tempted to buy the Premium Beta but, as the main Beta is starting soon (and the fact the Combat missions are available now) I thought I'd save £15 and just get the Standard Beta plus Expansion pass.

I was a bit unsure about getting the expansion pass, but decided to just go for it.
 

Calebe

C
The way I view it is from the perspective of worst and best case scenarios. Worst case none or only one expansion is released. If only one what would be the cost of it?

To use US dollars the number that float around in the back of my mind is $34.95. This seem likely as landing on moons and all that goes with it is a huge expansion of the game and justifies that price. Landing on planets is even bigger with all those will entail, so same pricing. So if only 1, the expansion pass pays for itself basically and the added benefit of deciding do you have the money for it on release? Is it worth it, or wait and see? The regret why didn't I buy the pass when I could. Of course if none released you regret that as well, but it was money spent in the past, and like a night out, just a memory. The cheapest I envision would be $19.95 for a small expansion.

For some it is how do I convince the wife to spend more money on the game? Buy the lifetime pass and you get a lifetime wife escape clause and as some say the equal expense for her. One time charge far cheaper. Just imagine every 9-12 months telling the wife or girlfriend, there is a new expansion I must have.... Anyway you get the point, one time charge and yes a hope for at least 1 expansion, but 2 or more and it pure profit from then on out.

There is a last possibility, FD at some point may release the game for whatever will be the normal price and include all expansions up to that point free. Lets say 3 expansions, and new people get them all for free. This makes sense as not many will pay $50 for instance and know they need to spend more $100 more to get all the additional content, but come the next expansion they will have to buy it.

Anyway to me it is worth it. The money I spent on it is long gone and forgotten, from here on out if anything new is released, I will have a night out for basically 'free' just saying I bought this expansion and FD is treating me to a night out, on their dime.

Calebe
 

Dinbar

Dinbar
If it helps, at Lavecon the devs stated that they are looking to support this game for at least a decade, if not longer ( subject to interest and sales I guess ).

Its a gamble but as someone who has paid more than £200 so far I'm not going to say anything other than its worth it ;)
 
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