Exploration - already discovered by - worth scanning?

[FillanTroop]

Hello,

I've been trying to find answer for hours but no luck.

Question is: when I do exploration and objects has been already discovered by someone else, is it still worth scanning? I've seen many tables with explanation of how much you get per scanned object but I still confused about that. Example:

When I find Earth like world, I should get about 620k for ADS+DSS.
1) when I check this in system map and see that it has been already discovered, how much I get when I do detailed scan? Found only one thread about it from 2015 and it says you get +50% when you actually also discover it?
2) where can I see if the person who discovered the planet performed Honk, ADS or ADS+DSS?

Thanks in advance for clarification, I am now on the 11k LY passenger mission and would like to scan as much as possible, but need to know if it's worth.

 

[Nagual]

In my opinion, yes scan EL,WW,AW even if they have been discovered. Especially if you have a long range engineer upgrade..

eta: Yes thats correct about the 50% bonus. Don't forget terraformable planets can give large returns too, depends on how close the planets are to you and if you can be bothered, and if they are in the habitable zone of the stars system of course..

 

[13A]

You get the credit for scanning anything whether it's discovered or not. (Apart from asteroid rings which are worth 0 Cr)

The only difference is that you get the 50% bonus if you're the first to hand in the scan.

ETA: You only get your name on if you scan it with ADS or ADS+DSS.

 

[Aura Lorell]

Hello,

I've been trying to find answer for hours but no luck.

Question is: when I do exploration and objects has been already discovered by someone else, is it still worth scanning? I've seen many tables with explanation of how much you get per scanned object but I still confused about that. Example:

When I find Earth like world, I should get about 620k for ADS+DSS.
1) when I check this in system map and see that it has been already discovered, how much I get when I do detailed scan? Found only one thread about it from 2015 and it says you get +50% when you actually also discover it?
2) where can I see if the person who discovered the planet performed Honk, ADS or ADS+DSS?

Thanks in advance for clarification, I am now on the 11k LY passenger mission and would like to scan as much as possible, but need to know if it's worth.

You cannot see what the person who tagged the system used, only that they did a detailed scan (which can be level 2 or level 3 when they use DSS). What you get when selling depends on the type of surface scan (level 2 or level 3) and if the system is untagged you get an extra 50% for first discovery.

Whether you want to scan or not, is up to you. For ELWs, WWs, and terraformable HMCs you still get the full price if you scan with a DSS.

 

[Faded Glory]

Question is: when I do exploration and objects has been already discovered by someone else, is it still worth scanning? I've seen many tables with explanation of how much you get per scanned object but I still confused about that. Example:

When I find Earth like world, I should get about 620k for ADS+DSS.
1) when I check this in system map and see that it has been already discovered, how much I get when I do detailed scan? Found only one thread about it from 2015 and it says you get +50% when you actually also discover it?

For financial gain, then yes it's worth scanning things even if they are already discovered. All you lose out on is the 50% first discovery bonus, so it's probably only worth scanning valuable objects.

Personally when I am exploring, I don't bother to do detailed scans if a system has already been discovered, but that is simply for role-play reasons.

2) where can I see if the person who discovered the planet performed Honk, ADS or ADS+DSS?

Thanks in advance for clarification, I am now on the 11k LY passenger mission and would like to scan as much as possible, but need to know if it's worth.

In order to get first discovered, a player must do a detailed scan of the body. Honking a system does not give first discovered credits, therefore the player must have done a more detailed scan. I always use a DSS when I explore, so I'm not sure whether a detailed (level 2) scan with an ordinary discovery scanner counts towards first discovery credits. I suspect it does, but perhaps someone else will come along and confirm that.

 

[Aura Lorell]

I always use a DSS when I explore, so I'm not sure whether a detailed (level 2) scan with an ordinary discovery scanner counts towards first discovery credits. I suspect it does, but perhaps someone else will come along and confirm that.

Correct, you don't have to use a DSS and that means a level 2 scan, something that also means less credits. But you still get the first discovery tag.

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

In order to get the first discovery bonus the person making the discovery must do either a level 2 or level 3 scan, i.e. just the 'honk' (level 1 scan) will not get them the first discovery. You have no way of knowing whether the first discoverer of any particular body did a level 2 or 3 scan.
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Value is not only measured in credits: if you do a level 3 scan (i.e. with the DSS) then you get more information about a body, which includes the materials present on landable bodies, the type and resource level for planetary rings and also the information that a body is a candidate for terraforming. Depending upon what you are looking for whilst exploring, these things can be vital (especially if you are looking for materials for FSD boosting).
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partly ninja'd!

 

[xondk]

Hello,

I've been trying to find answer for hours but no luck.

Question is: when I do exploration and objects has been already discovered by someone else, is it still worth scanning? I've seen many tables with explanation of how much you get per scanned object but I still confused about that. Example:

When I find Earth like world, I should get about 620k for ADS+DSS.
1) when I check this in system map and see that it has been already discovered, how much I get when I do detailed scan? Found only one thread about it from 2015 and it says you get +50% when you actually also discover it?
2) where can I see if the person who discovered the planet performed Honk, ADS or ADS+DSS?

Thanks in advance for clarification, I am now on the 11k LY passenger mission and would like to scan as much as possible, but need to know if it's worth.

Always, first discovered is a bonus and a tag you get if you are the first person to get to a certain place, but even if you are not, you still get the payout as normal and explorer rank just without the first discovery bonus.

 

[LP Garnell]

Assume the payout #s you mention are based on that (really cool) .jpg chart with icons of all the planet types?

It's a great guide on understanding the relative values. The precise payouts are based on earth-mass of that planet/star/moon, and with terraformable candidates some other factors we're still trying to get a handle on. There is thread discussing this (exploration formula) in this forum section.

If you're looking to maximize credits, include high metal content planets that are terraformables. There are a -lot- more of them than waterworlds/ELWs, and their payouts are close to 2/3 (and more consistent than terra WWs).

 

[Henkka77]

Its all about personal preference. I have been Elite explorer for long, so i dont need to scan anything for money, although money was never my first priority when exploring.
I dont scan anything if already discovered, not even ELW's.

 

[Redfox]

Its all about personal preference. I have been Elite explorer for long, so i dont need to scan anything for money, although money was never my first priority when exploring.

Same here.

If a body is already tagged I'm usually less motivated to travel longer in-system distances. But if it's not too far out I'll still go scan it for 'scientific' reasons, i.e. to have it logged/available in EDDN/EDDB/EDSM, as the 'tagger' might not have done that.

 

[Redfox]

You have no way of knowing whether the first discoverer of any particular body did a level 2 or 3 scan.

If someone *really* wants to know (for reasons beyond me) they could go and check EDDB, as I suppose the amount of information available there would indicate what scan was performed. But as a DSS only costs 250k and I haven't seen a build without one for a *very* long time, the chances of a tagged body having being only Level-2-scanned seem really low.

 

[khaos526]

Another thing is, even if you find an undiscovered ELW for example and scan it. You have no idea until you get back to cash in the data if someone else actually had scanned it right before you and cashed it in before you did. Sometimes you'll go back and then check your ELW and find someone else's name on it and that is why.

So always scan the ELW, WW and Ammonia as was mentioned...

 

[space voyager]

And terraformables at least when obvious. An already tagged terraformable world will nett you more than a non-tagged non-terraformable WW.

But true, when I see that planets are already scanned, I too need a really obvious reward to scan it again, just not the same.

 

[Valije]

The rewards listed in all the charts/guides are calculated without the first discovery bonus. It is up to you to consider if 0.5M for a WW is worth your time or not.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Like others, I don't really care about the credits. I have more than I know what to do with. If I see a tag on it, I don't bother scanning it. Even Earth likes.