I think that when someone buys data for a system the cr should go to the first discovered person .
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Exploration data
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actually not a bad idea.... would give an extra reason to explore, maybe even just a percentage.
you still trolling?
(Part of) we, explorers, have been wondering why we can't buy non-bubble data for discovered systems for ages. So... yeah.
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I agree...short and sweet ^
That would be kind of nifty, but doesn't jive with the lore. When you buy the system data, you're buying it from Universal Cartographics, the company that you also sell exploration data to after you collect it.
Also, I don't think there's any sort of credit given to the person who discovered a particular system, since the systems themselves are already on the map, and you really only get credit for being the first to scan individual bodies inside them. There'd have to be some sort of determination as to who gets credit for discovering a particular system based on how many of the planets they've scanned or something.
Finally, I'm not convinced this would get all that much use. Every single one of my ships, even my Sidewinder, has an advanced discovery scanner. I'd imagine most other players' ships do as well, since it's relatively affordable and saves an awful lot of time and hassle. As a result, I almost never buy system data. Frequently, when I might want it, it's not even available for purchase anyway.
Also, I don't think there's any sort of credit given to the person who discovered a particular system, since the systems themselves are already on the map, and you really only get credit for being the first to scan individual bodies inside them. There'd have to be some sort of determination as to who gets credit for discovering a particular system based on how many of the planets they've scanned or something.
Finally, I'm not convinced this would get all that much use. Every single one of my ships, even my Sidewinder, has an advanced discovery scanner. I'd imagine most other players' ships do as well, since it's relatively affordable and saves an awful lot of time and hassle. As a result, I almost never buy system data. Frequently, when I might want it, it's not even available for purchase anyway.
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a small percentage maybe could. but its so easy to use your own scanner in a system or if its inhabited just scan the nav beacon when you get there.
Kinda does though. How do UC get their cash to pay you. I have 1bil+ credits of exploration data, where did they get that cash from.
I'm assuming this commission will be minor (say 10% of the system cost which is usually 300 to 1000 Cr anyway for the bubble) so it'll only add up if tons of people buy that specific system you explored.
They get the cash, presumably, from the sale of that data to other commanders (NPC or otherwise). When you buy the exploration data for a given system, you're buying it from Universal Cartographics, not the commander who flew there and collected it.
They have a patent on the galmap software that's installed on every ship. Every ship has to pay UC a galmap licensing fee.
But they don't sell that data to other cmdrs. Also from business sense they buy the same data over and over from multiple people so there's no way it's profitable... When was the last time you bought data from UC? I think mine was Autumn 2015....
They have a patent on the galmap software that's installed on every ship. Every ship has to pay UC a galmap licensing fee.
Heh ok, that works for me. Gets paid out of ship costs and rebuy costs...
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Won't work in how the current game works as you can only buy discovery data for systems that are with in 20 ly range from station you are docked at. And all systems inside that 20 ly from any populated system are already discovered by someone. It would basically be free cr for the first commander who arrived at Colonia and scanned systems around it or those who started back in gamma in December 2014. It would literally be free money exploit for few cmdrs and wouldn't bring anything to the game, as no one who play and discover something today never could earn anything from this. I would bet those couple players who managed to get their name on the planets near lhs 3447 would get a lot of free money once ps4 version release just because they played in first day of gamma back in December 2014.
The idea sounds good, bt wouldn't work in game like elite.
The idea sounds good, bt wouldn't work in game like elite.
Sorry, I'd have to agree with Thetele on this one, with this added observation: everywhere within 20 LY of every inhabited system has been explored, long ago. I suspect most of the players who made those early explorations are no longer playing the game. Why should a bunch of dormant accounts be given even more money?
Besides the income streams from the sale of built-in navigational galmaps in every ship, I have long suspected that Universal Cartographics gets most of its money from the sale of permit locks to the superpowers, to assorted planetary governments and to whoever else has that kind of money lying about. Some faction gives UC billions of credits, UC programs in a permit lock on that faction's system and gives the paying superpower/faction the permit unlocking code keys, which they are then free to distribute as they wish. This programming-in of new permits is instantaneous and galaxy-wide; it presumably happens during galaxy map software updates that frequently cause starships across the entire galaxy to come to a grinding halt.
Let's suppose they charge a trillion credits per month to permit-lock a single star. There are, I believe, seventeen entire sectors of stars with permit locks. How much would some shadowy organization have had to pay to UC to lock out all those star systems? This also conveniently explains why the permit locks for systems like Phekda suddenly disappeared: when the Ancients of Mumu took over and booted the anarchists out, the anarchists could no longer afford to pay their permit bill, so UC revoked the permit lock and re-opened the system.
Make no mistake, UC is rolling in money. Paying for the same data within the bubble, over and over again, or paying for system map data from some obscure system on the far side of the galaxy no-one else will ever visit or want to visit, is small change to them.
Besides the income streams from the sale of built-in navigational galmaps in every ship, I have long suspected that Universal Cartographics gets most of its money from the sale of permit locks to the superpowers, to assorted planetary governments and to whoever else has that kind of money lying about. Some faction gives UC billions of credits, UC programs in a permit lock on that faction's system and gives the paying superpower/faction the permit unlocking code keys, which they are then free to distribute as they wish. This programming-in of new permits is instantaneous and galaxy-wide; it presumably happens during galaxy map software updates that frequently cause starships across the entire galaxy to come to a grinding halt.
Let's suppose they charge a trillion credits per month to permit-lock a single star. There are, I believe, seventeen entire sectors of stars with permit locks. How much would some shadowy organization have had to pay to UC to lock out all those star systems? This also conveniently explains why the permit locks for systems like Phekda suddenly disappeared: when the Ancients of Mumu took over and booted the anarchists out, the anarchists could no longer afford to pay their permit bill, so UC revoked the permit lock and re-opened the system.
Make no mistake, UC is rolling in money. Paying for the same data within the bubble, over and over again, or paying for system map data from some obscure system on the far side of the galaxy no-one else will ever visit or want to visit, is small change to them.