Explorer ranks, what are the new totals for the ranks now.

[rrobes]

There are new values for the explorer rank achievements.

Is there a listing for these values?

I've passed the old total to reach Pioneer, but still have 35% to go as shown in the ship info panels.

If my calculations are right, it appears that the new target for Pioneer is 90,000,000+/-. So Elite would be around 180,000,000 total data (based on the assumption that Elite is double of Pioneer).

Anyone have more concrete figures?

Thanks for you responses.

 

[Kenneth McGrew]

There are new values for the explorer rank achievements.

Is there a listing for these values?

I've passed the old total to reach Pioneer, but still have 35% to go as shown in the ship info panels.

If my calculations are right, it appears that the new target for Pioneer is 90,000,000+/-. So Elite would be around 180,000,000 total data (based on the assumption that Elite is double of Pioneer).

Anyone have more concrete figures?

Thanks for you responses.

Depends what you had earnt already prior to 2.3 so it's not a black and white answer I'm afraid

But if you started from scratch from 2.3 you would need 300m I believe

 

[rrobes]

It would be nicer if FD helped in these matters, but they enjoy their "mysteries", don't they?

I was Ranger before 2.3 so that is part of the equation, whatever the equation is.

 

[marx]

The thresholds should be the same, it was just how much progression scan payouts (and, separately, passenger missions) give you that has been changed. For selling exploration data, they now yield half of their payout credit value. This happened during the beta and was mentioned in the changelogs there. Passengers are now around 1/8 or 1/10, if memory serves. For a more detailed explanation, see this post.

 

[rrobes]

Thank you all for your help in understanding the new accounting.

Simpler is not better in this case. I will keep looking for those WW and ELT's to fatten up the pay rate.

 

[Jaiotu]

I started a new game save on one of the alt accounts last week. I should have kept better track of the thresholds I crossed as I ranked up on my way to Colonia. I'm currently sitting at 21 million credits 35.6 million credits from exploration data and at 2% on "Ranger". Best guess is that it requires just shy of three a little over three times as much earning from exploration to advance ranks.

***Edited to reflect the actual figures. I got home and double checked. My memory was faulty.***

 

[LP Garnell]

Just returned from a 12000ly or so round trip, all since 2.3. Was at 25% Pioneer.

Turned in 579 systems worth of data, with about 97% of it new discovery. Total payout, with discovery bonuses, was 198m credits.

Made Elite about halfway through the turn in. Unfortunately, can't nail it down closer than that because promotion notifications usually aren't instantaneous. Believe it was a good bit before the 150m mark tho.

 

[rrobes]

From the replies, extrapolating roughly indicates somewhere between 200 to 300 mil CR total for Elite.

It's a big universe, I'm not bubbling back until Elite, I'll just wear out the 'Conda, that's what it was built to do.

 

[LP Garnell]

From the replies, extrapolating roughly indicates somewhere between 200 to 300 mil CR total for Elite.

It's a big universe, I'm not bubbling back until Elite, I'll just wear out the 'Conda, that's what it was built to do.

Recognize there is a difference between points for rank and earned credits that get you those points. Doing passenger missions gets you exploration rank points, but the credit to point ratio for such missions is higher (worse) than survey info cashed in with cartographic. Believe the total points are the same, they just jacked up the credit to rank points ratio.

If you mean 200-300 million survey-earned credits to get you from 0% Pioneer to Elite, believe that is a tad high. My gut feel is in the 150 to 175 range.

 

[MattG]

When I last looked at this getting elite from scratch would require between 300m and 360m, and there is good reason to believe it is 320m. That would mean it's be approx 200m to get from Pioneer to Elite, or ~2m per 1%.

 

[marx]

Getting from 0% Aimless to Elite used to be around ~156 million, and from 0% Pioneer to Elite was 100 million. Note that then, rank progression and credits were tied 1:1. Let's call rank progression "exp" (exploration points). You sold 1 million Cr of data, you got 1 million exp. However, if you completed a passenger mission with a 1 million Cr reward (and they would often go much higher), you also got 1 million exp. This was before 2.3.

After 2.3, starting with the beta, FD have changed the scan profit:exp ratio to 2:1, and the passenger missions to... well, I can't find the exact number, but if memory serves, it was around 8:1? So if you sold 8 million credits of scans, you'd get 4 million exp of rank progression, but if you completed a passenger mission giving you 8 million Cr, you'd get 1 million exp of rank progression. As far as we can tell, the rank thresholds remained the same, it's just that the different methods get you differing amounts of rank progression now. It's no longer a 1:1 ratio between credit rewards and rank progression.
If you sold 320 million credits of data, you would be Elite, but if you completed passenger missions for 320 million Cr in total, you wouldn't be.

So if you stop to scan valuable planets, with the large payout increase you'll get to Elite much faster than before. But if you tried to powerlevel your rank by doing passenger missions, that would (thankfully!) take much longer now.

 

[LP Garnell]

Getting from 0% Aimless to Elite used to be around ~156 million, and from 0% Pioneer to Elite was 100 million. Note that then, rank progression and credits were tied 1:1. Let's call rank progression "exp" (exploration points). You sold 1 million Cr of data, you got 1 million exp. However, if you completed a passenger mission with a 1 million Cr reward (and they would often go much higher), you also got 1 million exp. This was before 2.3.

After 2.3, starting with the beta, FD have changed the scan profit:exp ratio to 2:1, and the passenger missions to... well, I can't find the exact number, but if memory serves, it was around 8:1? So if you sold 8 million credits of scans, you'd get 4 million exp of rank progression, but if you completed a passenger mission giving you 8 million Cr, you'd get 1 million exp of rank progression. As far as we can tell, the rank thresholds remained the same, it's just that the different methods get you differing amounts of rank progression now. It's no longer a 1:1 ratio between credit rewards and rank progression.
If you sold 320 million credits of data, you would be Elite, but if you completed passenger missions for 320 million Cr in total, you wouldn't be.

That's what I was attemping to say, but you did such a better job of it

Went back today and opened up the Ledger that is embedded in EDDiscovery. Looked at the chunks of credits for each block of 50 systems-data sold (13/14 May). Was taking my time because I was fat fingering sell data into a spreadsheet.

Edited to revise: Looks like the survey credits to exploration points are just a hair below 2:1. So close tho that you might as well use that (1.98 or so).

I highly recommend EDDiscovery for those who haven't tried it. You can even access your entire history to date without running ED.