Explorers United Movement?

[marx]

Allitnil has a good point, and let's not forget that the ones who are more likely to use EDSM (or any program that uses it) are explorers anyway. I strongly doubt that the majority of the player base would be explorers, either part- or full-time.

As for the OP: thanks, but no thanks. Stirring up the pot? I don't think that would accomplish much, save for antagonising some people (not to mention reactions like "omg why are u explorers cryin when crime system is , PP is borken, combat logging etc") and frankly, I don't think you could get enough people on-board to actually disrupt things. I think you underestimate the activity required to do that to major hubs, and elsewhere, nobody would notice. More importantly, attacking other people's interests isn't productive when you want something from FD.

Also, I could echo pretty much everything that newman said in his post above.

Finally, I would wait until the 2.3 beta at least so we can see what changes and new things the update would bring for explorers. If barely any, then the complaining might start. But if it'll actually have a good number of related stuff, then complaining beforehand wouldn't look too good.

 

[Lucius-Darcia]

Hello everyone! In light of all of the outcry on the General Discussion for Exploration Mechanics. Who here thinks we should kick it up a notch over the next few months (read from now until August) to really drive home our message in a clear, unified voice? We wont get anywhere by everyone shouting at once, but we will get somewhere when we start all shouting the same thing. For Instance, Id like to start with protesting the little reward we do actually get. This is something I feel FDev could fix in a patch update and wouldnt need to be something majorly hard to change. We get paid so little for the amount of danger we face, in a very unforgiving galaxy.

My idea I had was to start stirring the pot up in game as well. Get noticed by GalNet, maybe even somehow disrupt a major hub where most players conjergate. IE- Going to Sol and supporting a nameless non-federation faction for a hostile take over, or some other system that CMDRs would definitely notice.

TL;DR lets start organizing into a unified voice instead of us all just having to have our own banners to wave. I propose we start with the credit price for selling exploration data and continue on from there!

Whose ready to unite with me??

Going full war for exploration? I know how this would end:

Explorers
Give us more stuff!!!! *pewpew*

FDevs
Hey look at this! Explorers can fight! Let us give them some Thargoids than. They will hyperdict them during their exploring trips and kill them. Let's make them OP just to be sure, everyone looses his 2-3 months of data. This will bother them some time until they realise, they can not win.

 

[Iron Orchid]

Approaching 90% of EDSM users are currently in or very close to the Bubble. Obviously some of those close to the Bubble are exploring and it would be good to be able to filter the map for those who are still active, but I suspect that a lot of those who describe themselves as "explorers" spend more time doing other activities.

http://i.imgur.com/lwiOF8a.jpg

I've been in the bubble for a bit (apart from the brief excursion to Cancri cluster) mucking about with the ruins/ puzzle / debacle / search (and doing a bit of engineering) but I expect to be headed off into the black shortly. If you have limited time to play the engineers can soak up a lot of time (as can the ruins). I've done no trading, a bit of mining (for engineers) but I would describe myself as an Explorer but I haven't been a lot more than 3000ly from Sol for months.

 

[Jon474]

The Galaxy does not care if you protest. It will not care if you withdraw your support for exploration. The Galaxy just "is"! In RL as in Elite.

Calm yourselves. Things are not perfect, we know. Things are not even fantastically great yet...but this kind of talk is daft. For me...just so you know that this is a personal opinion...there is enough in this Galaxy to keep me going, to maintain the faith. For a good while yet.

Get out there.

Enjoy the view. It is wonderful.

Flying happy
Jon "Cold" Tallinn
Explorer (in a Type-6 (in case I hadn't mentioned it lately))

 

[Cmdr Frawd Digger]

I've been in the bubble for a bit (apart from the brief excursion to Cancri cluster) mucking about with the ruins/ puzzle / debacle / search (and doing a bit of engineering) but I expect to be headed off into the black shortly. If you have limited time to play the engineers can soak up a lot of time (as can the ruins). I've done no trading, a bit of mining (for engineers) but I would describe myself as an Explorer but I haven't been a lot more than 3000ly from Sol for months.

Pretty-much describes what I have been doing...

Only in the past couple of weeks have I been out exploring again (after DWE) and I am only 1500-2000LY from SOL

Frawd

 

[Hanekura Shizuka]

An thats fine. Theres a question mark on there to see if we all want to stop complaining and ask FDev, who makes better games than any of us, to just look at the things we find unfun or broken to fix them. Stop with the "Suggestions and ideas" Because a lot of them most people cant even agree on.

A coherent movement - a movement that wishes to be taken seriously - lists its grievances, and lists its suggestions and ideas to fix it. I think, if you wish to be treated seriously, it might be a good idea to begin compiling that list of grievances, and that list of suggestions and ideas. Revising and updating that list over time is fine; take suggestions and make changes as needed. But I think listing your concerns, as well as listing possible solutions, is necessary in this case.

 

[Kenneth McGrew]

Hello everyone! In light of all of the outcry on the General Discussion for Exploration Mechanics. Who here thinks we should kick it up a notch over the next few months (read from now until August) to really drive home our message in a clear, unified voice? We wont get anywhere by everyone shouting at once, but we will get somewhere when we start all shouting the same thing. For Instance, Id like to start with protesting the little reward we do actually get. This is something I feel FDev could fix in a patch update and wouldnt need to be something majorly hard to change. We get paid so little for the amount of danger we face, in a very unforgiving galaxy.

My idea I had was to start stirring the pot up in game as well. Get noticed by GalNet, maybe even somehow disrupt a major hub where most players conjergate. IE- Going to Sol and supporting a nameless non-federation faction for a hostile take over, or some other system that CMDRs would definitely notice.

TL;DR lets start organizing into a unified voice instead of us all just having to have our own banners to wave. I propose we start with the credit price for selling exploration data and continue on from there!

Whose ready to unite with me??

I personally think the message is wrong

Do we really care about the rewards we get for exploration? I certainly don't do it for the credits yet I have been paid in excess of 300m for my efforts, there are explorers with over a billion in exploration credits.

and a hostile take over.. no thanks

FD have given us some good exploration stuff, SRV's / Synthesis / Neutrons / FSD engineering mods / tourist locations

were also getting an awesome camera mode, internal ship views, and control your ship while in the camera mode

and I am sure there will be more to come and we will get some exploration slots on certain ships or something or other soon* (not to mention legs, atmospheres and other things coming soon*) while you're waiting... go explore

oh and yeah what frawd said herd away please