General / Off-Topic Facebook is a scummy company

Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
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Don't put too much stock in Zuckerberg's assurances about FB taking hate speech and fake news seriously. They are doing the minimum required, and flaunt the rules where they aren't worried about getting sued.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...-denial-laws-except-where-it-fears-being-sued
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The Guardian has been doing yeoman coverage of the slithering evil in cyberspace. Cadwalladr did a piece on Cambridge Analytica when it was in precursor form, doing its dark deeds here in Trinidad, before Mercer took it over.
The bot network and response generator used on social media were designed and tested out on my little island before they became the tools of mass disinformation deployed in the battle of Brexit. And later, to elect Trump.

Mercer's lawyers have threatened to muzzle the Guardian by lawsuit.



https://www.theguardian.com/technol...nalytica-leave-eu-referendum-brexit-campaigns
 
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Minonian

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Minonian
What i'm not getting it, why they don't shut down this things just like e-mail spam nets? They are a problem big enough, and just as dangerous.

Besides if this is true, and i think it is? than the picture starts to come together nicely right? Let's see what the ongoing investigation against Trumph and russian involvement going to reveal but personally, I think it's true.
 
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verminstar

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verminstar
Fakebooks not bad as a dating contact site...had a number of hits there mostly from the married and terminally bored types who wanna tell ye all their problems.

The topic itself is a grey area fer me personally as a number of us use it to stay in contact and make arrangements. I say a number of us...its a group of trusted 'guerrilla gardeners' who share information on police activity as what grows is illegal in the UK. Purely for medicinal reasons, members have to prove they have a genuine condition or illness to even get permission to see it. Those in dire need have no other means at contacting someone who can help them out...its not exactly something ye can put in the classified section in the weekly telegraph and the law is very harsh on this sorta thing.

Fakebook is convenient because its flawed...thats why its useful. Take that away and an alternative would have to be found ^
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Holocaust denial should be legal in the first place. Its ridiculous that there are a set number of ideas I may not express, whereas other equally ideas are actively encouraged and subsidized.
 

krysohmyz

K
sleutelbos said:
Holocaust denial should be legal in the first place. Its ridiculous that there are a set number of ideas I may not express, whereas other equally ideas are actively encouraged and subsidized.
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It all ties up back to the P.C. bull that is all around us.
It used to be a common habit that if someone said something you don't agree with, you had a discussion and the best argument won. Nowadays you can simply get offended and sue them. Wonderful isn't it? No thinking required. No communication, either. Just a big red button "I don't like it, take it away" :)
 

CMDR CODY

CMDR CODY
FB is just one of many commie companies trying to run the world.

I met many Jewish folks with tattoos on their arms, I believed them.

Social media is not a good thing, just a shepard for the sheeple
 

Adept

Adept
sleutelbos said:
Holocaust denial should be legal in the first place. Its ridiculous that there are a set number of ideas I may not express, whereas other equally ideas are actively encouraged and subsidized.
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I hope you read the whole article. My point was not about "holocaust denial", even though it's a good litmus test for neo-N-word idiots.
 

Adept

Adept
CMDR CODY said:
FB is just one of many commie companies trying to run the world.
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ROFL. :D if anything FB is extremely mercenary in it's capitalism. You think it's "commie" is utterly hilarious.

Also you clearly didn't read the article. Try reading before you comment, you'll seem smarter.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Adept said:
I hope you read the whole article. My point was not about "holocaust denial", even though it's a good litmus test for neo-N-word idiots.
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I did, and I dont agree with it. IMHO the internet should be be as open a place as can be for expression and exchange of ideas, including ideas you personally may strongly oppose. FB should in my opinion do as little as possible when it comes to censorship, and that is what they are doing. They provide a communication platform, they are not a gatekeeper for 'approved information'.
 

Adept

Adept
sleutelbos said:
I did, and I dont agree with it. IMHO the internet should be be as open a place as can be for expression and exchange of ideas, including ideas you personally may strongly oppose. FB should in my opinion do as little as possible when it comes to censorship, and that is what they are doing. They provide a communication platform, they are not a gatekeeper for 'approved information'.
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I disagree. The spread of racism and other toxic memes is the result, as is misleading propaganda and hybrid warfare. Facebook has in effect become a news platform, and those need to be held to a standard of honesty.
 

Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
sleutelbos said:
I did, and I dont agree with it. IMHO the internet should be be as open a place as can be for expression and exchange of ideas, including ideas you personally may strongly oppose. FB should in my opinion do as little as possible when it comes to censorship, and that is what they are doing. They provide a communication platform, they are not a gatekeeper for 'approved information'.
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I'm opposed to censorship too.

However, the assumption that users of this tech are all honest people exchanging views is just false.
There are malicious and well funded entities using massive resources to destroy the very free speech you are seeking to uphold. Among other, more sinister objectives.

This is a new thing in human history. A new mechanic of totalitarianism. Instead of brutalizing the physically weak, it brutalizes the credulous. People who cannot defend against it, biologically. They are being subjected to "opinion" and "facts" which do not even have a human origin. Many of the sources are AI bots.

It is more pernicious than religions. It is extremely toxic to vulnerable brains. Left unchecked, it will override human reason in society, and destroy that society.

And these attacks are directed against us at a time when the ecological balance is endangered. On the cusp of the 6th Great Extinction. Make no mistake, the stakes are high.
 
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Pyrotiger

Pyrotiger
Robin of Spiritwood said:
See what I'm talking about?
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Not really. Now the means may be new. But fundamentally what you are saying is nothing new. People seeking to control people. So it's done through misinformation rather than a feudal system or whatnot.

However, it's a matter of debate on who has the 'vulnerable brains' and who actually believes they do not. Same old 'the sky is falling in' rubbish. There's never been a golden age. We're all going to die someday. What's so special about a species who destroys its own planet for little purpose?

And where is this magical society you talk about?

An awful lot of your post was vague. At least you didn't name the Lizard men...
 
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xondk

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Adept said:
Don't put too much stock in Zuckerberg's assurances about FB taking hate speech and fake news seriously. They are doing the minimum required, and flaunt the rules where they aren't worried about getting sued.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...-denial-laws-except-where-it-fears-being-sued
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This really isn't anything new though, unfortunately.

Plenty of companies do similar actions, take the "We most definitely do not store your pictures for a length of time" snapchat even before it was acquired.
If facebook as a company doesn't care what people do on their platform as long as they are providing clicks or whatever measurement advertisers use to pay facebook.
 
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