Facebook loses $500m Oculus virtual reality case
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zenimax lost the part of the case stating oculus stole code!
the fine was for breaking NDAs around the time they were demoing doom 3 running in VR. Oculus themselves only got about half of the fine, the other half was aimed squarely at carmack and palmer lucky.
IF oculus had been found guilty of stealing code, they were facing a far higher (disastrous?) fine of up to $4billion.
according to one of the guys working on getting doom 3 bfg working in VR on the rift he states the zenimax code IS actually in the doom 3 source, and his view is the code is rubbish at best, and is nothing like what is actually natively in the rift now.
the fine was for breaking NDAs around the time they were demoing doom 3 running in VR. Oculus themselves only got about half of the fine, the other half was aimed squarely at carmack and palmer lucky.
IF oculus had been found guilty of stealing code, they were facing a far higher (disastrous?) fine of up to $4billion.
according to one of the guys working on getting doom 3 bfg working in VR on the rift he states the zenimax code IS actually in the doom 3 source, and his view is the code is rubbish at best, and is nothing like what is actually natively in the rift now.
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The most entertaining part is where some Facebook rep went Full Sandler and called the 500M$ effectively pocket change effectively denying the deterrent effect of the penalty, upon which the whole thing is now apparently threatening to go to round two for the full multi-Milliard sum 
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Hah, definitely Carmack's code is somewhere in there Actually his code is everywhere. He's god almighty.
Actually his code is everywhere. He's god almighty.Actually, no, they didn't. Oculus claims this, but this seems to be untrue. What the jury found was that code in the Oculus software was definitely copied from Zenimax. However, they found that Zenimax failed to prove that this code constituted 'trade secrets' that were stolen from them. So, unless John Carmack, Palmer Luckey and/or some other Oculus developer or developers, by sheer coincidence, managed to create the exact same code, the code was stolen, it's just Zenimax failed to prove to the jury that this code legally qualified as 'trade secrets'.
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Obviously i have not seen the code but that is not what the guy working on doom3 vr reckons. (The old code is still in there) but he claims it is so poor that it is unusabke and bears no similarity to what is in the rift ..... Shrugs..... Not that i care either way i just want good VR and does anyone really think we would have that now if not for palmer lucky back in 2012?
As a FOVE owner, I can recommend you look at the Vive instead. I'm with you on the Facebook / Oculus buy out and Kickstarted FOVE as an alternative, but it isn't as good build quality as the FOVE and its had teething issues so far. They are working on it, but as of today given a FOVE - Vive choice, I'd have to go with Vive.
I've never tried a Rift, but hear it is excellent for E: D. Any injunction will hurt, but if you have a Rift working on E: D today it should continue to work.
