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Fall update, and locked to 60fps in VR, resulting in lots of visual weirdness. +with probable fix
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i had the fall update install today, updated nvidia drivers yesterday. now i have two higher res options in resolution 2000 x something and 3000 x something (despite my screen only going up to 1920 x 1080), the graphics look super low res and weirdly blocky at 1920 x 1080, and when i look down at my body it judders as if i had supersampling cranked right up.
i switched off the game record / related options in the windows settings, but it doesn't seem to have helped much.
i switched off the game record / related options in the windows settings, but it doesn't seem to have helped much.
Just come back from a week in Turkey (Deserved late summer break 
) and just before i left i got hit with the M$ Fall Update which altered a lot of things on my PC. Having thought i'd sorted them out, went into game this evening for the first time since Holiday, i find i have terrible Stuttering whilst in Game. My settings have not changed, and even getting stuttering in Oculus Home.
Can someone advise or point me to a fix. Done the usual bits like switch off DVR, Nvidia Streaming thing, updated to latest 388.31 Nvidia drivers, but although it has mostly stopped i still get bouts of bad stuttering at random times, in stations, in Space even though the FPS is showing 90=FPS and in Green.
Tried lowering my VR settings to LOW and still stutters? as mentioned it can't be my game settings as i have stuttering in Oculus home?
Any Suggestions Please?
Thanks
) and just before i left i got hit with the M$ Fall Update which altered a lot of things on my PC. Having thought i'd sorted them out, went into game this evening for the first time since Holiday, i find i have terrible Stuttering whilst in Game. My settings have not changed, and even getting stuttering in Oculus Home.Can someone advise or point me to a fix. Done the usual bits like switch off DVR, Nvidia Streaming thing, updated to latest 388.31 Nvidia drivers, but although it has mostly stopped i still get bouts of bad stuttering at random times, in stations, in Space even though the FPS is showing 90=FPS and in Green.
Tried lowering my VR settings to LOW and still stutters? as mentioned it can't be my game settings as i have stuttering in Oculus home?
Any Suggestions Please?
Thanks
Just come back from a week in Turkey (Deserved late summer break
Can someone advise or point me to a fix. Done the usual bits like switch off DVR, Nvidia Streaming thing, updated to latest 388.31 Nvidia drivers, but although it has mostly stopped i still get bouts of bad stuttering at random times, in stations, in Space even though the FPS is showing 90=FPS and in Green.
Tried lowering my VR settings to LOW and still stutters? as mentioned it can't be my game settings as i have stuttering in Oculus home?
Any Suggestions Please?
Thanks
One of the first things I tried for my posted issue was to also re-install and re-download the entire game, and this helped a bit before I found the DVR\game bar issue.
Usually I could play for a few minutes before that kicked in.
It is also not unheard of that windows goes 'weird' after a feature update like this and could use a fresh install, I know it sucks trucknuts but it is more and more looking like the only real longterm solution.
Just playing in VR for the first time in a couple weeks and noticed tracking seems totally F'ed. Haven't changed anything on my PC setup, and it used to be fine. Oculus home seems perfectly smooth. Tried turning down settings in ED, didn't help. Also, making the changes recommended by OP here doesn't seem to help. Something is wrong though for sure. Even with quality turned down and locked at 90fps, tracking is super glitchy.
Edit - forgot I hadn't updated my NVIDIA drivers yet. Did that and rebooted, it does seem smoother now, not 100% stutter free, but overall not so bad as to be immersion breaking like it was when I first fired it up.
Edit - forgot I hadn't updated my NVIDIA drivers yet. Did that and rebooted, it does seem smoother now, not 100% stutter free, but overall not so bad as to be immersion breaking like it was when I first fired it up.
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Just come back from a week in Turkey (Deserved late summer break
Can someone advise or point me to a fix. Done the usual bits like switch off DVR, Nvidia Streaming thing, updated to latest 388.31 Nvidia drivers, but although it has mostly stopped i still get bouts of bad stuttering at random times, in stations, in Space even though the FPS is showing 90=FPS and in Green.
Tried lowering my VR settings to LOW and still stutters? as mentioned it can't be my game settings as i have stuttering in Oculus home?
Any Suggestions Please?
Thanks
So Ok here is my fix for this, not so much a fix but a workaround I suppose. It totally worked for me. Thanks TorTorden for giving me the idea.
No, not a full Win 10 Re-install, but i found that i could roll back the Fall update from 1709 to 1703 and along with a Nvidia driver roll back this Totally cured all stutter and all FPS drop, now i am back at 90Fps with a few drops to 45 mainly in busy Stations like Shinrarta Dezhra Jameson Memorial, whereas before i was lucky to get 40FPS and often dipping down to a horrible 22Fps
.So i am now back on win 10 ver 1703 and the Nvidia driver before the dreaded 388.13. Windows did a mini update after going back to 1703 and this brought in the Nvidia .13 driver that is useless, so rolled back that driver.
Everything working as nice and smooth as a smooth thing!
Now i just have to learn how to keep the Fall update (1709) from being downloaded again...Suggestions?
Thanks and Roll Back!!
This is not good news!
I have just bought a new VR ready machine and am getting OCRift today.
Fully uptodate drivers and windows 10.
No roll backs on my machine!
I have just bought a new VR ready machine and am getting OCRift today.
Fully uptodate drivers and windows 10.
No roll backs on my machine!
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I'm fully updated 1709 and on latest Nvidia drivers.
performance is smooth as ever once I turn off the game bar functions.
Roll backs in my experience breaks twice as often as updating does.
Current setup was a fresh install.
Used the Microsoft media creation tool to make a USB boot drive for installation.
This grabs an updated ISO so the windows that becomes installed will have most updates already applied.
No more installing fresh only to have windows update download six thousand updates and even on occasion break itself as windows update tends to do.
This tendency of windows update recently reinforce my habit of keeping multiple drives.
One for os and installed software, documents and files etc on a seperate drive.
When needed I can just format the c: drive, move the locations for the usual library folders when install is finished an basically be up and running again inside of an hour.
performance is smooth as ever once I turn off the game bar functions.
Roll backs in my experience breaks twice as often as updating does.
Current setup was a fresh install.
Used the Microsoft media creation tool to make a USB boot drive for installation.
This grabs an updated ISO so the windows that becomes installed will have most updates already applied.
No more installing fresh only to have windows update download six thousand updates and even on occasion break itself as windows update tends to do.
This tendency of windows update recently reinforce my habit of keeping multiple drives.
One for os and installed software, documents and files etc on a seperate drive.
When needed I can just format the c: drive, move the locations for the usual library folders when install is finished an basically be up and running again inside of an hour.
GunnerBill, you should be fine on a new install as TorTorden has said, it's the update to the upgrade to the update that has replaced the upgrade that breaks PC's My install is from the very beginning of win 10 when it first came out.
Just get that rift and get it rigged up for an unbelievable experience. I was getting dropped FPS and stuttering in normal monitor usage but when i put the VR on it was a 1000 times worse with FPS dropping to a stuttering shuddering 23/24 FPS.
My roll back cured all, now learning fast on how to stop the dreaded 1709 from coming back to my PC.
Don't worry you won't miss out on all this excitement and bout of Microsoft cursing as when the bring out their spring Upgrade and force it on you, you can then join in the fun and games and curse the thing that is Microsoft!
Yes, this is something I've been doing for a while. 500 gb SSD, 3 TB SATA.
GunnerBill, you should be fine on a new install as TorTorden has said, it's the update to the upgrade to the update that has replaced the upgrade that breaks PC's My install is from the very beginning of win 10 when it first came out.
Just get that rift and get it rigged up for an unbelievable experience. I was getting dropped FPS and stuttering in normal monitor usage but when i put the VR on it was a 1000 times worse with FPS dropping to a stuttering shuddering 23/24 FPS.
My roll back cured all, now learning fast on how to stop the dreaded 1709 from coming back to my PC.
Don't worry you won't miss out on all this excitement and bout of Microsoft cursing as when the bring out their spring Upgrade and force it on you, you can then join in the fun and games and curse the thing that is Microsoft!
Copy that, unboxing now...
Yes, this is something I've been doing for a while. 500 gb SSD, 3 TB SATA.
Copy that, unboxing now...
EXCITING.......Let me know online what you think, if you can type with the headset on, you know i can't
Been doing it myself since back to windows 95.
Some habits tend to die hard and others just get reaffirmed
At first just a regular disk then on a sub partition on a striped RAID.
Now 250gb M.2 for OS, 500gb SSD for some other stuff like some cherry picked game libraries and a 3tb drive for large volume archive
Got to say though. that m.2 drive is pretty quick.
Longest section on my post now is the three second delay I artificially set in BIOS so I can actually get into it if I need to.
Some habits tend to die hard and others just get reaffirmed
At first just a regular disk then on a sub partition on a striped RAID.
Now 250gb M.2 for OS, 500gb SSD for some other stuff like some cherry picked game libraries and a 3tb drive for large volume archive
Got to say though. that m.2 drive is pretty quick.
Longest section on my post now is the three second delay I artificially set in BIOS so I can actually get into it if I need to.
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Been doing it myself since back to windows 95.
Some habits tend to die hard and others just get reaffirmed
At first just a regular disk then on a sub partition on a striped RAID.
Now 250gb M.2 for OS, 500gb SSD for some other stuff like some cherry picked game libraries and a 3tb drive for large volume archive
Got to say though. that m.2 drive is pretty quick.
Longest section on my post now is the three second delay I artificially set in BIOS so I can actually get into it if I need to.
LOL - i'm using a multi-drive setup as well .
1 x 256GB SSD for windows
4 x 512GB SSD in a hardware RAID stripe on my ASRock Mobo for data
I'm not looking forward to the day I need to re-install windows on this though ..
I foolishly allowed Windows to update to 1709. Before, I was playing ED on rift with VR High settings, SS at 1.25 and HMD at 1.5 with no problems so long as the gaming bar features in Windows were turned off. Now with 1709 and Nvidia 388.31, I get lots of tracking stuttering and RPS rarely locks at 90 regardless of ED settings. I have tried rolling back Nvidia to 388.13 and 388.00 with no results. I cant roll back to Windows 1703 because I deleted old versions of Windows due my small SSD filling up. (dumb of me) I don't have any problems with any of the other VR games in the oculus library. So far I have tried the suggestions in this thread with no luck.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled ED, Oculus, and Nvidia drivers. A clean install of Windows is next, I guess, but what a pain.
Any thoughts?
Windows 10 1709
i5 7600K 3.8
16 gb RAM
GTX1080
Nvidia 388.31
I've uninstalled and reinstalled ED, Oculus, and Nvidia drivers. A clean install of Windows is next, I guess, but what a pain.
Any thoughts?
Windows 10 1709
i5 7600K 3.8
16 gb RAM
GTX1080
Nvidia 388.31
No real thoughts apart from what you already suspect, re-install windows.
In my limited experience it seems to me windows update tends to cause a lot of problems, if you can bypass that then it windows seem to work ok enough.
And that's nothing new, windows update has been destroying fresh installs on me since before windows XP.
When I setup my new machine I figured 1709 was a given, so I used the media creators tool to make a fresh image USB drive that way there is usually just a week or two of updates to find.
And it's seems quite stable in ED now for me after disabling the game bar functions and primarily the DVR function.
Also and more frustratingly it seems none of the old registry tweaks for stopping or controlling options for windows update works anymore, although this is noticed from before 1709 hit.
If you apply them, they just simply doesn't do anything.
In my limited experience it seems to me windows update tends to cause a lot of problems, if you can bypass that then it windows seem to work ok enough.
And that's nothing new, windows update has been destroying fresh installs on me since before windows XP.
When I setup my new machine I figured 1709 was a given, so I used the media creators tool to make a fresh image USB drive that way there is usually just a week or two of updates to find.
And it's seems quite stable in ED now for me after disabling the game bar functions and primarily the DVR function.
Also and more frustratingly it seems none of the old registry tweaks for stopping or controlling options for windows update works anymore, although this is noticed from before 1709 hit.
If you apply them, they just simply doesn't do anything.