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I just read you are adding a tribute to Carrie Fisher in a future update, no I am not complaining. I actually welcome this and think its a lovely thing to do.

HOWEVER

I don't understand how/why you still refuse to add a tribute to the legendary David Bowie in game, if anyone deserves a tribute it is he.

PLEASE reconsider this.
Thank you for reading
 
not everyone is gonna get a tribute, if every celeb that died last year got one, Fdevs would be giving more tributes than they do patches.. so no thanks..
 
David Bowie, as much as he's done for rock music he's not a Sci-Fi icon AFAIK.

Yes I know Ziggy Stardust but that's music, Star Wars is about as Sci-Fi as you can get and ED is a Sci-Fi game.

IMO.
 
David Bowie, as much as he's done for rock music he's not a Sci-Fi icon AFAIK.

Yes I know Ziggy Stardust but that's music, Star Wars is about as Sci-Fi as you can get and ED is a Sci-Fi game.

IMO.

Space Oddity, Life of Mars etc? hell, even had one of his songs actually sung in space!
Carrie is worthy of a tribute but so is Bowie. C'mon Frontier it won't kill you to do something.
 
Is there already a station called Bowie Station (or Hub or anything)? Or something else that could be associated with him?

If there is, then a better solution might be to have a CG in tribute than creating a new station/outpost with their name.

Going forward, I was just thinking that we shouldn't always have new stations made as a tribute if something appropriately named already exists, but there still should be options.
 
I hate to be the hater in this sort of situation, and I'm a huge Star Wars fan and Bowie fan (and Nimoy Fan) but I don't think we should demand FD add in some sort of tribute every time someone dies. There are a lot of references around the Verse already to various things.

I do understand the urge, absolutely, but I want Frontier to be a testament to the living and what we achieve together, not an over-extended graveyard (no Open jokes please).
 
I hate to be the hater in this sort of situation, and I'm a huge Star Wars fan and Bowie fan (and Nimoy Fan) but I don't think we should demand FD add in some sort of tribute every time someone dies. There are a lot of references around the Verse already to various things.

I do understand the urge, absolutely, but I want Frontier to be a testament to the living and what we achieve together, not an over-extended graveyard (no Open jokes please).

Overall I fully agree, that's why I was suggesting there were other ways (such as CGs based at a station with a matching name if applicable).
 
Overall I fully agree, that's why I was suggesting there were other ways (such as CGs based at a station with a matching name if applicable).

Yeah, it's not even something I'm entirely comfortable discussing or an opinion I'm keen to 'put out there'. I understand grief and different ways of handling. I'd just... prefer it wasn't brought over 'here'. ED is an escape, you know?
 
I just read you are adding a tribute to Carrie Fisher in a future update, no I am not complaining. I actually welcome this and think its a lovely thing to do.

HOWEVER

I don't understand how/why you still refuse to add a tribute to the legendary David Bowie in game, if anyone deserves a tribute it is he.

PLEASE reconsider this.
Thank you for reading

It is really quite simple, in order to avoid getting absolutely flooded with requests for various persons favourite celebrity and or known person, only people significant within fields pertaining to Elite are added?
This means within the realm of science/science fiction/space/astronomy e.t.c.

Its not that Bowie isn't important, but more that there needs to be some sort of criteria or else we'd be adding people near daily, and remember, it isn't only American's that should be added.
 
Didn't Zsa Zsa Gabor star in Queen of Outer Space?


[video=youtube;FPtvfd8CLiQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPtvfd8CLiQ[/video]
 
[video=youtube;ixsKAEalya8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixsKAEalya8[/video] GM made a song with the word Star in it. Rumors he enjoyed a cheeky game of Elite 84...
 
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It is really quite simple, in order to avoid getting absolutely flooded with requests for various persons favourite celebrity and or known person, only people significant within fields pertaining to Elite are added?
This means within the realm of science/science fiction/space/astronomy e.t.c.

Its not that Bowie isn't important, but more that there needs to be some sort of criteria or else we'd be adding people near daily, and remember, it isn't only American's that should be added.

I read 20 celebrities died every day in 2016
 
Yeah, it's not even something I'm entirely comfortable discussing or an opinion I'm keen to 'put out there'. I understand grief and different ways of handling. I'd just... prefer it wasn't brought over 'here'. ED is an escape, you know?

Oh, agreed. I just never really thought of these as means of processing grief, but a tribute to accomplishment. If it was a matter of sadly holding up a candle to the cosmos because they're so torn up inside, I'd be feeling a bit...icky about it too.
 
(I posted this on Facebook)

Not going to be a popular comment this, but here goes ...

Why? Why does Frontier do this again and again and again?
Carrie Fisher was just an actress. Yes she starred in a sci-fi film, but she was still only an actress. It would be more appropriate for there to be a Carrie Fisher/Princess Leia tribute in the online MMO SWTOR than in Elite Dangerous.

Did Carrie have anything to do with Elite Dangerous existing? Did Carrie even play computer games? And if she did *ever* play computer games did she ever play Elite Dangerous? Did she ever play *any* space themed game at all? I'm guessing the answer to these questions is likely to be no, she didn't.

She wasn't an astrophysicist, an astronomer, a scientist, heck we can't even be sure she was a gamer. She was just an actress.

But heck, let's throw common sense and logic out the window. Let's name a station/planet/commodity after every single person that dies ever. Because if one person deserves it, then everyone deserves it, otherwise no-one does.
 
Alien, while I get the idea you're going for, I don't think that's a particularly helpful attitude.

Why? Carrie Fisher might have just been an actress (she wasn't, though, she was a thoroughly talented writer and script doctor) an actor can have just as much influence on a genre through their performance as a writer or a director. Film is an amalgamation of talent, and George Lucas is not solely responsible for it being what it is. Fisher is not just a puppet on a string. Actors bring more to a role than a mouth to say words with.

But regardless of talent, consider the idea of what her most iconic role represents. Since you're posting from Facebook, I'll do the same:

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Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia was one of the more influential characters on me growing up. Along with children stories like The Paper Bag Princess or, heck, even Miss Piggy, they kept coming back to mind whenever I saw generic damsels in distress on movies and TV. It didn't take me long to realize who was more interesting and memorable, and who I'd rather write about in my own stories.

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Anyway, my point is there is nothing wrong with honoring an actor/actress that had a significant impact on how we view science fiction (or the world), any more than a writer or a director.

But I will agree with you in that we shouldn't be making station naming some kind of "go-to" tribute. This goes on much longer and they will never NOT be able to, because butt hurt fans will say "well, why is my favorite XYZ less important than THAT XYZ that got their own station? Or worse: "Mine should get a full station, not just an outpost." (or a planet, or a star, etc etc...)

In short, we do need to find other ways to show respect to people. CGs, NPC names (they can always use more variety), GalNet articles with an in-joke reference, etc...
 
She was also an author, feminist and the living representative of a female character (in the 70s) that was a princess that didn't require rescuing by a guy, participated in combat and was clearly in authority.
 
She was also an author, feminist and the living representative of a female character (in the 70s) that was a princess that didn't require rescuing by a guy, participated in combat and was clearly in authority.

I have nothing against Carrie nor the character she is most famous for, I welcome a tribute to her but Bowie simply MUST have one too.
and before people say he had nothing to do with space, the precident has already been set, by an in-game tribute to the legendary Terry Pratchett.

FD, Mr Braben, PLEASE do not shun Bowie! :'(
 
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