General / Off-Topic FDEV Year End Final Results posted (year ending May 31st 2017)

Clearly the issue is that FDev therefore have £12m+ of cash spare and they'll be tempted to increase the size of the development teams through hiring. This is a bad thing: too many cooks spoil the broth, 9 women can't make a baby in 1 month, etc.

The only way for FDev to save themselves from Doomed™ is instead lay off a hundred or so staff and shrink the development teams. All the best development houses get smaller over time, they start at 500 staff and gradually reduce before hitting maximum production at 30 employees. Hold Hunger Games or Musical Chairs events to make downsizing a fun activity.

The money gained from the record annual sales revenue and Tencent investment would be better placed in a big money tower for remaining staff to swim in - it's a widely-known morale booster. And literally burning money is a more efficient source of heat than a central radiator system.

With fewer staff and £millions sitting unused, Elite development pace will increase ten-fold! The game is saved!

This needs repping but I have run out for GT. Someone please oblige.
 

Stachel

Banned
I see this as them saving £12m on property to instead spend on making product to sell.

You apologists really need to get your ducks in a row.

One minute you are claiming FD has bought a new building for cash, the next minute you're saying it is a good thing that they haven't.

We all need you to explain why it is a big problem to NOT own the building.

It is no problem at all. I have never said it is a problem. I've said only that the claims hearabouts that Frontier has bought a new building are false.

There people seem to think this shows how well Frontier is doing financially. These people seem reluctant to face up to the fact Frontier just took out a £4m overdraft facility.
 
I took out an overdraft facility.
Didn't need it; took it anyway.
Glad I did; because I ended up having to use it to get my grandmother admitted to hospital.

This article is concise and clear as to how Frontier are doing: https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/financials?s=FDEV:LSE

Why is this arguing being allowed to continue? It's neither constructive, nor informative (unless you consider the ravings of a clearly bitter individual -with nothing better to do with his time than misunderstand simple financial reports- to be informative).

You can lead a horse to water.. and all that.

Isn't it about time to let this die?
 
I took out an overdraft facility.
Didn't need it; took it anyway.
Glad I did; because I ended up having to use it to get my grandmother admitted to hospital.

This article is concise and clear as to how Frontier are doing: https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/financials?s=FDEV:LSE

Why is this arguing being allowed to continue? It's neither constructive, nor informative (unless you consider the ravings of a clearly bitter individual -with nothing better to do with his time than misunderstand simple financial reports- to be informative).

You can lead a horse to water.. and all that.

Isn't it about time to let this die?

Couldn't agree more. The link you put up also had a story linked to it on the summary page that was a nice concise read saying the world is not ending: https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/tips-ideas/2017/09/08/frontier-developments-caps-stellar-year/
 
I took out an overdraft facility.
Didn't need it; took it anyway.
Glad I did; because I ended up having to use it to get my grandmother admitted to hospital.

This article is concise and clear as to how Frontier are doing: https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/financials?s=FDEV:LSE

Why is this arguing being allowed to continue? It's neither constructive, nor informative (unless you consider the ravings of a clearly bitter individual -with nothing better to do with his time than misunderstand simple financial reports- to be informative).

You can lead a horse to water.. and all that.

Isn't it about time to let this die?

Well it's pretty clear that someone got an axe to grind here, it's not factual and I've seen the same info being spread around the internet, so is that a coincident?
 
I took out an overdraft facility.
Didn't need it; took it anyway.
Glad I did; because I ended up having to use it to get my grandmother admitted to hospital.

This article is concise and clear as to how Frontier are doing: https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/financials?s=FDEV:LSE

Why is this arguing being allowed to continue? It's neither constructive, nor informative (unless you consider the ravings of a clearly bitter individual -with nothing better to do with his time than misunderstand simple financial reports- to be informative).

You can lead a horse to water.. and all that.

Isn't it about time to let this die?

I enjoy Stachel's desperation, tbh.

Its all doomed! Look at how they dont split [x] into [y] and [z]! EA did it, so FD must be doomed! I am not sayin' anything, I am just sayin'. And that building, it isn't even bought! They are doomed! HAHAHAHA! I dont have an axe to grind, just sayin'. You are all fanbois and apologists but I uncovered the truth. They said I was mad BUT WHO IS LAUGHING KNOW!

No, I am not having an axe to grind, I dont suggest anything.

I am just sayin'.
 
Hear hear!
Please, if we do have someone with great insight into corporate finances; I truly would like to understand what is the big deal between renting or owning a commercial property.

The idea is the company aren't responsible for maintenance costs, repairs, security of the building, insuring it, this all suppose to save money. It less risky, companies can end the contract early perhaps owning only a month or two or rent instead having to look at selling the building and get lumbered with it maintenance costs until it sold, which can cost an absolute fortune.
The downside of renting is companies can raise the rent, and maintenance fees which can be seperate and absurdly high and if you want anything done like repairing a light or removing a stud wall that is clear design to be move or a extra couple power sockets, they act like it the end of the bloody world at least in the two firms I worked where they were renting offices.

Whether Frontier will end up owning it, renting it or they are broke they are planning to squat in it I haven't got a clue clue! I supposed if I weren't so lazy I spend half hour finding out the answer but in 1.45 here so bed time.
 
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Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Clearly the issue is that FDev therefore have £12m+ of cash spare and they'll be tempted to increase the size of the development teams through hiring. This is a bad thing: too many cooks spoil the broth, 9 women can't make a baby in 1 month, etc.

The only way for FDev to save themselves from Doomed™ is instead lay off a hundred or so staff and shrink the development teams. All the best development houses get smaller over time, they start at 500 staff and gradually reduce before hitting maximum production at 30 employees. Hold Hunger Games or Musical Chairs events to make downsizing a fun activity.

The money gained from the record annual sales revenue and Tencent investment would be better placed in a big money tower for remaining staff to swim in - it's a widely-known morale booster. And literally burning money is a more efficient source of heat than a central radiator system.

With fewer staff and £millions sitting unused, Elite development pace will increase ten-fold! The game is saved!

I think I detect a certain tone of irnoy in those words.
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Re the new building, my understanding is that it is a lease indeed.

Latest accounts.

You mean like the revolving credit facility FDEV also had during previous years with Barclays? Do you realize that having an existing revolving credit facility available to draw from does not automatically mean that any money is actually used or that actual debt is generated? Do you also realize that in some scenarios contracting some debt (even if cash rich) can actually be effective tax wise, or otherwise, to the bottom line?
 
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