Fighting Missions are absoult pointless

grobyc87gbs

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Nearly each time I had a figthing Mission, where I have to decide for one side to fight, i get a bounty. :rolleyes:

You need only one shot on a friendly Ship, or your fighter hits a friendly ship and you get an bounty. I don't know exactly what happens, because in the fight I don't see each bullet.
But the joke is the amount of the bounty. I get an 400, yes "four hundred" Credits bounty, but the mission is over, I am attacked from my own ships, and at the Station of the Fraction there are two possibilities.
The blast me out of space when I want to dock, or I get in prison about 50 Ly (or more) away from my actual locations.

One time I got an Bounty by defending rescue ships against Thargoids. One bullet of my Multi Cannon hits an friendly ship. I don't know that exactly. Suddenly I get the message "bounty received" or similar.
Hey, I defended the rescue Ships against enemy Thargoids, and I get an 400 Credit Bounty and get attacked from my own ships because one bullet, which was resisted by the ships shield?

Sorry, but the fighting Missions absolute pointless and frustrating.

In my opinion this is an absolute Game fault. Sry, but fix this.
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
grobyc87gbs said:
Sorry, but the fighting Missions absolute pointless
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Why do people say things like this? If it is pointless why are you doing it? Having trouble doing something correctly does not make the activity pointless.

A 'single bullet' is not enough to get a bounty. Actually they gave us even more leeway here about a year ago. I believe you are hitting them more than you realize.

Trigger discipline is a skill. Actually, everything you said in your post is avoidable with more attention to what you are doing.
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Have not had a FF action fine or bounty for a long time since I stopped using SLF pilots... and shot guns
I know win wars over 4 days with ZERO FF actions and the faction wins the asset prize for the war easy... normaly 4-0...
Combat near installations are harder but still easy to do with OUT getting a fine or bounty status during it..
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
contact your local army drill instructor about your problems with fire discipline :D
as posting here wont sort out your problem...…………….
I suggest you find a tutor in game maybe to talk ya through it as I am afraid there is a git gud factor here
(it was real bad when the suicidal vipers bug was around but now its pretty easily avoided with marginal skills involved)
as for your personal ship hired npc crew they have a mind of there own sometimes and get paid for doing nothing so I don't use them in general...
or if you do use them restrict there weapons usage forward fire etc……………..
 
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grobyc87gbs

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With SLF Pilot you mean the NPC Pilot for the fighters? Sry, I play the game in German.

But yes, the last two times, I send my Pilot to attack the enemy NPC, and I get the bounty. And it was near a Megaship.
But when the NPC is the Problem, than it is already a bug that should be fixed. And yes, the NPC is passive and I check very carefully which target he should attack. Because the first time, I ordered to attack to the wrong target. But this was my fault.
Nevertheless, to get a bounty happens to easily.

And a bounty about 400 Credits? So much trouble for 400 Credits?
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
btw 400 creds just seems like a lot for a noob...………………. in two weeks total of in game time spent playing or so it will be pittance
always pay the fine to avoid prison...…..if possible at different system with an interstellar factors is my advice
 
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sinisalo

sinisalo
It's your NPC causing this? That info wasn't in the OP :)

I've never hired one and I've been at this for years. Never saw the need. I've only used SLFs for canyon rides, not in combat.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Protip: Don't spray fire round indiscriminately and this will never happen.

Edit: Oh and now we have a reveal that it's an npc pilot. It would help if you gave all the facts when ranting in future.
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
STRONTIUM DOG said:
btw 400 creds just seems a like lot for a noob...………………. in two weeks of in game time spent playing or so it will be pittance
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I think he is saying it's too LOW. Like it's not even worth it if it's so little. Why even bother issuing the bounty sort of thing.
 

Ezren

Ezren
I made my fortune in bounty hunting and combat missions. At this point I'm basically an oil tycoon, but the oil is ship debris.

I've had very few issues with friendly fire, even when I was using a SLF, so I'm not sure where these constant issues are arising from for you. I'd recommend a high degree of precision in your choice of weapons if such problems exist - though I did an extensive run as a Frag Vulture, which is decidedly not a precision vehicle, and didn't encounter the issues you describe.

If you're using a low-ranked NPC pilot, keep them on a precise weapon, like beam lasers, to reduce stray shots.
 

grobyc87gbs

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Yes I think its the NPC. I play the game alone. And when I read some answers, I know why. ;)
The last two times I collected the items from the destroyed ship and let my NPC pilot fight against the next enemy target. Yes, it was the enemy target!!!
And a master NPC is very helpfully. He can outrun a Master (NPC) Anaconda because this little figters are very agile and fast. And he often saved my life. Especially against the Thargoids.

But when this little fighters hit an friendly ship, and I got an bounty about 400 Credits (how much hits could that be??? One, or two??) than this is a design fail / a bug.

When I smuggle some illegal or stolen items in a station I got an fine in this station. This is much more higher (some thousands credits). I pay this and thats it. Needed for an Engineer (The Dweller). But with this bounty (400 Credits :unsure: ) I was treated like an Pirat.
In this case, some station shoot at me, some take me in prison (50 or more LY from my location) or I have to search for an station with an interstellar faction. Sorry, thats pointless, and in my opinion thats a bug.

And why I shouldn't write about this bug here?

But yes, I am a noob with 287 hours play time, an Anaconda with A Class Equipment a Krait MK2 which I use for deep core mining and access to approx 1/3 of the Engineers.
I played Elite original on Amiga (1989) and I played hours with Frontier Elite 2 (my Ship was an Panther Clipper maxed with shields and Weapons, etc....) in the year 1993 / 1994 In this game I could land on ALL planets. Also this with an atmosphere and cities. Frontier had a much better UI than ED now. I still have the original Box with the star map. So by the way.

So yes, I know the difference between my own fault and a game fault.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Yes - low level NPCs (and that includes Master) are horrible at aiming. I got an expert right now, and most of the time she misses. Maybe I ought to get her a different fighter with a hitscan weapon. You can call that a bug, or you can call it game design - what would you call an infallible NPC if they were shooting at you?

As for handling that bounty, though, that's definitely something you're doing wrong.
First of all, the station will only shoot at you if you allow yourself to get scanned on approach. Avoid those scans, and all you'll have to worry about is the Anonymous Protocol, which can be a bit tedious.
So, get rid of that bounty. Hop over to a station which is under different management and that has an interstellar factor. Pay off that bounty, and continue whatever you were doing.
 

Ezren

Ezren
grobyc87gbs said:
words words words
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Right, well I guess reading responses is overrated. The real art is aimlessly complaining in every direction after bragging about having an Anaconda (??) But the topic of this thread is "NPCs are unhappy about being shot by my pilot", which doesn't sound like a bug.

Anyway, I'll just circle back to what I said before which I guess was not fully absorbed.

Ezren said:
If you're using a low-ranked NPC pilot, keep them on a precise weapon, like beam lasers, to reduce stray shots.
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grobyc87gbs

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And again...
The bounty I get is 400 Credits.

When you get a fine about 40 € or $ you get in prison? Or you have to search for an Embassy in a other Country to pay the fine, else you get caught by the police and jailed?

That's ok for you?

Yes, that's a game, but the content also should make sense.
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
if I shoot someone and did not have the ability too throw down my weapon
I would vacate that country fast and contact them after to try arrange re entry
that's the basic logic me thinks
 
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grobyc87gbs

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To think, that this part could(should) be reworked? Oh, no, that's absolute impossible in some minds.....
Other Players write in the forum their critic or problems? Oh no, how dare you!?!

How many of yours in a restaurant order for example ham & eggs. And when the eggs are rotten, then you only eat the ham and leave the eggs without reclaim?
I am sure this case is your fault. ;)
No, I don't want an answer.
 
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