Finding CASSIOPEIA A in the Formidine Rift.

Gypsy12 · Mar 14, 2016

Just reading about CASSIOPEIA A

Its the strongest radio source in the Galaxy. And it is located 11,000Ly away. Which would but it squarely in the Formidine Rift.

Its Coordinates are: RA50:23 21 10 DEC50:+58 32 00

Is there any chance we can translate these coordinates to the ED Galmap?

Cheers,

Gypsy. [alien]

Jaybong · Mar 14, 2016

if it's a catalogued system I thought it's already supposed to be searchable?

Gypsy12 · Mar 14, 2016

Nope... Tried all the prefixes.

But it would be crazy not to put it there. This will require some maths me thinks.

Han_Zen · Mar 14, 2016

It's a super nova remenant. Probably a Black hole in 3302.

clavain · Mar 14, 2016

Gypsy12 said:
Nope... Tried all the prefixes.

But it would be crazy not to put it there. This will require some maths me thinks.

You would be surprised how many major catalogued systems are missing from ED. Try finding the four major stars that make up the Trapezium at the heart of Orion Nebula sometime, for example. It would not surprise me at all if it were just not there, or was in entirely the wrong place (have also encountered this).

Han_Zen · Mar 14, 2016

Simbad lists most identifiers: http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-basic?Ident=Cassiopeia+a&submit=SIMBAD+search

If it's not one of these, I doubt it's in game.

Gypsy12 · Mar 14, 2016

It is worth a shot though? After all, we have known about it for a long time now, and it is one of the landmarks of the Galaxy!

Where better to put the mystery of the Formidine Rift? It should be a small nebula... small enough that finding it by sight would take immense luck, as after all the actual explosion occurred 300 years ago our time.

If we can get a rough position from those coordinates we should!

I have PM'd Cmdr Jalan Bax as he did sterling work over here finding another system using RA and DEC coordinates: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125458&p=1970762#post1970762

Hopefully he will respond!

Han_Zen · Mar 14, 2016

Gypsy12 said:
It is worth a shot though? After all, we have known about it for a long time now, and it is one of the landmarks of the Galaxy!

Where better to put the mystery of the Formidine Rift? It should be a small nebula... small enough that finding it by sight would take immense luck, as after all the actual explosion occurred 300 years ago our time.

If we can get a rough position from those coordinates we should!

I have PM'd Cmdr Jalan Bax as he did sterling work over here finding another system using RA and DEC coordinates: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125458&p=1970762#post1970762

Hopefully he will respond!

300 years + 11000 years + 1300 years. The radio source is decreasing with allmost 1% per year.
Not much left to spot, I fear.

Arjin · Mar 14, 2016

Maybe start here, M52 (NGC 7654) and M103 (NGC 581), are located in Cassiopeia

nosleepdemon · Mar 14, 2016

Or maybe it isn't there because something ate it...

Gypsy12 · Mar 14, 2016

Lots of pessimism here!

Cmon!

Han_Zen · Mar 14, 2016

Gypsy12 said:
Lots of pessimism here!

Cmon!

Quite the opposite. If A Cass is no longer visible in 3302. It gives Kahina the perfect reason to go to London on spring equinox and search old documents for RA and DEC data.

Gypsy12 · Mar 14, 2016

Cmdr Jalan Bax is trying to root out the ED Coordinates... Im going to have a shot too tomorrow when im a bit fresher!

Jalan Bax · Mar 14, 2016

Hi there! I've had a quick play with the numbers I can get and I've got these coordinates:

-10294.07 : -412.09 : -4103.73

This puts CAS A in the right general area, ~11.000 ly away, but there's not a lot there.

In fact, there does seem to be a small, spherical area of buggerall around that point. Can anybody else confirm?

The closest star to those coordinates is HYPHEERB SL-K D9-0.

As all the stars around there that I've looked at are procedurally generated, I reckon Frontier hasn't put CAS A in.

OR... story-wise, it's evaporated!

Anyway, might be worth a trip. There may be a neutron star or BH hidden in one of those systems that'll fit the bill.

Henri · Mar 14, 2016

I wonder what Drew ment

Han_Zen · Mar 14, 2016

In a few hundred years or so, Cas A's scattered remains will have completely mixed together, forever erasing important clues about how the star lived and died.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/starlog/cassa.html

Cmdr Zach · Apr 30, 2016

Henri said:
I wonder what Drew ment

Meant where?

Has Cass A been out to bed yet?

Legacy_LuckyLuke · Apr 30, 2016

I still think it's out there somewhere. My bet is in the HYPHEERB sector. Might go for a wander for it myself in a week or so...

nickdibart16 · Oct 16, 2016

Jalan Bax said:
Hi there! I've had a quick play with the numbers I can get and I've got these coordinates:

-10294.07 : -412.09 : -4103.73

This puts CAS A in the right general area, ~11.000 ly away, but there's not a lot there.

In fact, there does seem to be a small, spherical area of buggerall around that point. Can anybody else confirm?

The closest star to those coordinates is HYPHEERB SL-K D9-0.

As all the stars around there that I've looked at are procedurally generated, I reckon Frontier hasn't put CAS A in.

OR... story-wise, it's evaporated!

Anyway, might be worth a trip. There may be a neutron star or BH hidden in one of those systems that'll fit the bill.

My estimation ended up being very close to yours. I also checked out some systems in the area and noticed a lone Neutron Star. The system is HYPHEERB QQ-K D9-4. Maybe this is the supernova remnant that will be searched for? The event won't be taking place until November, which should be after the update. There is always a possibility that something could be added in for Cassiopeia A.