First time playing Elite and...

[forger]

There should be a simulator VR room where you can pick any ship and test all of its aspects.
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should be? why is that? imagine 3300 year, some remote stations, and you come in marching saying i want to test this ship you should have VR room, think they will not laugh at you?

Bad game design. There must be a consequence for actual death.

there are consequences as this game has no "LTI" and currently even no insurance, so once you die you lose everything but your life, or you suggest we must keep all our belongings and just lose a life? you want easy way all the way don't you?
life is irrelevant and is no consequence at all in digital universe if you can create new characters and transfer all the stuff, your ship, equipment, cargo isn't irrelevant as once their gone their gone.

i think you have no idea what is death - if renaming yourself and losing nothing is your good game design then ED has a bad one, but that renaming concept is as far from demon souls as it can be.

 

[forger]

Before I tell you guys about my (humiliating) account, let me tell you a little bit of my background.

I first played Elite on the good old ZX Spectrum. I was hooked, and I would come home from school everyday, forget about homework, and just fly. I reached Elite in a couple of months back then, and I was so obsessed with it that I actually hacked Elite (not to cheat) to see just how many ships I needed to kill to get the rating (the answer was 6144 objects...not just ships... cargo cannisters counted too).

Fast forward a few years, and my Dad bought me a PC. I found Elite for the PC and I played it until Deadly then I stopped.

So, I figure I'm a pretty darn good pilot, right?

Now, 30 years later, I finally get my hands on Combat 1.00 of Elite Dangerous. I hooked up my joytsick, got my TrackIR all calibrated, went into ED. Shot some cannisters (easy peasy). Hunted down Solar Flare, not too difficult.

Then I died. And I kept dying. There was no way I could beat Crimson Triumph. None. Nada.

Video link of the attempts -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YTQgoZ4as

My reflexes couldn't have degraded in only 30 years, right? Right?

*grumble*

ps: I finally got Crimson Triumph but I think that was a lucky shot

vertical thrust is the answer, head to head he kills you, head to head with 25-50% vertical thrust applied and he dies or almost dies

 

[Aleksej]

This shouldn't happen.

There should be a simulator VR room where you can pick any ship and test all of its aspects.

Bad game design. There must be a consequence for actual death.

What is the sense in having this VR room you call it? Test any ships and all their aspects would mean that you have a game within the game. However, there are no consequences for the actions within that game at all. So why would anyone bother playing the game if they can do the same in your simulator without any consequences? Everyone being able to take any ship right away - no sense in playing the real game were you have to work your way to any ship.

Have you done at least some research about the game? Your post is not supported by any facts at all and might confuse newcomers. If you know nothing of the death penalties this does not mean that there are no consequences for dying or these are not planned in the game. So please read at least this:
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5323

And then if you consider it a bad design post why do you think it is a bad design.

Now, 30 years later, I finally get my hands on Combat 1.00 of Elite Dangerous. I hooked up my joytsick, got my TrackIR all calibrated, went into ED. Shot some cannisters (easy peasy). Hunted down Solar Flare, not too difficult.

Then I died. And I kept dying. There was no way I could beat Crimson Triumph. None. Nada.

Video link of the attempts -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YTQgoZ4as

My reflexes couldn't have degraded in only 30 years, right? Right?

*grumble*

ps: I finally got Crimson Triumph but I think that was a lucky shot

After watching the video I might say that you miss to much. You should have hit the enemy at least twice or thrice as much as you have hit him. Also as Forger has suggested when flying head to head apply some of the vertical thrust up or down in order to evade some of the hits.

 

[FoxTwo]

After watching the video I might say that you miss to much. You should have hit the enemy at least twice or thrice as much as you have hit him. Also as Forger has suggested when flying head to head apply some of the vertical thrust up or down in order to evade some of the hits.

Heh thanks for the comments.

When I made that video I was still only about 30 to 45 mins into ED for the first time. Still trying to remember which button on the stick I bound which function to etc etc.

But mostly, re-learning how to handle the joystick (which I had kept on the shelf for a number of years). Got too used to keyboard/mouse for other games.

But yeah, still "getting used to it".

 

[Ghost1]

i think one i have the X-52 pro ill be good. I just can't do it with a ps4 controller something doesn't seem right to me





i must practice more. Got i hope we get mining and at least 3 ships in standard beta . i have a couple more people who will be joining me

 

[Crimson1973]

vertical thrust is the answer, head to head he kills you, head to head with 25-50% vertical thrust applied and he dies or almost dies

I never get head to head with him. Tried that at the beginning and died too many times. Just put all energy into engines, pull in behind him at the start. Put all energy into weapons. Blast away. When he makes a run. Blast the Thrust and stay behind him. He dies. You win. I'm betting some of the real players wouldn't even let you get them in your cross hairs thought.

On another note: man I love the feeling of control with an x52pro. It really is awesome.

 

[forger]

I never get head to head with him. Tried that at the beginning and died too many times. Just put all energy into engines, pull in behind him at the start. Put all energy into weapons. Blast away. When he makes a run. Blast the Thrust and stay behind him. He dies. You win. I'm betting some of the real players wouldn't even let you get them in your cross hairs thought.

On another note: man I love the feeling of control with an x52pro. It really is awesome.

yeah, i love my x55, need to practice like a lot but feeling is everything!

try next time head to head with main thruster in around 60% and vertical thruster down like ~30-50%, same time move you stick so the enemy will be in your crosshairs all the time and just empty your gun's power cells

 

[Rabscuttle]

x52 is a very good one $150,

or Thrustmasxter T. is a very good starter stick, on sale for $30.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/353243/TFlight_Hotas_X_Joystick

edit: No its not because you are using the Xbox controller, many people have a hard time with the solo missions until they get some experience in flying in ED(you have to learn to fly in ED). Just keep practicing and you will get there, and then you will wonder how did you ever die to these guys.

Thanks for this! I'm going to give the starter one a try. Ordered.

 

[lysan]

Before I tell you guys about my (humiliating) account, let me tell you a little bit of my background.

I first played Elite on the good old ZX Spectrum. I was hooked, and I would come home from school everyday, forget about homework, and just fly. I reached Elite in a couple of months back then, and I was so obsessed with it that I actually hacked Elite (not to cheat) to see just how many ships I needed to kill to get the rating (the answer was 6144 objects...not just ships... cargo cannisters counted too).

Fast forward a few years, and my Dad bought me a PC. I found Elite for the PC and I played it until Deadly then I stopped.

So, I figure I'm a pretty darn good pilot, right?

Now, 30 years later, I finally get my hands on Combat 1.00 of Elite Dangerous. I hooked up my joytsick, got my TrackIR all calibrated, went into ED. Shot some cannisters (easy peasy). Hunted down Solar Flare, not too difficult.

Then I died. And I kept dying. There was no way I could beat Crimson Triumph. None. Nada.

Video link of the attempts -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YTQgoZ4as

My reflexes couldn't have degraded in only 30 years, right? Right?

*grumble*

ps: I finally got Crimson Triumph but I think that was a lucky shot

Yeah! I see, first all pipes to weapons, steady moves adjust with YAW as you line up! set 3 pipes to shield and 3 pipes to weapon, leave engine at 0 (you don't need it unless you want to run)

 

[Spiggs]

<eats popcorn>

Ran out of "Space Raiders" again then?

Kudos to the OP, keep at it your tenacity an positive attitude will pay dividends.