Fleet Carrier Filter in Starmap

GraphicEqualizer

GraphicEqualizer
I am glad it is not just me thinking I am going insane -- so did you find it? Two people gave you a thumbs up apparently and very helpfully did not answer your question - or now mine!
 

buzzx

buzzx
Are we sure there was an option in the Galactic map to filter systems for Fleet Carriers?
I know we have this in he left nav panel in ship but i cant recall ever seeing this in the Galactic map.
If it did exist we can submit an issue to the issue tracker so we can get it confirmed. Ive searched and theres nothing in there for it at the moment.
 

varonica

varonica
Startravler said:
Since the last updates I can no longer set a filter in the star map to display the systems in which a carrier is available.
I'm playing in EDO and unfortunately I can no longer find this "Fleet Carrier Presence" option in the Star Maps filter.

Where can I find this filter setting?
Click to expand...

To be honest...good. When Fleet Carriers first came out I didn't want my FC presence advertised to all and sundry, I wanted to be all alone in the dark, not with a huge sign above my head shouting, "here I am" to everyone in the galaxy. I expressed my dissatisfaction at the time but unfortunately they went ahead with it that way and didn't provide a private option for us who just want to be alone and unfindable! Having you FC findable should be a player option not a compulsory game feature!
 

Comandante

Comandante
varonica said:
To be honest...good. When Fleet Carriers first came out I didn't want my FC presence advertised to all and sundry, I wanted to be all alone in the dark, not with a huge sign above my head shouting, "here I am" to everyone in the galaxy. I expressed my dissatisfaction at the time but unfortunately they went ahead with it that way and didn't provide a private option for us who just want to be alone and unfindable! Having you FC findable should be a player option not a compulsory game feature!
Click to expand...
I recall that one of the original issues with Odyssey was something to do with FC loading of... 'Something' that was causing massive crashes - pretty sure it was in the first few days - they identified it, and IIRC, they switched it off temporarily.

Off-topic(ish) but related - I'd also like the ability to switch off FCs from the system map - is this done yet? I have no interest in seeing or visiting any. Sorry to sound a stalwart!

Originally, I wanted two options - 'just me' and 'open' - because I knew that most folks wanted the open option where your FC was always there, and I just wanted an FC with no upkeep and just house my ships for exploration/movement around the bubble - no trading, just store ships and repair them. I'm convinced now that a third option, 'group' would also be awesome - so only when you or members of your group, the FC becomes visible.

It's the reason I never bothered to get an FC - the upkeep (despite the fact that you can save enough to keep you going for a few years+) that put me off - it was completely out of my remit to go for such a design decision. Which is a shame. Then again, it's well known that players have no involvement at all in the design decisions of the community, going back to the days of severing the DDF. Oh well, grin and bear it :)

I wonder sometimes though what the impact would have been if they'd have tailored FCs to three different modes of use such that you didn't have persistent FCs. I've been to systems where you have to scroll several times just to view different parts of the system map, because over 99% of the system map is FCs.

Anyway, +1'ing you, despite the fact it's probably too late and we've got different ideas for solo/group/open FCs... I doubt things will change, either way!
 

varonica

varonica
Comandante said:
Off-topic(ish) but related - I'd also like the ability to switch off FCs from the system map - is this done yet? I have no interest in seeing or visiting any. Sorry to sound a stalwart!
Click to expand...

I have no issue with my FC appearing on the system map, if you happen to stumble upon the same system. You can't dock on my FC anyway because it's all turned off, and that's the way I like it! And if it's all turned off, what on earth is the point of advertising my presence to the entire galaxy?

At the moment anyone can follow me anywhere I go and that's not the way I like it. Once out of inhabited systems, and I can see an argument where if I am parked in a system with a station it would probably be known to everyone because the station can let them know I am there, there should be a mode where the only way to find me would be to accidentally stumble into the same system!
 

Demonlord79

Demonlord79
varonica said:
To be honest...good. When Fleet Carriers first came out I didn't want my FC presence advertised to all and sundry, I wanted to be all alone in the dark, not with a huge sign above my head shouting, "here I am" to everyone in the galaxy. I expressed my dissatisfaction at the time but unfortunately they went ahead with it that way and didn't provide a private option for us who just want to be alone and unfindable! Having you FC findable should be a player option not a compulsory game feature!
Click to expand...
I don't understand why you feel this way. Nobody can do anything to it can they? Or can someone attack it?
And this is just a curious question, why did you want one?
Not mocking you just wondering.
 

buzzx

buzzx
I think its fair enough. Just give carrier owners the option to chose whether they advertise their position. Maybe you can only see them if you are within 100Ly and they have their beacon on? They sure do come in handy when you are thousands of light years out busy using your external camera marveling at your ship when suddenly you bounce of a rogue mountain peak and suffer major damage!
 
Last edited:

Koma Pahu

Koma Pahu
buzzx said:
They sure do come in handy when you are thousands of light years out busy using your external camera marveling at your ship when suddenly you bounce of a rogue mountain peak and suffer major damage!
Click to expand...

That’s why I put a ship yard and repair on mine.

I got stuck by a miscalculation doing neutron jumps and had to self destruct - didn’t have time to wait for the fuel rats to come find me - and luckily a couple of jumps back I’d stumbled across a FC out in the black, off loaded my data and had somewhere to spawn without losing anything that I couldn’t easily reacquire.

I send mine ahead on my travels and hope it may help another unfortunate CMDR one day.
 

varonica

varonica
Demonlord79 said:
I don't understand why you feel this way. Nobody can do anything to it can they? Or can someone attack it?
And this is just a curious question, why did you want one?
Not mocking you just wondering.
Click to expand...

Several issues;

1) If I make an interesting discovery out in the black I often post it on the forums sans system name and details until I get to do a full investigation, now if I post it anyone can find me instantly! Not happy.

2) If a particular person decides to be nasty they can follow my FC around and attack me whenever I jump into the system to dock and depart my FC, and they always know where I am, basically they can blockade me out of my own FC unless I am willing to take the penalty of rebuy every time I dock as I don't have a ship equipped for combat.

3) The use of Fleet Carriers for exploration is long established and discussed, not going over it all again, basically why I want one is my business and isn't up for discussion, and yes, it does come across as mocking, glad you added the rider to explain why you posted it!
 

Demonlord79

Demonlord79
varonica said:
Several issues;

1) If I make an interesting discovery out in the black I often post it on the forums sans system name and details until I get to do a full investigation, now if I post it anyone can find me instantly! Not happy.

2) If a particular person decides to be nasty they can follow my FC around and attack me whenever I jump into the system to dock and depart my FC, and they always know where I am, basically they can blockade me out of my own FC unless I am willing to take the penalty of rebuy every time I dock as I don't have a ship equipped for combat.

3) The use of Fleet Carriers for exploration is long established and discussed, not going over it all again, basically why I want one is my business and isn't up for discussion, and yes, it does come across as mocking, glad you added the rider to explain why you posted it!
Click to expand...
Ah I see, Thank you. I really don't know much about them...o7 Commander
 

photomankc

photomankc
varonica said:
Several issues;

1) If I make an interesting discovery out in the black I often post it on the forums sans system name and details until I get to do a full investigation, now if I post it anyone can find me instantly! Not happy.
Click to expand...
For your carrier to factor in they'd need to be close already as I think it's some 30 or 40LY around you that you can find them with the filter. But that's possible I suppose. I don't see how they would know it's "you" though, just that a carrier is present nearby.

varonica said:
2) If a particular person decides to be nasty they can follow my FC around and attack me whenever I jump into the system to dock and depart my FC, and they always know where I am, basically they can blockade me out of my own FC unless I am willing to take the penalty of rebuy every time I dock as I don't have a ship equipped for combat.
Click to expand...
Anyone that did such a thing with me would certainly never have to worry about seeing me again in game. Your point is taken though, under some circumstances I can see bookmarks I have for a carrier update but I'm still not clear on how it works. Some update, some don't. The player should be allowed to decide if and who can bookmark though.

varonica said:
3) The use of Fleet Carriers for exploration is long established and discussed, not going over it all again, basically why I want one is my business and isn't up for discussion, and yes, it does come across as mocking, glad you added the rider to explain why you posted it!
Click to expand...
People just have a hard time seeing what they didn't consider themselves. I'd not take it too harshly. I got mocked last night for flying forward only throttle. "Wait, what? You only use the stick to go forward and have a reverse button? Why would you do that?". He just couldn't conceptualize it because he never did it another way. For me fighting 20 years of flight sim muscle memory on how to zero my throttle simply is not worth the effort and avoids me bouncing off the walls like a ping pong ball.



I don't know how big a problem it is real-world, but I largely agree even so. They should not be advertised to the GalMap unless the player wants them to be OR they are parked in inhabited/controlled space.
 

forbiddenlake

forbiddenlake
When out exploring, I used to use the filter in Horizons to find a FC for repair or UC turnin. I'd use EDDB/Inara to find one nearby, then the filter to confirm that a FC is still in the system, so I wouldn't waste time going.

Due to the missing filter, now I don't bother; I just go farther to a station or to a DSSA carrier.
 

GraphicEqualizer

GraphicEqualizer
varonica said:
To be honest...good. When Fleet Carriers first came out I didn't want my FC presence advertised to all and sundry, I wanted to be all alone in the dark, not with a huge sign above my head shouting, "here I am" to everyone in the galaxy. I expressed my dissatisfaction at the time but unfortunately they went ahead with it that way and didn't provide a private option for us who just want to be alone and unfindable! Having you FC findable should be a player option not a compulsory game feature!
Click to expand...
I agree with this, Fleet Carriers should only be visible in the maps if the owner has set it to be available to everyone to dock. In addition to the galaxy map, this would would clear out all of the damn clutter from the system maps of busy areas too. If someone happens to be in the same system as my FC they should see it in the nav list of system POI only, just like things like nav beacons and tourist sites. In a game with anarchists, pirates and warring factions, and IRL gankers and seal clubbers the current mechanic makes zero sense.
 

Cupco

Cupco
The only work around I have found for this so far is to launch the game in Horizons mode. A bit of a hassle, but it works.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom