Flight Assist Off - Throttle control
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I expect your throttle axis range is NOT set on "Full Range Analogue Input" in control options. This should give you what you require, because at the moment you will have to press a button at the same time as throttle to engage reverse thrust, which is why zeroing throttle is doing nothing (unless you see what key/button is bound to reverse thrust and use it when you want to engage reverse).
Lancer
With FA off, you are basically free-floating through space. If you throttle up to, say, 300Km/s and then throttle back down, you're still going to continue to be moving 300Km/s with FA off, forever. This is the way it really is in space.
The only way to slow down is to either use reverse thrust, or turn FA back on to slow down or stop. Hope that was the answer you were seeking.
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As soon as i enable FA off i get full throttle ( ive checked to make sure the 'z' key isnt bound to another control) and i have no control over it after. I cant go into reverse throttle. The setting is Full range, forward and backwards.
Edit.....Had my joysticks throttle still bound in controls and it was at full throttle!!!!
Thats sorted but now and throttle control via my mouse wheel in FA off gives tiny tiny increases. Im spinning the wheel round and round and getting very little increase in power.
Edit.....Had my joysticks throttle still bound in controls and it was at full throttle!!!!
Thats sorted but now and throttle control via my mouse wheel in FA off gives tiny tiny increases. Im spinning the wheel round and round and getting very little increase in power.
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Easily done with multiple controllers we have plugged in.Apologies missed your last sentence, erm I'm not sure, presumably it feels different to flying with assist on yes, you have to move the wheel further to get the same effect? Don't quite get why that would be, unless it's because you're simply not used to assist off but it should be any different for actual throttle's effectiveness. I have never controlled the ship with the mouse wheel ever with assist on or off. I'll have to get back to you on that after I've tried it in game, for an answer for you.
Lancer
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If you are in Flight Assist Off mode,
and you want to increase or decrease your speed,
you will need to engage your forward or reverse thrusters.
Thrusters are different than throttle.
You will need to have your forward/reverse thrusters bound in order to use them.
To configure thrusters:
Launch ED > OPTIONS > CONTROLS > FLIGHT THRUST
and configure only
THRUST FORWARD AND BACKWARD AXIS
or
THRUST FORWARD, THRUST BACKWARD
Hope this helps you.
Strange now though when in FA on i have full control over throttle on my mouse wheel but in FA off it takes forever to increase or decrease power. And ive tried all the settings in controls.
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Thanks ill give it a try. So is throttle not used?
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Thanks ill give it a try. So is throttle not used?
Yes I believe NEUTRAL has the answer. The inputs need to be digital inputs so your mouse wheel keeps requesting throttle positions, so this is possibly why analogue will make it less effective. Mouse wheel is a sequence of on/off switches, so yeah NEUTRAL's suggestion should work.
Throttle and forward/backward thrusters are the same function on the ship, simply different ways to input the same method depending on your controller, one thing I hope you don't have an issue with, is full throttle happening in super cruise and the ship wanting to accelerate or decelerate, might not be any analogue half measure whilst in SC, I know I did when I had digital throttle inputs for thrust selected, but I was using an analogue controller, you aren't. See how you get on.
Lancer
Throttle and forward/backward thrusters are the same function on the ship, simply different ways to input the same method depending on your controller, one thing I hope you don't have an issue with, is full throttle happening in super cruise and the ship wanting to accelerate or decelerate, might not be any analogue half measure whilst in SC, I know I did when I had digital throttle inputs for thrust selected, but I was using an analogue controller, you aren't. See how you get on.
Lancer
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Throttle will still affect your speed.
So best to set throttle to zero, then use thrusters for fine control.
Reason is because the throttle will "fight" with your thrusters.
Example:
you set throttle at 50%, then set FA off --> your speed is then increased to full.
you then hold down your reverse thrusters to slow down to zero --> your speed goes down, but then slowly goes back up to full.
Reason for the speed going back up is because your throttle is still set to 50%.
So, if in FA off I recommend you set Throttle to 0% , then only use thrusters to brake or speed up.
Hope this helps
Does it not recognise both directions on your mouse wheel? I've honestly didn't know if mapping throttle to mouse was really possible, but I think you hit the nail on the head, you may have to press a button for reverse thrust.
You'll not go wrong with a HOTAS if you intend to play this game often, it's the logical step to take.
Yeah, like we've discovered, the mouse is really a series of digital switches, it's not an analogue controller, so when asking for full range throttle axis the only way is "full range analogue input", and then the mouse is not asking for consistant constant commands like an analogue controller would, the mouse resets every time you stop moving it, because it is switching on and off really quickly. (so you're having to do much more work).
There should perhaps be a "Full Range Digital Input". This is what you need to control the throttle with mouse wheel in FA Off ideally, unless like we've said, you press a button with throttle for reverse.
Sorry couldn't be more help. I will have a go tmrw with mouse and have a play about.
Lancer
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You can actually set forward and reverse thrusters to two buttons.
If you have a mouse with an extra two side buttons, you could assign forward thruster to one and reverse thrusters to the other.
OR
You can set the two thrusters on your keyboard: W for forward thruster, S for reverse thruster.
You can still leave throttle controls on your mousewheel.
I also recommend binding a keyboard button to set "Throttle 0%", to quickly zero throttle.
It looks like you still get maximum turn rate at 50% throttle even with FA off. Leaving it at 50% and turning FA off I carry on in the same direction if I don't hit any thrusters (do that to dock when I'm not in a hurry, FA off, turn and watch the space station drift by, FA on again when I'm lined up). At 100% throttle it'll still move my ship so when I pitch or yaw the ship's course eventually changes too (crashed into a station once due to that, before I realised it). Not tried 0.So, if in FA off I recommend you set Throttle to 0% , then only use thrusters to brake or speed up.
Hope this helps
Yeah I agree, problem is the mouse wheel is regarded a one button, not two (not both directions it seems). Like I say, you can't go wrong with a HOTAS if you do decide to get one. Or buy a mouse with more buttons on it so you can map a separate button for reverse.
Before I bought my CH Pro Throttle, I used my keyboard W and S keys for forward and reverse thrusters.
And my throttle was set to my mousewheel.
Works really well actually.
Also, if you are in supercruise, all thrusters are disabled; Only throttle works in supercruise.
Try your thrusters sometime in supercruise, it wont speed you up