For how many of you is New Era a tipping point?

Wrecked

Wrecked
After a two and a half year development cycle, we have, realistically speaking, the 95% final form of fleet carriers. Given it took 2.5 years to get to this point, it seems very unlikely that drastic gameplay changes to carriers will be possible in two months. What we are left with is a feature praised by some and loathed by others.

As the divide in the community continues to grow, even the most die hard fans and content creators of the game are fractured in their feelings towards the game’s direction. So, who here sees New Era as a tipping point for you? Conversely, who here loves the direction of FDev and hopes they keep at it?
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
The only thing that "tips" me are bugs that break the game, like I had back on PS4. Otherwise I don't "tip", I "fade" over time. This usually happens when I get bored with the lack of content, at which point another game like Space Engineers grabs my attention and ED remains untouched for 2-4 months. Then a new update or community event (RIP Interstellar Initiatives) draws me back into the game.

Fleet Carriers are not such content for me, so I my interest in ED is once again fading. I'm enjoying PvP piracy right now, but that won't last forever. My assumption is that New Era will have something compelling in it to draw me back, assuming Frontier doesn't turn ED into an entirely different game like NMS. Even if they do, there will be no rage quit, no uninstall, I'll just fade away, perhaps occasionally logging in for a cool VR experience from time to time.

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CMDR Nathan Atterlein

CMDR Nathan Atterlein
Elite going in a direction? I think finding beagle point from the bubble without galmap has higher probabilities than the dev team making a decision that would benefit all aspects of the game. I'm worried that the NE will fall flat, spent a year in this game, and I duckin love it, along with it's community. Experienced many similarly awesome games fade into obscurity because of the same disconnect, I do wish the carriers were only menu screens because the next paid content is that detailed and polished. If not, I'll probably keep going for a little while longer anyway, as long as the community holds.
 

Wrecked

Wrecked
CMDR Nathan Atterlein said:
Elite going in a direction? I think finding beagle point from the bubble without galmap has higher probabilities than the dev team making a decision that would benefit all aspects of the game. I'm worried that the NE will fall flat, spent a year in this game, and I duckin love it, along with it's community. Experienced many similarly awesome games fade into obscurity because of the same disconnect, I do wish the carriers were only menu screens because the next paid content is that detailed and polished. If not, I'll probably keep going for a little while longer anyway, as long as the community holds.
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Good pint, people who have less time invested in the game might have a perspective shaped differently than those who have been in since the beginning. If I had discovered this game a year ago, I could see my view being vastly different.
 

CMDR Nathan Atterlein

CMDR Nathan Atterlein
Wrecked said:
Good pint, people who have less time invested in the game might have a perspective shaped differently than those who have been in since the beginning. If I had discovered this game a year ago, I could see my view being vastly different.
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Yeah, haven't been around for gnosis, the cat and mouse of Salome, the old engineering. It was a pretty standstill time content-wise, had little expectations by default, too. FCs are the first major thing Im around for, and to be honest, I'm fine with what we're served with, will find a use for it for sure. But the missed potential is making me anxious when it comes to NE. The hype the new paid expansion's name suggest sounds increasingly hollow, even to me.
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
Wrecked said:
After a two and a half year development cycle, we have, realistically speaking, the 95% final form of fleet carriers. Given it took 2.5 years to get to this point, it seems very unlikely that drastic gameplay changes to carriers will be possible in two months. What we are left with is a feature praised by some and loathed by others.

As the divide in the community continues to grow, even the most die hard fans and content creators of the game are fractured in their feelings towards the game’s direction. So, who here sees New Era as a tipping point for you? Conversely, who here loves the direction of FDev and hopes they keep at it?
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The next Era will definitely be a tipping point for me, I have all but lost confidence in Fdev to make ED as good as it could be already but the end of the year will determine whether I leave ED completely behind or not.

As reply to your last question, no I don't like the direction Fdev is going with ED one bit.
 

Fibblesnork

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Sensei Jacksama said:
To quote Yamicks "all they had to do with fleet carriers was make them not suck. Mediocrity is all we wanted and they failed at that."
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But it is relative considering what you do, how you play and what you intend to do.

Personally speaking, carriers in their current form are not an accurate representation of "2 and a half years of work". Some reskinned menus and existing asset does not a significant update make. Instead, FDev are clearly testing the inclusion of persistant assets in-game, not just carriers but player bases which if the leaks are to be believed, we will be getting in our new era.
 

Astaran

Astaran
Hmmm...."tipping point" for what exactly? I'm not a purist who plays Elite as the one and only game in the Steam library.

At the moment I enjoy Elite. It's that simple. The scale, the exploration, the visuals, the atmosphere...there just isn't any other game out there that offers me the same feeling. With or without New Era. I still don't play Elite 24/7 or as my "primary" game though. I play it when I feel like it. If I don't feel like it, I just play something else. Over the last couple of months it was Bannerlord, Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, Cities: Skylines, Stellaris. Just to name a few. As you see, I'm not even invested in the "genre", so the argument "But Star Citizen isn't even finished yet" or "But NMS is a different game!" don't really applies to me. I play games for enjoyment.

So, I while I do have some hopes for New Era and although I do hope it's going to live up to the hype, I am also "relaxed" about it. If it fails to deliver, I'm just not going to buy it. Simple as that. Either I play Elite every now and then in it's current state and ignore the "new stuff"...or I just move on. You see, I used to love the X-Universe. X-Beyond the Frontier and X-Tension were the first videogame franchise I ever really bought into and I think the franchise peaked with X3-Terran Conflict. Rebirth sucked and I hated it. When X4 was released I took a look at it (via the family share option on steam)...and decided that I don't like it enough to spend money on it. I don't have any particular grudges or feelings regarding X4. I'm simply not interested in it anymore and moved on. Maybe I'll pick it up one day for a 75%+ discount. Or I won't. The same would happen with "New Era". If it delivers: Cool, I'm game. If it doesn't deliver: Who knows? Maybe I'll pick it up in a year or two on a discount and give Elite another try. Or I just do what I always do when videogames aren't fun anymore: I move on.
 

Sensei Jacksama

Sensei Jacksama
Fibblesnork said:
But it is relative considering what you do, how you play and what you intend to do.

Personally speaking, carriers in their current form are not an accurate representation of "2 and a half years of work". Some reskinned menus and existing asset does not a significant update make. Instead, FDev are clearly testing the inclusion of persistant assets in-game, not just carriers but player bases which if the leaks are to be believed, we will be getting in our new era.
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He was referring to the upkeep and decommissioning not the actual usefulness of it.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Been playing for 4 years and am still enjoying the game as it still lets me do what I bought it for.
Fleet Carriers are probably not going to affect me significantly as I don’t see them enhancing how I play, but there are several bits of the game that I can happily ignore such as Squadrons and Power Play so FCs might well join them.
I do have concerns about New Era mainly of it introducing scripted stories and plot lines that have to be fairly rigidly followed which are not what I bought the game for.

But there is no point getting stressed about what might happen more than half a year in the future the developers will release what they want to and if that changes the game more than I am comfortable playing I might have to find something else to play.
 

kilvenny

kilvenny
I have played once, for half an hour, since the fleet carriers price was announced, despite being in lock down and having lots more time. I just haven't felt the itch. That's the first time since the original beta. FC's for me was a double whammy, first it was for me unobtainable content, but secondly it's not even attractive to interact with as a visitor.

Flying in VR is awesome, so I know at some point I will come back, but that thread of attachment to the game has been broken. For the first time I need something to rekindle the magic.
 

zombieapocalypse

zombieapocalypse
Sensei Jacksama said:
To quote Yamicks "all they had to do with fleet carriers was make them not suck. Mediocrity is all we wanted and they failed at that."
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I didn't realise that Yamiks spoke for us all. :D Also, people need to learn to form their own opinions and stop looking to influencers and content creators to guide them.

That said, I do think that New Era will be a make or break moment for a lot of folks. It will be 6 years since the game launched and people who've clocked thousands of hours in the game will naturally be tiring of the game and wanting something new and fresh to incentivise them to keep playing. And I include myself in that.
 

Curtis R. Prophett

Curtis R. Prophett
I have been playing this game from almost the beginning and I still really love it. The challenge lately has been finding new, interesting goals to set for myself, because I've done almost everything that I have wanted to do. FCs have changed that and have given me a new set of goals, which has reinvigorated my interest.

Concerning the new era, I am taking a very wait and see approach. None of the leaked features are actually things that I am personally interested in, so I'll wait and see if anything actually piques my curiosity when the new direction is officially revealed. If nothing does, then I am content to keep playing Elite the way that I have always done. I'll be disappointed, but the base experience of Elite is something that has always just really worked for me.

That said, I would love to see more added that would expand my personal experience. I really want to be able to explore gas giants and atmospheric planets, but that's just because my tastes lean heavily towards seeing the wonders of the Universe. The game is so many different things to so many different people though. I do not really envy Frontier's task, and this can be a very thankless community a lot of the time.
 

Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
Old Duck said:
BTW, there is something that may likely "tip" me away from Elite, and it just so happens to coincide with New Era. Two things to be precise:
1) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
2) Starbase (this one is a bit more speculative)
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Been watching Starbase since it was announced! Can't wait!
 
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