For the love of god will somebody fix Robigo

[GabrielFeroz]

This is getting ridiculous. You have people pulling out 20-50Mil per hour out of that station and then heading down to Tun and pulling out Rear Admiral rank in less than 3 days.

You should NOT be able to buy an anaconda/corvette/cutter in a week!

This solo to open exploit is really getting out of hand. You have tons of people running around with hundreds of millions of credits that did nothing but Robigo to get it. The other day I saw a NOVICE pilot in a corvette who had no idea what even a cell bank was. Come on, really? This needs to be fixed along with all the other long range and donation mission exploits.

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Obviously no one here understands what I'm saying when I mention the Robigo exploit. I didn't wan't to post hot to do it because too many people already use it. But, since everyone thinks I'm attacking the high paying missions I'll explain.

Step one - Fly to Robigo
Step two - Pick up the shadow missions
Step three - abandon said shadow missions
Step four - Sell slaves to the station
Step five - swap from open to solo
Repeat steps one through five until you're rich

You don't even have to leave the pad.

You are an idiot if you think this isn't an exploit.

LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN

I don't mind having rare high paying missions within the game. I don't mind shadow missions being in the game. I think you should be able to get some high paying missions once in a while.

I AM NOT POSTING ABOUT COMPLETING THE MISSIONS

This post is here because people are abusing the solo to open exploit to gain HUNDREDS of FREE slaves and sell them to the station for MILLIONS in profit.

 

[DanaM]

This needs to be fixed along with all the other long range and donation mission exploits.

Forgive my ignorance, but if the game gives you a mission and you complete it, is that really an "exploit?"

And I agree with you. They've gotta fix it. As soon as I get my Cutter. And a Corvette. And A-rate them. Yes, then they definitely should get rid of them.

 

[GabrielFeroz]

Forgive my ignorance, but if the game gives you a mission and you complete it, is that really an "exploit?"

And I agree with you. They've gotta fix it. As soon as I get my Cutter. And a Corvette. And A-rate them. Yes, then they definitely should get rid of them.

The exploit isn't the missions. I don't mind the missions. The problem is when you can pick up those missions from swapping between solo and open and you get like 30 worth 20-50Mil and then go turn them all in.

 

[CTCParadox]

Who cares? Does it affect your game? They just unlocked some ships quicker.
The BGS threw up an odd, profitable combination of missions (much like Cubeo), people use it.
If this was EVE then sure it needs to be fixed, but there's no player economy in Elite anyway.

CMDR CTCParadox

 

[GabrielFeroz]

Who cares? Does it affect your game? They just unlocked some ships quicker.
The BGS threw up an odd, profitable combination of missions (much like Cubeo), people use it.
If this was EVE then sure it needs to be fixed, but there's no player economy in Elite anyway.

CMDR CTCParadox

As someone who farmed out the money and rep the hard way before the ships update even came out, yes it does affect my game. Those people don't deserve to be flying some of the best ships in the game a week after they started flying. It's cheating and it needs to be fixed.

 

[X-Terminator]

20 to 50 million in an hour haha yeah right. Try it!

 

[JohnnyDangerous]

This is getting ridiculous. You have people pulling out 20-50Mil per hour out of that station and then heading down to Tun and pulling out Rear Admiral rank in less than 3 days.

You should NOT be able to buy an anaconda/corvette/cutter in a week!

This solo to open exploit is really getting out of hand. You have tons of people running around with hundreds of millions of credits that did nothing but Robigo to get it. The other day I saw a NOVICE pilot in a corvette who had no idea what even a cell bank was. Come on, really? This needs to be fixed along with all the other long range and donation mission exploits.

I teach people to fly airplanes. The guy renting my hangar bought a 6 seat twin turbo and wants to learn to fly in it. He doesn't even know what an HSI is, and bought a plane I can't afford, even though I've been flying since 1987. That's not fair either, but so what? Long Haul smuggling missions are profitable because they are illegal. I could fly cocaine out of Mexico a few times and make as much as I have made over my whole life. The difference in that ED has no PENALTIES in it. Sure, you get "wanted" in a system, maybe, but nothing substantial that makes a criminal lifestyle unappealing. That's the true issue.

 

[metatheurgist]

Yep, bugs me that they stamped out Bounty Hunting missions but have left this sore to fester for so long.

 

[DragoonKnight]

I teach people to fly airplanes. The guy renting my hangar bought a 6 seat twin turbo and wants to learn to fly in it. He doesn't even know what an HSI is, and bought a plane I can't afford, even though I've been flying since 1987. That's not fair either, but so what? Long Haul smuggling missions are profitable because they are illegal. I could fly cocaine out of Mexico a few times and make as much as I have made over my whole life. The difference in that ED has no PENALTIES in it. Sure, you get "wanted" in a system, maybe, but nothing substantial that makes a criminal lifestyle unappealing. That's the true issue.

Hope he does better than the clowns that show up with a 911 (very forgiving car) to the track and after half a dozen days or so want to buy a 911 GT2 (a lot less forgiving). Cause you know, they feel like they've "got the hang of this racing thing" after 10-20 hours of track time.

 

[Psycho Romeo]

Who cares? Does it affect your game?

The content of your post is absurd. They affect my universe, therefore they affect my game.

 

[CTCParadox]

As someone who farmed out the money and rep the hard way before the ships update even came out, yes it does affect my game. Those people don't deserve to be flying some of the best ships in the game a week after they started flying. It's cheating and it needs to be fixed.

You didn't state how it affects your game, you just said it annoys you cause they dodged the grind.


CMDR CTCParadox

 

[Quantis Trap]

For the love of ... stop calling everything an exploit!

I've never tried this Robigo so called exploit, but this post has gotten me interested in doing so! It don't need to money. It just sounds like fun!

 

[GabrielFeroz]

You didn't state how it affects your game, you just said it annoys you cause they dodged the grind.


CMDR CTCParadox

You just made my point. How is it fair that people can go to Robigo and get enough to buy an Anaconda in a single day when everyone else has to grind for a Month or more to get it.

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20 to 50 million in an hour haha yeah right. Try it!

You can easily pull in 50Mil an hour with a python. I've seen it done.

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For the love of ... stop calling everything an exploit!

I've never tried this Robigo so called exploit, but this post has gotten me interested in doing so! It don't need to money. It just sounds like fun!

So wait, you don't know what the Robigo exploit is yet you tell me not to call everything an exploit? Sorry but it is an EXPLOIT.

 

[CTCParadox]

You just made my point. How is it fair that people can go to Robigo and get enough to buy an Anaconda in a single day when everyone else has to grind for a Month or more to get it.

The market changed, opportunities opened up in Robigo and players took it. Why does it have to be fair?
I actually agree that Robigo is excessive and exacerbated by the total lack of meaningful punishments for illegal activity in Elite.
However if we go around stamping down anytime the BGS throws a profitable situation up we may as well just remove it.

CMDR CTCParadox

 

[Quantis Trap]

I teach people to fly airplanes. The guy renting my hangar bought a 6 seat twin turbo and wants to learn to fly in it. He doesn't even know what an HSI is, and bought a plane I can't afford, even though I've been flying since 1987. That's not fair either, but so what? Long Haul smuggling missions are profitable because they are illegal. I could fly cocaine out of Mexico a few times and make as much as I have made over my whole life. The difference in that ED has no PENALTIES in it. Sure, you get "wanted" in a system, maybe, but nothing substantial that makes a criminal lifestyle unappealing. That's the true issue.

Hehe, ... no PENALTIES for it ... ED has penalties out the ying yang compared to other games. It cracks me up when people compare games to real life. People flock to games to escape real life long term consequences, but ED has done a really good job of giving the sense of real consequences without actually dispatching the police to your door.

 

[GabrielFeroz]

The market changed, opportunities opened up in Robigo and players took it. Why does it have to be fair?
I actually agree that Robigo is excessive and exacerbated by the total lack of meaningful punishments for illegal activity in Elite.
However if we go around stamping down anytime the BGS throws a profitable situation up we may as well just remove it.

CMDR CTCParadox

There is a difference between 'Profitable' and an exploit. People can jump from solo to open and back to pick up tons of million dollar missions that are supposed to be RARE and turn in donations to rank up through the navy and get extremely fast progress. I don't have a problem with the missions. There should be rare high paying missions that you can do. But it is NOT necessary to be able to stack 10+ 3Mil missions and go turn them all in inside of an hour.

 

[CTCParadox]

There is a difference between 'Profitable' and an exploit. People can jump from solo to open and back to pick up tons of million dollar missions that are supposed to be RARE and turn in donations to rank up through the navy and get extremely fast progress. I don't have a problem with the missions. There should be rare high paying missions that you can do. But it is NOT necessary to be able to stack 10+ 3Mil missions and go turn them all in inside of an hour.

The whole donations for Navy rank thing is ridiculous, I 100% agree with that.
I wonder what the technical reason for switching modes spawning new missions is?
I do the same thing at Cubeo, though it's nowhere near as profitable as Robigo.

CMDR CTCParadox

 

[DragoonKnight]

So wait, you don't know what the Robigo exploit is yet you tell me not to call everything an exploit? Sorry but it is an EXPLOIT.

I tried it. Hardly an exploit. An exploit would be something that is on the level of cheating and not intended by the devs.
Robigo is clearly within the framework of the rules laid out by the devs and if it was considered an exploit by the devs, it would have already been patched.
If Robigo bothers you that much then go collect some unknown artifacts and shut it down.
Oh right, that would require some work on your part and we cant have that.

 

[GabrielFeroz]

I tried it. Hardly an exploit. An exploit would be something that is on the level of cheating and not intended by the devs.
Robigo is clearly within the framework of the rules laid out by the devs and if it was considered an exploit by the devs, it would have already been patched.
If Robigo bothers you that much then go collect some unknown artifacts and shut it down.
Oh right, that would require some work on your part and we cant have that.

Are you kidding me? HOW IS IT NOT AN EXPLOIT? You go from solo to open picking up missions, then after you collect the missions you abandon them and sell the slaves. Rinse and repeat.

HOW IS THIS NOT AN EXPLOIT?!!!

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Oh and then you can go to Tun and do the same thing until you are Rear Admiral and bam a new player is in a corvette who doesn't even know how to fly. How are you that you think that is something that should be in the game.

Oh right, you're just defending it because you're one of the people exploiting this.

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You don't even have to leave the         pad to pull in millions. But no, you're right. That is how the game was meant to be played.

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

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