Astronomy / Space Found: a black hole 12bn times the size of the sun

[KulKulcan]

Dark matter and dark energy are the best guess we have atm. But it wouldn't be the first time for us to invent something so the "observable" can come to (relative) peace with the current mainstream theories - which later turns out to be false.

Guess? Are you sure you want to categorize the science like that?

This is a rather more intangible approach to the same problems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstring_theory

If I were to root for a path along the route to the Theory of Everything it would be Superstring. It is just so mind bending and elegant. A good place to begin reading on that is ""The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory" by Brian Greene

 

[Surfinjo]

If I were to root for a path along the route to the Theory of Everything it would be Superstring. It is just so mind bending and elegant. A good place to begin reading on that is ""The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory" by Brian Greene

I tend to think the same frankly.

Dark Matter has the advantage of being apparently more tangible. Something that is there but invisible.

I recall an Episode of Stat Trek, NG, where they came across a spaghetti like structure in space and Data speculated it was dense super string!

I've read Hawking's book on Superstring theory and read again, the Wikipedia write up. I confess, it is very complicated, not least because both Hawking and Wikipedia have a habit of referencing other, often exotic notions in passing without, seemingly, realising that Humble mortals such as I don't know what they are either! But given time I'll work toward it, perhaps just in time for the next big theory to come along and knock this one onto the same shelf as Aether.

I'll chekc out that book. Thanks for the tip. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elegant-Uni...uest+for+the+Ultimate+Theory"+by+Brian+Greene

 

[Cargobane]

the advantage of being apparently more tangible. Something that is there but invisible.

Talk about a paradox. -0=

 

[Surfinjo]

Talk about a paradox. -0=

Dark Matter is tangible in that it can be imagined, even though it is in fact, invisible. A dark physical force out there!!

Try incorporating a one dimensional relationship of supersymmetric particles into an episode of Star Trek. I think Data would explode.

But with that prospect, perhaps we should try! Might be fun.

 

[Cargobane]

That's hilarious. Do you listen to what you said. It is tangible because it can be imagined. It's an imaginary invisible force. Just like black holes, so I guess it makes sense in that case.

To Infinity and Beyond

 

[Surfinjo]

That's hilarious. Do you listen to what you said. It is tangible because it can be imagined. It's an imaginary invisible force. Just like black holes, so I guess it makes sense in that case.

To Infinity and Beyond

It's rather sad that your intellect isn't up to your obvious sense of humour.

A Klingon is tangible because it can be imagined. A Balroc in tangible because it can be imagined.

A two dimensional relationship of supersymmetric particles? Your good manners? Perhaps a bit more tricky.

 

[Cargobane]

Maybe your idea of tangible is different from mine.

 

[Slo-Mo-Shun]

Tangible, intangible, doesn't really matter. You both write well and make good reading.

 

[Surly_Badger]

What's next? Dark Gravity?

It is by its gravity effects that dark matter and dark energy are known to exist. So there is already plenty of dark gravity.

It is tangible because it can be imagined.

Wow! A real live postmodernist! In the wild, not in the philosophy department of some French university!! Amazing!!

Things that can be imagined are "tangible" to the extent that the ideas imagining them exist atop the substrate that is our brains. I.e.: when you think of a unicorn, that means you really are having thoughts about unicorns. It doesn't mean unicorns do or don't exist - it just means you have thoughts.

 

[Cargobane]

My Dear Badger,
What led you to revive such a derelict thread. Especially only to agree that the ideas of Black Holes are no better then Unicorns. Thanks.

 

[Patrick_68000]

We are really microscopic, us and our galaxy. The article adds a modification. It is not the size (12 billion times our sun) but the mass

 

[Syntherios]

However is it 12.8bn LY away in the real universe!

Out of sheer curiosity, I did the math for how long it would take for one of us to get there in ED, if it were possible (i.e. a steady line of stars between our galaxy and the distant galaxy).

The distance to Sgr A* is roughly 26,000Ly from Sol, and the fastest time anyone has covered that distance was about 13 hours (that record may have been broken, I don't know). So that's about 2,000Ly per hour. Covering the 12.8 billion year distance at that same speed would equate to 6.4 million hours, or about 730.6 years of in-game time.

...Unless I screwed up the math somewhere. I've been known to do that. Feel free to check my numbers lul.

 

[Surfinjo]

Out of sheer curiosity, I did the math for how long it would take for one of us to get there in ED, if it were possible (i.e. a steady line of stars between our galaxy and the distant galaxy).

The distance to Sgr A* is roughly 26,000Ly from Sol, and the fastest time anyone has covered that distance was about 13 hours (that record may have been broken, I don't know). So that's about 2,000Ly per hour. Covering the 12.8 billion year distance at that same speed would equate to 6.4 million hours, or about 730.6 years of in-game time.

...Unless I screwed up the math somewhere. I've been known to do that. Feel free to check my numbers lul.

Presumably you factored in the fuel scoop?

Having found myself in deep space without fuel on more than one occasion I can confirm just how htta really does ruin your day.

 

[Syntherios]

Presumably you factored in the fuel scoop?

Yes, fuel scooping has been taken into account. If the person who made it to Sgr A* in 13 hours did it without scooping, then that person clearly modded the game. It would take 730.6 years of in-game time to reach the black hole OP mentioned--fuel scooping included.