Frame Rate Tip

For those of you playing on a Smart TV, here's a tip you might not know. If your TV supports Frame Interpolation (also called Motion Interpolation), this can improve your gaming experience on games like ED. There are definitely a couple of caveats, however.

You'll have to research your own TV on how to enable this feature. I had a Vizio that would increase frame rate to 120 FPS. I think some TVs can do 240 FPS, though I wonder if there is some "marketing magic" behind this number. Regardless, the frame rate increase is real. This creates the infamous "Soap Opera" effect, which people have a love / hate relationship with. It's not so good for movies, but it can look really good applied to most video games. FI not only smooths out motion, but it has a side-effect of reducing aliasing (less jaggies).

The big caveat is that it takes time to process the signal, and that introduces latency between what you do and what you see. Some games are more sensitive to this than others. The actual amount of latency will depend on your TV.

The other caveat is that this won't work miracles - if you're only inputting 30 FPS to the TV and you're flying herky-jerky, the final picture will still look herky-jerky. However, smoother flight that creates less differential between frames can really benefit from motion interpolation.

I've used this feature for racing games and flight sims, and it greatly improved my image quality! This is subjective, as some people are more sensitive to frame rate than others, but it's worth a try. If you don't like it, put your TV back into gaming mode, no harm done.

ps - I believe PSVR actually uses frame interpolation to achieve the 90 FPS minimum required to avoid motion sickness.
 
Just an amendment to original post - some TVs, like my old Visio, made it easy to toggle back and forth between game mode (no post-processing, no latency) and FI (high post-processing, latency). This is handy because you may want 120 FPS FI when exploring and enjoying the view, whereas intense combat may demand the no / low latency of game mode.
 
For those of you playing on a Smart TV, here's a tip you might not know. If your TV supports Frame Interpolation (also called Motion Interpolation), this can improve your gaming experience on games like ED. There are definitely a couple of caveats, however.

You'll have to research your own TV on how to enable this feature. I had a Vizio that would increase frame rate to 120 FPS. I think some TVs can do 240 FPS, though I wonder if there is some "marketing magic" behind this number. Regardless, the frame rate increase is real. This creates the infamous "Soap Opera" effect, which people have a love / hate relationship with. It's not so good for movies, but it can look really good applied to most video games. FI not only smooths out motion, but it has a side-effect of reducing aliasing (less jaggies).

The big caveat is that it takes time to process the signal, and that introduces latency between what you do and what you see. Some games are more sensitive to this than others. The actual amount of latency will depend on your TV.

The other caveat is that this won't work miracles - if you're only inputting 30 FPS to the TV and you're flying herky-jerky, the final picture will still look herky-jerky. However, smoother flight that creates less differential between frames can really benefit from motion interpolation.

I've used this feature for racing games and flight sims, and it greatly improved my image quality! This is subjective, as some people are more sensitive to frame rate than others, but it's worth a try. If you don't like it, put your TV back into gaming mode, no harm done.

ps - I believe PSVR actually uses frame interpolation to achieve the 90 FPS minimum required to avoid motion sickness.
To note, TV interpolation is known to increase input lag, depending on your TV model. But you do not get this for free.

PS VR and other VR devices use a kind of interpolation but it is significantly different in how it works and generally does not cause input lag.
 
I believe the PS4 Pro FPS is 60 - wouldnt it do just to match the two figures?

If ED is 60 FPS, that's good enough for me. If it's only 30 FPS, which it may well be on the Slim, then this trick will help compensate for that. It may only be 30 FPS on Pro when running at 4K. Only time will tell!
 
To note, TV interpolation is known to increase input lag, depending on your TV model. But you do not get this for free.

PS VR and other VR devices use a kind of interpolation but it is significantly different in how it works and generally does not cause input lag.

Lag, latency, tomato, tomaato
 
That is one feature i turn off on every tv i watch (even my friends!). It is useless for gaming, and just adds horrible artifacting by adding in extra frames it thinks improve the picture. Just avoid it, get the purest, non-interfered with, picture you can.
 
That is one feature i turn off on every tv i watch (even my friends!). It is useless for gaming, and just adds horrible artifacting by adding in extra frames it thinks improve the picture. Just avoid it, get the purest, non-interfered with, picture you can.

Yeah, a good point, much of that interpolation tech is made to predict certain behaviour and correct for it, it really isn't made for the type of things a game or similar would show.
 
Source? Or are you not talking Elite Dangerous now?

Specs on the PS4 Pro. Its mentioned in this article - but way at the end..

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/ps4-pro-vs-ps4

I also posted about it on another thread I can't quite seem to find right now...

Its not the FPS of the game but the FPS of the console - so my question is - is boosting the FPS on the TV going to make any difference if the FPS from the console is at 60FPS?

Edit: ooh here too...https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/
 
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stormyuk

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Specs on the PS4 Pro.

Its not the FPS of the game but the FPS of the console - so my question is - is boosting the FPS on the TV going to make any difference if the FPS from the console is at 60FPS?

Edit: ooh here too...https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/

Yeh the console has great potential. However I guess my point was FDev have not said anything about what the Elite Dangerous frame rates on the PS4 or the PS4 Pro are like. So we won't know what we get until a) they tell us or b) someone like Digital Foundry does an analysis.

As for TV's boosting your FPS, sounds like snake oil to me. I agree, boosting at the TV to 9000 FPS when the console is doing 15FPS isn't going to help anyone and is probably going to end in an ugly mess.
 
For those of you playing on a Smart TV, here's a tip you might not know. If your TV supports Frame Interpolation (also called Motion Interpolation), this can improve your gaming experience on games like ED. There are definitely a couple of caveats, however.

You'll have to research your own TV on how to enable this feature. I had a Vizio that would increase frame rate to 120 FPS. I think some TVs can do 240 FPS, though I wonder if there is some "marketing magic" behind this number. Regardless, the frame rate increase is real. This creates the infamous "Soap Opera" effect, which people have a love / hate relationship with. It's not so good for movies, but it can look really good applied to most video games. FI not only smooths out motion, but it has a side-effect of reducing aliasing (less jaggies).

The big caveat is that it takes time to process the signal, and that introduces latency between what you do and what you see. Some games are more sensitive to this than others. The actual amount of latency will depend on your TV.

The other caveat is that this won't work miracles - if you're only inputting 30 FPS to the TV and you're flying herky-jerky, the final picture will still look herky-jerky. However, smoother flight that creates less differential between frames can really benefit from motion interpolation.

I've used this feature for racing games and flight sims, and it greatly improved my image quality! This is subjective, as some people are more sensitive to frame rate than others, but it's worth a try. If you don't like it, put your TV back into gaming mode, no harm done.

ps - I believe PSVR actually uses frame interpolation to achieve the 90 FPS minimum required to avoid motion sickness.

Indeed, i use this on my UHD tv as well, but only for Elite.

If i play Battlefield i have to turn it off. It looks really nice, but the latency killed me a lot.. you just need those few milliseconds to duck away.. lol

So, for Elite, yes, i use it. But as soon as i switch games, i turn on "game mode" Thankfully its only a one button press on my tv.
 
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