Free camera issues... Can you help please?

Susanna

Susanna
I and a friend have been spending hours trying to setup the free camera view. We are using different hotas (mine is a thrustmaster 16000m fsc). But regardless what I do, when I enter free camera view the SRV takes off at full throttle (or backwards if reserse is set). The only way I can stop this from happening if I put the handbrake on.

Seems this is bugged to me.

Any suggestions. Happy to provide a link to my bindings if this helps sort this out.

Thanks Susie
 
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Susanna

Susanna
Obsidian Ant said:
The way I have gotten around this is to ensure the forward axis for the camera is on a separate binding to the throttle on the SRV. Not ideal, but it does work.
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Thanks obsidian ant, I'll give that a go tomorrow...

I have paddles on the thrustmaster throttle so I'll try to bind these to forward and reverse.

Much appreciate your help :D
 
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Alex Brentnall

Alex Brentnall
I had this on my ship and it took me embarrassingly long to work out why too :)

Check the SRV, Ship and Camera throttle bindings. I'd bet that one of those is different to the others and has full range rather than forwards only. I generally use forwards only so everytime I swapped to camera I'd pull a full on reverse thrust burn as 0% throttle equalled -100% :S


I may be wrong and there is a bug or poor implementation thing as I haven't camera'd in the SRV yet but that was my issue. OA has a solution that works regardless of what the issue is so that's probably the way to go. Thought I'd share in case its the same issue though.
 

fossil

F
Obsidian Ant said:
The way I have gotten around this is to ensure the forward axis for the camera is on a separate binding to the throttle on the SRV. Not ideal, but it does work.
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Strange one - I use a Thrustmaster t-flight Hotas-x and my throttle bindings are all the same - for ship, SRV and camera. I'm a simple chap - I can't remember different bindings. Anyway - I had no problems setting up the new camera. It must be a bug related to certain HOTASes. I did wonder if its related to the FCS having an analogue hat on the throttle which is obviously "FULL RANGE" as opposed to "FORWARD ONLY" for the main FCS throttle. I might be interesting to change the main FCS thottle to FULL RANGE just to test this theory.

Fossil
 

Martian Successor

Martian Successor
I haven't encountered this problem. I use a Thrustmaster T-flight Hotas X and I used this video to help me set up the bindings:

https://youtu.be/0_y5Jtx_6nw

Since the x52 Pro has different button configurations to my Hotas I used it only as a rough guide but it did the trick in steering me in the right direction and now I can control the free camera in the same way as the previous debug cam.

Give it a watch and see if it offers any helpful suggestions for you.
 
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SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Obsidian Ant said:
The way I have gotten around this is to ensure the forward axis for the camera is on a separate binding to the throttle on the SRV. Not ideal, but it does work.
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Yeah, that's what I've had to do too. Haven't tried it in SRV, but in the ship, if you try to unbind the axis from the camera, it just says to default to the ship controls.

I'm fortunate to have another axis to use (also T16000m hotas). With just the stick, it would be worse.

I'm hoping for a camera/vehicle control toggle to be added into settings.
 

Susanna

Susanna
Another couple of hours of testing this morning - still to no avail. Whether I put separate bindings for the Camera Forward/Back movement or not (I tried using the paddle behind the Thrustmaster throttle for this) but it doesn't seem to make any difference whatever I use this or not.

Here is a video showing the bindings and the resultant Free Camera behaviour.

[video=youtube_share;OugMgCHNd2c]https://youtu.be/OugMgCHNd2c[/video]

My bindings can be found here: https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/pfmguq

You can download my Custom.2.0.binds file from the above link as well so that you can see the issue first hand if you have a T.16000M FCS hotas...

EDIT: I have now tested this in flight (same Free Camera issue with it moving forwards) and while on a planet in an SRV. The SRV now remains stationary (something it wan't doing yesterday!) but the camera still flys forwards ...

Sigh...

From what has been posted on the Forum here so far, it sounds like I'm stick with this bug! Any Other suggestions would be MOST WELCOME!!!
 
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Mephane

Mephane
Obsidian Ant said:
The way I have gotten around this is to ensure the forward axis for the camera is on a separate binding to the throttle on the SRV. Not ideal, but it does work.
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Please tell me more about the hidden 3rd and 4th axis on my mouse. :)

Seriously though, the camera suite screws you royally if you don't have a dual stick gamepad or a HOTAS with a hat.
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
I've mapped the camera controls to a spare xbox controller I had knocking around (rather than try to map the controls to my HOTAS).

They're pretty cheap to pick up, and I'm gradually coming to like this solution.

The new camera suite I found was a bit overwhelming to start with, but a bit of perseverance has paid off.
 
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FlyByNight

FlyByNight
Susanna said:
Another couple of hours of testing this morning - still to no avail. Whether I put separate bindings for the Camera Forward/Back movement or not (I tried using the paddle behind the Thrustmaster throttle for this) but it doesn't seem to make any difference whatever I use this or not.

Here is a video showing the bindings and the resultant Free Camera behaviour.

https://youtu.be/OugMgCHNd2c

My bindings can be found here: https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/pfmguq

You can download my Custom.2.0.binds file from the above link as well so that you can see the issue first hand if you have a T.16000M FCS hotas...

EDIT: I have now tested this in flight (same Free Camera issue with it moving forwards) and while on a planet in an SRV. The SRV now remains stationary (something it wan't doing yesterday!) but the camera still flys forwards ...

Sigh...

From what has been posted on the Forum here so far, it sounds like I'm stick with this bug! Any Other suggestions would be MOST WELCOME!!!
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Hi Susanna

I am using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro with throttle bindings for Ship, SRV and Free Camera all set to Forward only, and I've encountered exactly the same issues you descibe.

The workaround I stumbled across is to un-bind the throttle for the Free Camera and although it is un-bound, set the 'Throttle Axis Range' to Full Range. I can then control the camera with the arrow keys bound to the 'Forward','Backward','Right','Left' bindings.

I found that this will stop the Vehicle and/or Camera moving when in Free Camera Mode if the Throttle input on my stick is set to 0% input. I can then move the camera with the bound arrow keys.

If you do increase the throttle on the stick, the vehicle starts to move, although you're supposed to be in Free Camera Mode. This must either be a bug or some sort of conflict in my bindings, so I have also submitted a bug report.

I hope this may be of some help.
 

Neutronium

Neutronium
I have an X-52 Pro Controller and have exactly the same issue.
The strange thing is that this weird / bugged behavior didn't start from the moment I mapped the controller's throttle axis to forward only free camera motion. It started sometime during the weekend. I remember doing some minor changes to the camera suit & free camera bindings in the options > controls game menu during this time but nothing related to the throttle axis.
Fortunately I am not the only one experiencing this bug. So it is (hopefully) not my controllers fault. Also this acceleration occurs for both the ship and the SRV. I remember once I tried to take some pics of my Cobra near a star and I ended up forced-exiting SC because the GDmn ship started accelerating towards the star..
 

KulKulcan

KulKulcan
T160000m hotas setup, same issue and as nuetronium stated this behavior was not present when I first mapped the camera.
 
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