Freezing/Crashing of game inside stations. Messed nVidia drivers? HELP!

Armante

Armante
So the game occasionally crashes on me, which I think is somehow related to my system more than anything.

I (stupidly) upgraded to the latest nVidia drivers 347.09 and I had more frequent crashes and freezes on my Geforce 670 GTX than normal. I had applied its recommended settings of mostly high, ambient occlusion on, SMAA etc, and it looks great, getting around 50-60 fps, but the lockups were annoying. So i dropped a few settings back to medium, off etc, but still had problems. I rolled back to the 344.48 drivers, but I'm still having the same problem, and more crashes than I used to when using these drivers before?! :/

Almost all problems are inside stations, which I suppose makes sense as that is when the system is rendering the most detail.. I also lock up when on the bulletin board and commodities screen sometimes. The game still renders the background then too, right?

Anyway.. Anyone have a bright idea as to how to solve this? Do I need to completely uninstall the drivers somehow? I so, how?

Any help appreciated! I really miss playing, as right now it's crashing all the time :(
 

bambam_ofc

bambam_ofc
lol that was a 1 hour 30 bump...

It doesn't sound like it's your driver. If you haven't already, install MSI Afterburner and you can check your temps. Play the game, alt-tab out of it and look at the graphs. Or maybe *downclock* the card by 100Mhz and see. Or downclock the memory on the card. In the meantime you could suck it up and set everything in the game to LOW so you can work up from there instead of creeping things back.
 

Ruskodisco

Ruskodisco
i very much doubt its your computer i experience the same exact problems with locking at the starport services while background goes on its either something with the patch or its their servers.
you should definitely be able to play elite on max settings with your setup.
do you also experience rubberbanding around stations too?
 

Skillet

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So you have diagnosed it to locking up when your system works harder (rendering inside stations). So you need to what BamBam suggested and check both your GPU and CPU temps. Also you might try opening up your case to more air flow, even a portable table fan blowing inside the case for a while to see if that makes a difference. I don't think its your drivers either nor a bug in the game. If the temps are good and the added air flow make no difference, download a free version of 3Dmark and run some stress tests, if it fails you may need a new GPU, but borrow one if you can first. If it passes, then contact support, maybe they can help.
 
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Armante

Armante
bambam_ofc said:
lol that was a 1 hour 30 bump...

It doesn't sound like it's your driver. If you haven't already, install MSI Afterburner and you can check your temps. Play the game, alt-tab out of it and look at the graphs. Or maybe *downclock* the card by 100Mhz and see. Or downclock the memory on the card. In the meantime you could suck it up and set everything in the game to LOW so you can work up from there instead of creeping things back.
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Well it fell off the front page, and I figured no-one was going to see it ;)

Thanks for the link and tip on checking the temperature - it is summer down here after all. Could def be an overheating issue.

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livvinrussian said:
i very much doubt its your computer i experience the same exact problems with locking at the starport services while background goes on its either something with the patch or its their servers.
you should definitely be able to play elite on max settings with your setup.
do you also experience rubberbanding around stations too?
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On a couple of occasions when I've seen other CMDRs they did rubberband a bit - instead of flying in a straight line they sort of skipped in a dot-dot-dot sort of way. (that even make sense?! :) )

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Skillet said:
So you have diagnosed it to locking up when your system works harder (rendering inside stations). So you need to what BamBam suggested and check both your GPU and CPU temps. Also you might try opening up your case to more air flow, even a portable table fan blowing inside the case for a while to see if that makes a difference. I don't think its your drivers either nor a bug in the game. If the temps are good and the added air flow make no difference, download a free version of 3Dmark and run some stress tests, if it fails you may need a new GPU, but borrow one if you can first. If it passes, then contact support, maybe they can help.
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Thanks for that. Last time I used a deskfan was way back when I overclocked my intel celeron 300 ;)
I've got a copy of 3dmark so can try that too
 

Armante

Armante
adoredtv said:
If you want a clean install of drivers, try this out. Replace "AMD" with "Nvidia" and you should be completely wiped free of all driver-related aberrations from both companies, hopefully.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=71779&p=1189944&viewfull=1#post1189944
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Thanks for that.

I just ran furmark as a quick test, and see the temp climbs right up into the low 90's, out of 99'C - OUCH - so overheating could be a definite issue. Have removed side of case and added small deskfan. Will see if that improves matters!
 

Antmax

Antmax
The one time I was having problems with my new video card I used the Display driver uninstaller utility mentioned above. Reinstalled the latest drivers and all my problems went away. In my case it was the drivers shutting down leaving a black screen with the game still playing in the background lol.

Sometimes things get left behind when you do a regular uninstall or overwrite existing drivers and strange things manifest themselves which are hard to track down. So definately worth a try.

The Uninstaller util boots into safe mode before uninstalling are removes all traces. Has worked well for me in the past.
 

Armante

Armante
Antmax said:
The one time I was having problems with my new video card I used the Display driver uninstaller utility mentioned above. Reinstalled the latest drivers and all my problems went away. In my case it was the drivers shutting down leaving a black screen with the game still playing in the background lol.

Sometimes things get left behind when you do a regular uninstall or overwrite existing drivers and strange things manifest themselves which are hard to track down. So definately worth a try.

The Uninstaller util boots into safe mode before uninstalling are removes all traces. Has worked well for me in the past.
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Thanks for that, will go through the process of removing and re-installing the drivers

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After a little searching found I have an EVGA card, and there's a utility by them that allows overclocking etc, but also adjusting of the fan curve.

Cranked the fan a bit and have it set to kick in sooner. Ran furmark again and it knocked a good 20'C off the max temp. Haven't tried it yet during Elite but will later tonight. Quietly hopeful :)
Thanks for the feedback everyone - much appreciated!
 

Kicks

Kicks
Note it's not always temperature. An old PC I had, I upgraded the card. It used to struggle in graphic-intensive games. Found out I was exceeding the max output of the PSU, so had to replace that. Afterwards, everything was great.
 

Armante

Armante
Kicks said:
Note it's not always temperature. An old PC I had, I upgraded the card. It used to struggle in graphic-intensive games. Found out I was exceeding the max output of the PSU, so had to replace that. Afterwards, everything was great.
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Sure, fair call. Though this 670 GTX can actually run it at a steady 60fps with many settings maxed. It just craps out after a while. So I'm hoping I can get it sorted. Don't have the money for a card upgrade right now.
 

Ruskodisco

Ruskodisco
again i very much doubt its your system. again i was just having problems when this morning i was fine. same exact problems with connecting to the market, and the rubberbanding(or dot by dot movement as you call it lol) and then my ship was doing it.
so i played assassins creed unity and far cry 4 then batman yet all of them were fine no problems.
and sorry to say but elite is not that hungry of a game.
 

Armante

Armante
Well I can tell you that I've had this problem with other games which put a strain on my system - like Planetside 2 for example. Exact same freezes and lockups, with the sound stuttering, driver failure, crash to desktop or lockup.

So far tonight I've played for more than an hour without any problems, and the GPU temp hasn't gone over 80'C since I started running the EVGA Precision 16 utility with settings for increased fan RPM and quicker spool-up. It hit the max 80'c inside a station, while in menus - exactly the times I used to have problems.

So so far so good! :D
 
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