Two seconds ... The Bugatti Chiron 
General / Off-Topic From 0 to 100 km / h in 2.3 seconds
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Would have? He still will do, guaranteed.
It's the 0 to -£2M I find impressive!
2.3 seconds to get to 60MPH?
My ancient Suzuki does better than that
My ancient Suzuki does better than that
10 minutes to switch off all the electronic nannying to even get near that.
Even so, that's quite impressive, although I would still filter past the fella at the next set of lights on my scummy Honda.[yesnod] "Toot-Toot! Byeeee!"[big grin]
Even so, that's quite impressive, although I would still filter past the fella at the next set of lights on my scummy Honda.[yesnod] "Toot-Toot! Byeeee!"[big grin]
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Jeremy Clarkson's death rumour.. the most exaggerated in the WORLD...
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and on that bombshell...
Bugatti are getting into the Elite ship building market. They are going to build one that can accelerate faster than all projectile ammo and dose not require chaff. When questioned; VW said it was still in the development stage and could not commit on emission figures, for legal reasons.
Minonian
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??? Matchbox.
[video=youtube;5gFGX43vubM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gFGX43vubM[/video]
Accumlator problems? They will be resolved within a few years.
They are needed no matter what the opposing parties trying to do. Thnk about how fast your smartphone, laptop, or any other electric device gobbles up the charge.
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It has a single 5-mode switch on the steering wheel. Setting 5 is 'top speed' mode. Other modes are available.[alien]
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And its still nothing more just a good looking toy car especially if you compare to the electric cars...
This much is the difference between the two.
Not sure I understand what you're saying here - of course it's a toy! Who in their right mind would see it as anything else? So is the Merc.
I wouldn't have an electric car as a gift; I don't care how fast it is. And there's still no way to get anything like the range of a conventional car using anything more than a fraction of the performance potential. Nor is there likely to be any time soon. Hybrid systems that use a small petrol engine to power electric motors is probably the immediate way forward because it's the most efficient way to use the available energy. The BMW i8 is a more important car than any of the above. Or at least it would be if it was actually able to achieve it's claimed economy figures in real-world driving.
Then again I'm just an old school petrolhead for whom the noise it makes is half the fun.
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Minonian
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About range issues you are right.
Noise? Let's just say i think speed is the whole point and fun, but as a player in the heat of the battle i love to listen this kind of music so i can understand your point of View.
[video=youtube;JrIoxUdARak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrIoxUdARak[/video]
Noise?
Let's just say i think speed is the whole point and fun, but as a player in the heat of the battle i love to listen this kind of music so i can understand your point of View.[video=youtube;JrIoxUdARak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrIoxUdARak[/video]
About range issues you are right.
Noise?
For a race driver speed is certainly the key - you want the car to be going as fast as it is possible to go at any given point on the circuit.
I'm not a race driver; I'm a person who enjoys the experience of driving great cars (and with a Boxster GTS to drive it is indeed a fabulous experience). For me personally the sound is as much part of the experience as the speed; likewise the handling; likewise the braking. That being the case I bought a car that excels in all these areas, and specced it with torque vectoring and ceramic brakes to enhance those particular attributes. Yes it's fast (0-100km/h in 4.7 sec and top speed of 280 km/h) - as fast as I'm likely ever to want a car to be - but for me personally, speed isn't everything.
From what I've been able to discover, the great achievement of the Chiron is that it has these stratospheric numbers in a car that is - apparently - much more involving and entertaining to drive than the Veyron was. For all it's performance, nobody ever described it as 'fun' to drive - 'clinical' was a common adjective appearing in reviews. The Chiron has, by all accounts, addressed that issue without compromising it's performance envelope.
Speed as a primary criterion of fun is certainly a valid viewpoint, but it isn't the only one.
Again, and with respect, our perspectives are different. You judge everything in terms of speed. I value different aspects of the car's function. Doesn't mean either of us is wrong, just different.
And while I'm here, I'm afraid your grasp of the engineering concepts involved is a little off. The reason why standard road cars are quiet is that the exhaust gases pass through a series of sound-deadening structures called baffles. This creates something called back pressure, which in turn actually reduces engine efficiency. Race cars frequently have the exhaust gases routed through very simple pipes precisely so that the gases can flow more freely, improving engine efficiency and hence increasing power. As a result, the volume they emit is considerably higher than for a standard road car; so much so that race tracks in the UK have strictly enforced noise limits. Manufacturers of high performance cars put a great deal of time, effort and money into tuning the exhaust systems of their vehicles. Many sportscar enthusiasts will actually factor the exhaust note into their considerations when buying a car.
As a final thought, here's a review of the model I use compiled by Autocar magazine. Note how the reviewer keeps referring to the exhaust note in very positive (and at times quite emotive) terms:
Porsche Boxster GTS
Whatever your point, making it about the noise is not the way to do it. It makes people believe you do not understand the engineering. Energy efficiency in cars has very little to do with the amount of noise they make.
There are in fact several major issues with currently available battery technologies. The Mercedes SLS electric is not the solution - at least not for the forseeable future. Yes it is an excellent showcase for what is technically possible, but at close to £400,000 is hardly a car for the people. Also, electric cars need regular recharging, which means plugging them into an electrical power supply for hours at a time - last I looked many power stations were still using fossil fuels. Then there is the cost - both financial and environmental - of making the types of batteries cars like the SLSe use. Finally, using battery power to go as fast as possible (which seems to be what you were originally suggesting) drains them very quickly - to the point that they are effectively useless as a very high performance power source. Batteries are just not the way to go as fast as possible for any length of time.
In the long term I foresee either some kind of hybrid power in which a very small petrol engine is used as a generator for the electric power source (hence my words about the BMW i8, which operates in precisely this way in one of its operating modes) or hydrogen power, which I've seen tested a few years ago but not heard much about since. If hydrogen fuel cells can be made practicable then this too is an extremely energy efficient option (until somebody decides that sucking up all the hydrogen is bad of course....).
hydrogen fuel cell motorcycle
hydrogen fuel cell car
All the above notwithstanding, the traditional petrol engine is not going away any time soon however much some amongst us would like it to.
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