Frontier Elite 2 Music Remastered and in game PLS

MINDWIPE

MINDWIPE
Title says it all.

i love the music thats in game but i want more. i was hoping their music composer could put his own flare on the classic elite music from frontier and first encouters and possibly incorporate them into the game at some point with the update packs. i always especially love the theme for ELite 2 and also the second theme by Lowe.
 

Defacto

Defacto
I really like both the FE2 theme, the second theme, and all the glorious classical music! I would like to see it all returning to ED, that would be great!
 

dementia

dementia
Defacto said:
I really like both the FE2 theme, the second theme, and all the glorious classical music! I would like to see it all returning to ED, that would be great!
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The docking computer in ED already plays classical music (blue danube included amongst others).
 

Captain Breton

Captain Breton
MINDWIPE said:
Title says it all.

i love the music thats in game but i want more. i was hoping their music composer could put his own flare on the classic elite music from frontier and first encouters and possibly incorporate them into the game at some point with the update packs. i always especially love the theme for ELite 2 and also the second theme by Lowe.
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!!! :eek: -hell- yes.
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I'm actually almost certain Frontier Developments have been keeping tabs on Lowe (at least they SHOULD!) , but as far as I know, he's retired. That said , seeing more Elite music remastered and put in the game is something I'd absolutely love to see.
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The music playing on the login-screen now is ....nice enough? But hardly the kind you go humming for hours later due to it being a -very- memorable and amazing tune
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
jamieboo said:
Eek apologies for shameless selftrumpeting - I just reposted this in another thread just above this.
Here's my reimagined/reorchestrated version of the old Elite 2 music that I did a year or so ago.

https://soundcloud.com/jamie-treacher/frontier-elite-2-theme

:)
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I have that bookmarked already, having discovered it last year ;)

Can you tell me which software you used to produce that?

I sometimes dabble with producing my own ditties - used to do that a lot in my Amiga 1200 days.

Also - was that a sample from Star Trek: The Motion Picture I heard in there? ;)

Edit: Or perhaps it was a sample from The Wrath of Khan?
 
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jamieboo

J
Thanks folks! :)
I wrote it/orchestrated it in the score editor of Cubase, and I used EWQL Symphonic Orchestra for the instrumental sounds.
There's no actual 'samples' of pre-recorded music here - I wrote this by placing notes on a stave - but I did wilfully use some 'space music' orchestrational standards in my arrangement! The violin arpeggios which start around 1.19 are capped with augmented fifths which is something that Horner indeed used in Wrath of Khan (Also Goldsmith in The Motion Picture in the 'Floating Office' track). So well spotted if that's what you're referring to! :)
I've also hidden a little quotation of the Blue Danube in there too.
Anyway, glad it's still getting some love! :)
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
jamieboo said:
Thanks folks! :)
I wrote it/orchestrated it in the score editor of Cubase, and I used EWQL Symphonic Orchestra for the instrumental sounds.
There's no actual 'samples' of pre-recorded music here - I wrote this by placing notes on a stave - but I did wilfully use some 'space music' orchestrational standards in my arrangement! The violin arpeggios which start around 1.19 are capped with augmented fifths which is something that Horner indeed used in Wrath of Khan (Also Goldsmith in The Motion Picture in the 'Floating Office' track). So well spotted if that's what you're referring to! :)
I've also hidden a little quotation of the Blue Danube in there too.
Anyway, glad it's still getting some love! :)
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Bingo! ;)

Those 'augmented fifths' are always going to be my all-time favourite bits to hear in any composition - the Floating Office track is understandably one of my favourite tracks of the OST - hence being able to identify it - great use of it in your version of that tune!

Thanks for the other info too. :)

And to top it off here's the track:

[video=youtube;DOMO_cDsors]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOMO_cDsors[/video]

Love it - will never get tired of that ;)
 
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jamieboo

J
Beautiful! One of my favourite Goldsmith tracks too - no one could do ethereal majesty like Jerry!
Different chord progression to my arrangement, but if you arrange whatever your chords are with arpeggiated strings (Goldsmith gives the arpeggios to the flutes here and has tremolos on the high strings) adding augmented fifths at the top will give a beautiful celestial tingle!
 

iain666

iain666
dementia said:
The docking computer in ED already plays classical music (blue danube included amongst others).
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I might have to buy one next time I dock. Sometime in March probably.

I'd quite like to play my own music in game - I know I can emulate that but turning off in-game music, alt-tab to fire up other music player, fiddle with volumes a bit to get everything at the right levels is a minor pain that could be avoided if I could point the game at a directory and tell it that's the (34th century version of a) flash drive full of music I just plugged into my ship and have the game handle that.
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
jamieboo said:
Beautiful! One of my favourite Goldsmith tracks too - no one could do ethereal majesty like Jerry!
Different chord progression to my arrangement, but if you arrange whatever your chords are with arpeggiated strings (Goldsmith gives the arpeggios to the flutes here and has tremolos on the high strings) adding augmented fifths at the top will give a beautiful celestial tingle!
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:)

I always suspected Goldsmith was influenced a bit by Bernard Herrmann - compare the Vertigo main theme to Star Trek: The Motion Picture track "The Cloud"....

Vertigo ....

[video=youtube;-37WAXM-lJE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-37WAXM-lJE[/video]

And Star Trek ....

[video=youtube;gOs_0rj5Ik4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOs_0rj5Ik4[/video]

They just don't make soundtracks like they used to ;)
 

jamieboo

J
Everyone was influenced by Herrmann! :)
Yeah this is a great track too!
And superficially it's very similar - they both use 3-up 3-down arpeggios of minor major seventh chords. But whereas Herrmann's arpeggios stay pretty harmonically constant (there aren't significant harmonic changes until .33 and 1.06), which is appropriate to the maddening, obsessive, circling themes of the narrative; Goldsmiths harmonies subtly progress - the first progression coming after only 5 seconds.
Interesting comparison! But I must guard against the temptation to write reams about this, as it's probably a bit off topic! ;)
So yeah! Frontier Music!
 
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Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
jamieboo said:
Everyone was influenced by Herrmann! :)
Yeah this is a great track too!
And superficially it's very similar - they both use 3-up 3-down arpeggios of minor major seventh chords. But whereas Herrmann's arpeggios stay pretty harmonically constant (there aren't significant harmonic changes until .33 and 1.06), which is appropriate to the maddening, obsessive, circling themes of the narrative; Goldsmiths harmonies subtly progress - the first progression coming after only 5 seconds.
Interesting comparison! But I must guard against the temptation to write reams about this, as it's probably a bit off topic! ;)
So yeah! Frontier Music!
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I wish I had the musical vocabulary to articulate the descriptions of the pieces like you have ;)
I've never really studied musical theory - I just had an innate ability (decades ago) to make my Amiga produce some noise or composition that I dreamed up in my head, which was lucky.

I still have loads of orchestral sci-fi, 'soundtrack-type' music I've 'composed' in my mind that I can play in my head, but was always very frustrated by not being able to transpose from head to sound that someone else could hear. Perhaps it's time to learn how to get this done. ;)

Anyway, yes, as you say - Frontier music! We need that in ED - even just for ol' times sake!
 

jamieboo

J
My knowledge of music theory is pretty crappy actually - I'm lucky that I have quite a good ear so, similarly to you, I can just work stuff out in my head. That's how I started learning music: I'm self taught - no formal training here - and I'm sure if you put your mind to it you could start coming up with some more musical stuff if you wanted! :)
As for the Frontier theme - to be honest I don't really find it very exciting musically speaking - it just has the halcyon weight of nostalgia. I just thought it would be fun to reinterpret it and try to give the relatively simple progressions some symphonic beef!
I actually really enjoy the music Erasmus has been producing so I think we're in very safe hands!
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
jamieboo said:
My knowledge of music theory is pretty crappy actually - I'm lucky that I have quite a good ear so, similarly to you, I can just work stuff out in my head. That's how I started learning music: I'm self taught - no formal training here - and I'm sure if you put your mind to it you could start coming up with some more musical stuff if you wanted! :)
As for the Frontier theme - to be honest I don't really find it very exciting musically speaking - it just has the halcyon weight of nostalgia. I just thought it would be fun to reinterpret it and try to give the relatively simple progressions some symphonic beef!
I actually really enjoy the music Erasmus has been producing so I think we're in very safe hands!
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The Frontier theme is good - but it's tricky to reinterpret, as it is kind of cheesy - which is why I think your interpretation of it is pretty damn good.

And I agree with you, the music in ED is extremely well done.
 
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