Frontier, it's time to listen...

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Frontier, if you want to save this game, you need to take action now! This doesn't work anymore, you have lost so many good players and people already, all that is left, is those last hardcore fans, stuggling of proving that it's all good, but it's not. You were able to create an universe, with thousands of players, yet you made everyone feel so alone. This game has no social aspect what so ever, there is no player interactions, such as trading or such. This game needs a serious fix, to restore the community and the interaction between players. You decided to make an online game, yet it still feels like a single player game, most of the people sitting in their own instances, away from the cheating openplay players. People have been abusing this game since launch. Players who spent hours and hours to upgrade their Grade 5 modules, where others only spent Grade 1 costs to get Grade 5, in no effort. You allowed players to take advantage of all the weak parts of the game, earning money so fast, which other spent 1 year to get, in just a few hours the abusing people got this money. You allowed players to get away with so much, and the damage is now so severe, that no one really gives a dammn anymore. The game has lost its value by far. Look at all the content on youtube, people screaming for a different path, people are in pain, so many people been looking forward to be in a space universe, with their friends, and feeling of a sandbox universe, with the ability to actually control the ship like a simulator this would be the best space game in the world. You were able to create something beautiful yet, you destroyed it at the same time. You don't listen to the community, people can talk about abuse which many people use still today, been this for years and no action against it. You don't share anything with us, keep everything so secret, without getting the feedback from the community before you decide to do something is very dangerous. Look what you did to Powerplay, look what you did to engineers, look what you did to multicrew. It is very important that you share what you planning, so it can be discussed, you making this game for the community, so you must listen to the community.

Make this game more real, that the universe feels like it's there, not randomly created for you as you log in. The first you need to take care of, is a complete wipe of everything, but you can let people keep their Combat, trading and exploration rank, engineer unlocks and all the exploration claims and data. You need to remove all the abusing aspects of the game, you need to rethink Power play, removal of all RNG in engineering and do improvments to Multi crew, allowing you go to outfitting and switch modules, even if you have a crew in the ship, allowing other players onboard to plan routes, accept missions and able to complete those missions together, all as a team. You must make sure that the credits has a value and there are more money sinks, as fuel, fees and more. A better law system, so people behave, make it feel real, no speeding in the station and flying like an idiot, people who fly reckless, give them a fine and so on. Give the playes able to take on jobs like security, police forces, to take act against other players who doesn't pay their fines, and wanted players. Fix the combat logging, by placing the same ship at the same location when someone logs out, if that ship is destroyed, that player who logs in later, will be see a dialog where it tells that player have been killed. Giving people more options to socialize, in a new area, like a bar, trading hub doing buisness together, forming alliances, estabish factories on planets and other productions to open up this game to a whole new level, players able to craft modules and ships, only having the E modules at stations, able to send a voice messange to anyone, by holding down a key, and talk, then it sends to that player. A huge improvement to the traveling system, it's a mess, jump, aligh, jump, aligh, this game seriously needs something to remove the repetetive and boring aspects. THere is so much things you can do better, it's time now Frontier, no more of this you doing, it's time to enbrace to community and listen to us what we want.

Remove the ability to jump between solo/private or open, with the same "character". Keep them seperate where Solo and Private has a seperate character, you can decide if you want to go solo or play with a friend or friends on that same character, but if you want to go to the open universe, you need to have a seperate character.
 
Frontier, if you want to save this game, you need to take action now! This doesn't work anymore, you have lost so many good players and people already, all that is left, is those last hardcore fans, stuggling of proving that it's all good, but it's not. You were able to create an universe, with thousands of players, yet you made everyone feel so alone. This game has no social aspect what so ever, there is no player interactions, such as trading or such. This game needs a serious fix, to restore the community and the interaction between players. You decided to make an online game, yet it still feels like a single player game, most of the people sitting in their own instances, away from the cheating openplay players. People have been abusing this game since launch. Players who spent hours and hours to upgrade their Grade 5 modules, where others only spent Grade 1 costs to get Grade 5, in no effort. You allowed players to take advantage of all the weak parts of the game, earning money so fast, which other spent 1 year to get, in just a few hours the abusing people got this money. You allowed players to get away with so much, and the damage is now so severe, that no one really gives a dammn anymore. The game has lost its value by far. Look at all the content on youtube, people screaming for a different path, people are in pain, so many people been looking forward to be in a space universe, with their friends, and feeling of a sandbox universe, with the ability to actually control the ship like a simulator this would be the best space game in the world. You were able to create something beautiful yet, you destroyed it at the same time. You don't listen to the community, people can talk about abuse which many people use still today, been this for years and no action against it. You don't share anything with us, keep everything so secret, without getting the feedback from the community before you decide to do something is very dangerous. Look what you did to Powerplay, look what you did to engineers, look what you did to multicrew. It is very important that you share what you planning, so it can be discussed, you making this game for the community, so you must listen to the community.

Make this game more real, that the universe feels like it's there, not randomly created for you as you log in. The first you need to take care of, is a complete wipe of everything, but you can let people keep their Combat, trading and exploration rank, engineer unlocks and all the exploration claims and data. You need to remove all the abusing aspects of the game, you need to rethink Power play, removal of all RNG in engineering and do improvments to Multi crew, allowing you go to outfitting and switch modules, even if you have a crew in the ship, allowing other players onboard to plan routes, accept missions and able to complete those missions together, all as a team. You must make sure that the credits has a value and there are more money sinks, as fuel, fees and more. A better law system, so people behave, make it feel real, no speeding in the station and flying like an idiot, people who fly reckless, give them a fine and so on. Give the playes able to take on jobs like security, police forces, to take act against other players who doesn't pay their fines, and wanted players. Fix the combat logging, by placing the same ship at the same location when someone logs out, if that ship is destroyed, that player who logs in later, will be see a dialog where it tells that player have been killed. Giving people more options to socialize, in a new area, like a bar, trading hub doing buisness together, forming alliances, estabish factories on planets and other productions to open up this game to a whole new level, players able to craft modules and ships, only having the E modules at stations, able to send a voice messange to anyone, by holding down a key, and talk, then it sends to that player. A huge improvement to the traveling system, it's a mess, jump, aligh, jump, aligh, this game seriously needs something to remove the repetetive and boring aspects. THere is so much things you can do better, it's time now Frontier, no more of this you doing, it's time to enbrace to community and listen to us what we want.

Remove the ability to jump between solo/private or open, with the same "character". Keep them seperate where Solo and Private has a seperate character, you can decide if you want to go solo or play with a friend or friends on that same character, but if you want to go to the open universe, you need to have a seperate character.

Z33r0x, if you want people to read your post, you need more paragraphs!
 
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Robert Maynard

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Remove the ability to jump between solo/private or open, with the same "character". Keep them seperate where Solo and Private has a seperate character, you can decide if you want to go solo or play with a friend or friends on that same character, but if you want to go to the open universe, you need to have a seperate character.

Frontier have been rather clear that they're not going to change this....

.... and people have been complaining about it for over four and a half years now, two and a half of which are since the game released with the promised features in place.
 
Frontier does listen. Thankfully they don't jump on every single "great idea" that we players post in these forums.

There is an echo chamber out there telling itself that Elite is dead and Frontier needs to take immediate drastic action to save the game. A complete wipe? You really want to nail the coffin shut don't you? Now there are those of us who wipe our game saves fairly regularly but for people who struggle to put just a few hours a week into this game wiping nearly three years of progress would be an insult.

Personally I'd be happy with separate game saves for each of the different play modes but that isn't going to happen either ... and would quite frankly displease as many, if not more, players then it would satisfy. Not going to happen.
 
Short of shooting you, other players can't do diddly to impact the game for another. All the exploits in the world only make difference to the percieved value of a credit, not the actual value.
People exploiting engineers still doesn't make any difference to another player, they're only skipping a time sink not accessing things nobody else could have. If they kill you, you were going to die either way.

As for a server wipe... ...
 
The first you need to take care of, is a complete wipe of everything, but you can let people keep their Combat, trading and exploration rank


Wow. we can? That's *very* generous of you.



No.

Remove the ability to jump between solo/private or open, with the same "character". Keep them seperate where Solo and Private has a seperate character, you can decide if you want to go solo or play with a friend or friends on that same character, but if you want to go to the open universe, you need to have a seperate character.


No thanks, I'll use this one.

What you state repeatedly as fact about what 'needs' to be done is nothing more than a personal opinion on the game, and one that differs with a marked number of other players.
 
Frontier have been rather clear that they're not going to change this....

.... and people have been complaining about it for over four and a half years now, two and a half of which are since the game released with the promised features in place.

You are right there unfortunately; but it is something i have been in favour of since the start; separating Open and Solo, making it a choice you have to make at the start.

It won't change now though.
 
you making this game for the community, so you must listen to the community.

They do. You would be better served by focusing on one specific thing that bothers you, something that hasn't been brought up 1,000 times and responded to by FDev. This TL;DR "rerun" isn't going to accomplish anything except agitate people.

And if you really want FDev to listen, you should change your avatar to a cute anime girl. This evil eye picture will just scare them away ;)
 
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Yes! It is time to wipe the servers and go F2P. Gimme microtransations, let me buy CR with $! And i want a nude patch! And romance options!
 
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