Frontier just gave the finger to its player in the most direct way possible

Seriously, we haven't had the major problems with the game fixed and they're already putting out paid DLC. You can't even use aviaries or aquatics in the JP era in the current gen consoles, we don't even have the JP3 pteranodons (or the one from JP2 for that matter). Give us a full game before trying to sell us extra content, because I sure ain't wasting my money when I didn't even get what I paid for.
 
I am fully on your side BUT there was such an article in which it emerged that the sales figures for both JWE2 and the Elite Dangerous DLC fell short of expectations. Frontier has to react to this somehow and does it this way. The only stupid thing is that we have to bite the bullet and should buy it if we don't want there to be no more updates / dlcs any more soon ...
 
We don't need any more dinosaurs. What we need is to improve the game through updates. I have seen the dinosaurs in the pack and they seem very unattractive dinosaurs.

This is not the way to go to improve the game.
 
I don't agree that they're giving the finger to its players, but I do think new dinosaurs (right now) are not necessary. This of course is my opinion.

Something tells me that this whole thing is a misunderstanding. I feel like this DLC thing came out to the public completely unintentionally - and is only part of the story. Usually there's a post in the news thread, along with any other fixes and happenings they're working on.
 
I'm sure they wanted to push it out before Christmas/Hanukkah. I agree they needed to improve the gameplay first before they sell us more dinosaurs, though. The animals in the pack look wonderful, but they need to give the game a major update first.
-EDIT- Well right after I wrote this, they announced a major update to the game. Yay!
 
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In JWE1, Frontier often also released free updates with quality of life improvements together with their paid DLCs.

Yes, this DLC feels like it's very early before more serious problems have been fixed. (also there have been two patches fixing crashes and stuff)
But we should withhold judgement until this DLC actually comes out and see if there's also a free update with improvements or not.
 
In JWE1, Frontier often also released free updates with quality of life improvements together with their paid DLCs.
Not just JWE1, but all of their games have major updates for free along their DLC. It's judt how Frontier does things. Bit weird, but I can appreciate the consistancy.

Also, most things that need fixing? Those have absolutely nothing to do with the creature modelers and animators. Multiple things are worked at at once.
 
Also, most things that need fixing? Those have absolutely nothing to do with the creature modelers and animators. Multiple things are worked at at once.
Exactly. I just meant to calm things down with my post. But yeah the artists have nothing to do with most of the other issues.
But besides that, there are a number of issues that should be fixed; like the frozen starving animals for example.
And some people feel these kinds of things should be fixed first before getting paid DLC, regardless of if it's warranted to get angry about it.
 
Seriously, we haven't had the major problems with the game fixed and they're already putting out paid DLC. You can't even use aviaries or aquatics in the JP era in the current gen consoles, we don't even have the JP3 pteranodons (or the one from JP2 for that matter). Give us a full game before trying to sell us extra content, because I sure ain't wasting my money when I didn't even get what I paid for.
There will definitely be a free update along with the DLC, there always is. The only question is, what issues will be fixed with it? Hopefully more Sandbox options, and the ability to play campaign maps in Sandbox.

As far as a DLC being, "giving the finger" to the players, I couldn't disagree more. That accusation is just plain silly. A DLC is completely optional. If you don't like it, don't buy it. As for me, I'm definitely buying. I've always wanted another Australian dinosaur to place with Muttaburrasaurus and now we have Minmi! The other species in the pack also look great.
 
Seriously, we haven't had the major problems with the game fixed and they're already putting out paid DLC. You can't even use aviaries or aquatics in the JP era in the current gen consoles, we don't even have the JP3 pteranodons (or the one from JP2 for that matter). Give us a full game before trying to sell us extra content, because I sure ain't wasting my money when I didn't even get what I paid for.
As I'm sure has already been explained to you multiple times already, the animators who make new dinosaurs are an entirely different development team than the code monkey who's gonna flip that switch and put aviaries and lagoons in the JP era. The art team making new dinos doesn't get in the way of the systems team working on crashes, behavior freezes, floaty jeeps, etc, and, oh look! They have been releasing patches that have made significant improvement since launch.

Also, what do you mean by "current gen"? Cause the substance of your complaint implies your talking about last gen consoles: in which case, yes, playing on obsolete hardware is going to have an uneven experience compared to the actual current gen consoles and newer PCs. Just cause they haven't dropped everything to change the design for your particular fixation doesn't mean they've given you the middle finger, let alone the rest of us.
 
Seriously, we haven't had the major problems with the game fixed and they're already putting out paid DLC. You can't even use aviaries or aquatics in the JP era in the current gen consoles, we don't even have the JP3 pteranodons (or the one from JP2 for that matter). Give us a full game before trying to sell us extra content, because I sure ain't wasting my money when I didn't even get what I paid for.
Might have wanna waited until the official post was out...JP aviaries and lagoons, maps, other buildings and more...yeah, Frontier is really giving the fans the finger by including what they asked for in their updates.

I'm all for feedback and criticism 'cause things won't change without it, but at least wait until things are announced and out before going off on a rant for nothing.
 

Jens Erik

Senior Community Manager
Frontier
In case you missed the news, there's a free update coming out alongside the Early Cretaceous Pack. This update adds in bug fixes and quality of life updates, as well as new content.

 
In case you missed the news, there's a free update coming out alongside the Early Cretaceous Pack. This update adds in bug fixes and quality of life updates, as well as new content.

Thank you Frontier, I take back everything I've said.
 
Most of your complaints will be addressed in the free update that is coming along with the paid DLC. We are getting a JP themed aviary, JP themed lagoon and the ability to use the campaign DFW game assets.
 
I am fully on your side BUT there was such an article in which it emerged that the sales figures for both JWE2 and the Elite Dangerous DLC fell short of expectations. Frontier has to react to this somehow and does it this way. The only stupid thing is that we have to bite the bullet and should buy it if we don't want there to be no more updates / dlcs any more soon ...

Sales for JWE2 were lower than expected but only for the PC. The consoles did fine with sales. It's a shame that it didn't sell as well on PC but that doesn't mean it sold poorly. Just it didn't meet the sales expectations. But this only effected the PC platform. They will still support the game cause it's also on consoles. Hopefully PC sales pick up with Frontier causing some more hype with the new DLC and update that will greatly improve the game.

I wish we could see how JWE2 performed sales wise on PC compared to how JWE did in sales. But that is financial information for Frontier to worry about.

Like I said it's a shame because it's a really good game. It has issues and some aspects were a bit of a disappointment for me. But the first game wasn't perfect and it got a lot of post release support that made it a much better game after release. It didn't take long and Frontier was quick to start listening to the player base and improve the game. This game is already much better than JWE in a lot of ways and there is a really strong foundation here to build on if Frontier will support the game which I am sure they will. The same way Frontier improved JWE they can do the same with JWE2.

I think after some DLC releases and some updates/patches the game will see increased sales on PC. This game also has increased hardware demand and PC hardware is still hard to find and overpriced. Some PC gamers might also be holding out for Prehistoric Kingdom thinking they will get a better game. Some of them will probably give in and pick JWE2 up.
 
As I'm sure has already been explained to you multiple times already, the animators who make new dinosaurs are an entirely different development team than the code monkey who's gonna flip that switch and put aviaries and lagoons in the JP era. The art team making new dinos doesn't get in the way of the systems team working on crashes, behavior freezes, floaty jeeps, etc, and, oh look! They have been releasing patches that have made significant improvement since launch.

Also, what do you mean by "current gen"? Cause the substance of your complaint implies your talking about last gen consoles: in which case, yes, playing on obsolete hardware is going to have an uneven experience compared to the actual current gen consoles and newer PCs. Just cause they haven't dropped everything to change the design for your particular fixation doesn't mean they've given you the middle finger, let alone the rest of us.
Well if that was the case then last gen console players should not be charged full price. That really isn't a big issue for me as since they announced they are adding JP aviaries and lagoons.
 
Seriously, we haven't had the major problems with the game fixed and they're already putting out paid DLC. You can't even use aviaries or aquatics in the JP era in the current gen consoles, we don't even have the JP3 pteranodons (or the one from JP2 for that matter). Give us a full game before trying to sell us extra content, because I sure ain't wasting my money when I didn't even get what I paid for.
If you had read the tread by frontier they are fixing Bugs and adding JP Era Lagoon and aviary free update. no news for pterodon. This IS releasing same Time as thé dlc novembre 9 1 month afther the release of the game
 
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