Frontier - please stop work on any new expansions and focus on your core gameplay.

Now see everywhere I go I see something different and often amazing, and I take the simple things available and use them to build more complex things.

Could you give me one example of where you take simple things in the game and make something more complex? I think you are either setting up a game of semantics, or we are playing entirely different games.

Actually there are plenty of people that just like to roam around in Minecraft and explore the environments and there are quite a few things in ED you can participate in to become part of something bigger, build something of your own. If you haven't noticed them or figured out how to participate, then fundamentally, at this point I don't think you ever will.

Sign me up in that 'never will' club too :(

There is a bit of emergent gameplay in ED as in pretty much any other game, but since the only way to affect the world is the BGS (which isn't the most engaging or overtly consequential thing ever..) it doesn't manage to catch my interest.

Or perhaps you mean CGs? I am really at a loss here.
 
Could you give me one example of where you take simple things in the game and make something more complex? I think you are either setting up a game of semantics, or we are playing entirely different games.



Sign me up in that 'never will' club too :(

There is a bit of emergent gameplay in ED as in pretty much any other game, but since the only way to affect the world is the BGS (which isn't the most engaging or overtly consequential thing ever..) it doesn't manage to catch my interest.

Or perhaps you mean CGs? I am really at a loss here.

I will agree that ED need a lot of work still, however that its broken is just another drama queen among the drama queens.

I like to just toddle around, there are many nice places to visit, all different I might add. Personalty I want the spacelegs add on, to me that is when it start to get really interesting.

Did some witcher 3:blood and wine game session this weekend, just like to toddle around in that game too, however its the same mechanics.

Take quest, kill monster, get reward, upgrade gear and upgrade vineyard. NPC say the same stuff over and over, funny the first 10 times then it gets old. However I like to hear them talk, rather they talk and say the same, than just be silent. Like you know" women are like a job, you can always get another one" I laughed out loud of that one, wify didn't, no sense of humor :D
 
Lol. Having played arcadey vehicular games for years, no. You are flatly wrong.
Go play World of Tanks or MWO, and compare the complexity of simply controlling the ship and weapons and equipment to those games.
That's just flight & combat. Niether of those games have anything to do with exploration, trade, or other various forms of activities to be found within Elite Dangerous.

And most certainly they do not exist in a persistent game universe.



...So is every other game that's ever been 'launched'? Name one game to me where the core gameplay "changed". It doesn't exist; I'm loathe to make an exception even for EVE or WoW, games that have been around longer than many people have been alive.
Hell, most games these days are just the same re-hashed garbage with (sometimes) better graphics, different characters, mildly deviating storylines, and so on.

I find you to be totally unreasonable.

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I confess, quality of life and bugfixing updates to any game I play, by and large, are my favorite.

The gameplay in this game is so trivial. It gives a sensation of complexity but is really superficial.

I played WoT, MWO (since beta) and EVE, I also play a lot of other games (including DCS) and I tell you this game is simplistic, trivial and arcade. Nothing bad with the arcade, its just the gameplay is so basic that it gets boring really fast.

Yesterday I tried to play again, and omg its really boring. It takes several minutes FLYING STRAIGHT DOING NOTHING in supercruise to fly to a destination. The only variable are the buged interdictions. The activities are so short, uninteresting and without challenge. Whenever I look I see oportunities of gameplay.

Well, if you have played Civilization 4 or 5 you can see how the expantions changed the way you play the game. There you have an example of new major gameplay elements added to a game.
You say I am totally unreasonable, why? this game is in development, they sold me a fun game but gave me a really boring one so I'm expressing my big dissapoint with this game.
They did a bait and switch with the DDF, they cheated the backers. You said you like exploration, please read the exploration in the DDA and tell me you don't want it to be changed.
I told 3 friends to not buy this game until I told them, not even during a sale.

But you're right most games these days are garbage, I'm looking at you ehm.... ED. I hope someday this game evolves from "1 button" gameplay.
 
It takes several minutes FLYING STRAIGHT DOING NOTHING in supercruise to fly to a destination.

You are right! It should take hours, if not days. And we should have the ability to walk around our ships tossing balls against walls and whistling while we try to not have our little minds crushed under the sheer vastness of space.

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Look , I'm going to be a a bit optimistic here (which isn't like me at all ..I'm a realist usually). Being an Elite player from the early days I'm absolutely "over the moon" (pardon the pun) about the way ED is and the way its going forward . The Horizons pack alone was enough to get me back into the game and now the idea of planetary atmospheres and the like really excites me (honest!). I do think that there should be part of the Frontier team that look at the game mechanics and take onboard ideas regarding the game but for me , just starting again , the game is a fascinating experience . Just putting my Nube idealistic thoughts across ...shoot me down if you wish (although , please not in the game ...cos I haven't mastered combat yet!!).
Stu1smartcookie , over and out
 
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