Hardware & Technical Frontier Store and the Captcha crap

[Imo]

I wanted to log in into my Frontier store account tonight but went stuck in an endless captcha picture verificaction process. I know these from other web sites too but since 2018 their annoyances exceeded the ones of spam mails.

I WILL NO LONGER TAKE PART IN THESE KIDDING CAPTCHAS.

Sorry for your nice store Frontier. [mad]

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Yes.
if my login.
And ducking credit card isn't evidence enough that I'm not a bot.
It's honestly not worth the hassle.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I hate the CAPTCHAS.

Once on two it's hell to pass the controls.

 

[Caramel Clown]

Can't they just use google's fancy new "I'm not a robot" checkbox? Which, by the way - is more clever than people think.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Can't they just use google's fancy new "I'm not a robot" checkbox? Which, by the way - is more clever than people think.

Yes ! A robot will check never this checkbox.

 

[Shadowdancer]

Can't they just use google's fancy new "I'm not a robot" checkbox?

They do use it. The image puzzle pops up if it comes up inconclusive AFAIK, the complainants fail to not look like bots in some way. It's really more something that needs to be addressed by Google who have more than one problem with their craptacular "AI" fad.

 

[Dural]

There are a completely stupid number of bots trying to access services on the internet to do bad stuff. IK these captcha things are irritating but they are there for good reasons. Just be thankful that FD don't make people use one time password SMS messages or Google Authenticator because those things get tedious in no time at all.

 

[Para Handy]

I wanted to log in into my Frontier store account tonight but went stuck in an endless captcha picture verificaction process. I know these from other web sites too but since 2018 their annoyances exceeded the ones of spam mails.

I WILL NO LONGER TAKE PART IN THESE KIDDING CAPTCHAS.

Sorry for your nice store Frontier. [mad]

I just have to tick the box - why are you having to do the captcha nonsense - is it something to do with your ISP's reputation or suchlike? (I am not being rude, honest question.) I can't remember the last time I had to do a "select all the boxes with a bus" nonsense and I don't think that was Frontier store anyway.

 

[Imo]

I don't know. I often get these when I want to enter the Frontier store. :-/

 

[Patrick_68000]

The CAPTCHAS are a scourge worse than bubonic plague and Ebola.

It is necessary to eradicate the CAPTCHAS.

I hate the CAPTCHAS. It is a waste of time and a destroyer of serenity.

 

[ebbrell]

I use edge, it sort of doesn't ask on my machine

 

[Dural]

The CAPTCHAS are a scourge worse than bubonic plague and Ebola. It is necessary to eradicate the CAPTCHAS. I hate the CAPTCHAS. It is a waste of time and a destroyer of serenity.

I'll tell you a short story. My colleague was asked to make a website with a forum for part of the company we work at. I made a list things he needed to do in order not to have too many problems. One thing was using a decent captcha at the login, he ran out of time and didn't use one. After 1 month in the forum section there were 17,000 fake accounts posting stuff about v14gr4, russian women eager to meet the love of their lives, ink cartridges, ray bans, rolex watches and so on. That's 17,000 accounts, not posts, I was too scared to find out how many actual posts there were. Had to tell him to delete the forum before it was even launched if there wasn't time to do it properly. That's why captchas exist. It's like the wild west on speed out there on the internet P.S. I don't like them either.

 

[Imo]

It is not our job to waste OUR time to safe the time of the web site owners =P

 

[Para Handy]

It is not our job to waste OUR time to safe the time of the web site owners =P

In reality, you are saving the time of the website USERS - just imagine how these fora would look with spam bots running wild. - On the store, bots trying to sniff people's accounts are not exactly something you want to have either - so nope it is not the time of the website owners that you are saving - it is your functionality that is being protected.

 

[Imo]

Yeah but when I am not able to get into the site because of a continues captcha crap the captcha is a big fail and won't help anyone. =P

 

[Raino]

In reality, you are saving the time of the website USERS - just imagine how these fora would look with spam bots running wild. - On the store, bots trying to sniff people's accounts are not exactly something you want to have either - so nope it is not the time of the website owners that you are saving - it is your functionality that is being protected.

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the only thing to complain about would be -- instead of asking for cars or signs

it could be stations or ships or ...

 

[starman]

Would you prefer Frontier revert to their previous security solution....


[video=youtube;y5TiVRne8_w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5TiVRne8_w[/video]

 

[Broon]

Considering I generally run around the web in "ghost" mode i readily accept captchas and multi layer authentication as a way of life for more secure websites where money may be involved.

 

[Micha]

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the only thing to complain about would be -- instead of asking for cars or signs

it could be stations or ships or ...

Then it'd have to be a custom captcha made by FDev. Which probably won't be anywhere near as secure as well as taking time away from working on their games.



The one they use is just the Google one. Usually it's a checkbox, but as others have said, either if enough time has elapsed or for some other reason the access is considered "suspicious" it'll go to one of the picture captchas.

As for the vehicle-heavy theme currently, it's possibly used to help to train their image recognition systems for self-driving cars and other applications. Just like earlier captchas were used to help train OCR systems.

Once these systems get good enough, they'll have to change their captchas again as the attacker bots will also be getting better.

 

[Henkka77]

I dont see the problem. Been throwing money there for 4 years without any problems with captcha.