General / Off-Topic Frontiers share prize at a 6 months low - reason to worry?

ZainlessBrombie

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As you may or may not have noticed Frontiers share prize has been dropping constantly to an now almost 6 months low, after the hype fainted and people realized their promised content would be released step by step as well as the outrage about the prices. I'm starting this thread for general discussions about wether or not you think this is worrying or just the usual up-and-down after the initial bunch of copies being sold, if you think frontier should have acted different in some way - whereever that might be - and what your expectations and speculations are!

Note: Share prizes are a reflection of a companies well-being and status (especially financially), so the share price rising because of the many copies being sold at release is absolutely expected, as is a decrease afterwards. This is just a lighthearted discussion, not a panic about a normal phenomenon :)
 
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Darrett

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Pretty standard after a release, as you said.

I wouldn't be too worried about it. The only reason for concern is if a rival game is released. Frontier has enjoyed being essentially the only game in town, but it's extremely tenuous. Any other major release in the genre is likely to cause a lot of problems for continued development, especially if they have more "game" to them. The opportunity here for Frontier is if they can add enough content in the period between now and the release of competitors to establish an insurmountable hurdle; see World of Warcraft when compared to more modern releases.
 

Lestenio

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Personally I wouldn't worry.
Gamers don't worry about a company's share price before buying a game, Investors worry about that kind stuff and that has nothing to do with the gaming community.
 

Jackboot

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It might be interesting to see if its going to go up when seasons are released and down the following months, if so it seems like you could earn a nice living trading that way.
 

xondk

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Please get a mod to close the topic, just close it.

"The game is doing poorly because x" the stock seems to be doing fine overall, it went up in expectation of release then down again? entirely normal behaviour for stock last I checked
 

ZainlessBrombie

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Share price is determined by the market.
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Wich in return doesn't appear out of nowhere, so correct :D

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Dunno I expected the fluctuation to be lower regarding their previous values.

It might be interesting to see if its going to go up when seasons are released and down the following months, if so it seems like you could earn a nice living trading that way.
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Thanks for the heads up. Time to buy.
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My thoughts as well, projects like this really are fairly predictable :)
(though I'm obviously not someone who is anything like an expert, or else I wouldn't have kicked off this thread ;) )

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xondk said:
Please get a mod to close the topic, just close it.

"The game is doing poorly because x" the stock seems to be doing fine overall, it went up in expectation of release then down again? entirely normal behaviour for stock last I checked
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This is not a post about how the game is doing poorly, but about the thoughs on the topic. I personally am not feeling like the game is in serious danger or the game is doing badly.
 
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Minonian

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What everbody forgot the whole stock market is in trouble.

No reason to worry about FD, but a reason to keep a close eye on the economical world. At this point noting is sure, it's entirely depends on the oil market big dogs. If they are back off in time, Which means ASAP the collapse can be avoided with some minor and medium consequences. If they are keep pushing down the oil prices?

I rather not think about it.
 

Asp Explorer

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ZainlessBrombie said:
Um... Flimley points?
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They are just like share prices, or MIPS, or pints of milk, or pairs of boots made, or rifles issued.

A completely meaningless abstract measure of something not necessarily tangible or material, that may or may not be important to some people, yet holds concrete meaning for some others. In the grand scheme of things (i.e thermodynamics) it's completely pointless.

A Flimley sounds like a fine measurement for a something though :D

Observer A: "Look over there, there's something in the woods!"

Observer B: "Really? How many Flimleys is it?"

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Surfinjo

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Darrett said:
Pretty standard after a release, as you said.

I wouldn't be too worried about it. The only reason for concern is if a rival game is released. Frontier has enjoyed being essentially the only game in town, but it's extremely tenuous. Any other major release in the genre is likely to cause a lot of problems for continued development, especially if they have more "game" to them. The opportunity here for Frontier is if they can add enough content in the period between now and the release of competitors to establish an insurmountable hurdle; see World of Warcraft when compared to more modern releases.
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In a competitive market like gaming, if Frontier adopts this attitude then they are finished.

There are experienced players (in terms of business) out there and they will dive in if they see there is a market. That is the nature of the beast.

Frontier's only hope is continual improvement, and not treating its user base like they don't matter.

Some of the releases planned for the summer, for example, boast graphics which are so much better than Elite. Elite can only hope to compete if it can offer something more.

Much more.

So far, Horizons, good though it is, is not going to cut it. ED needs to be much more than an updated version of ED on the Beeb which is all it really is so far.
 

ZainlessBrombie

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Even if the company's share price were to be reflective of game content, which is of course ridiculous given that share prices are determined by the market and not review scores and negative forum threads, the recent dip simply mirrors the recent downturns across financial markets across the world.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/...ry/company-summary/GB00BBT32N39GBGBXASQ1.html
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Indirectly, the in-game content does alter the share value, though as you pointed out not directly. If promising content is to be expected, some people will be more tempted to buy share as increasing sales are also to be expected. Right? :)
 

ErikMaintainer

ErikMaintainer
ZainlessBrombie said:
Indirectly, the in-game content does alter the share value, though as you pointed out not directly. If promising content is to be expected, some people will be more tempted to buy share as increasing sales are also to be expected. Right? :)
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Not really. The stock market, be it the FTSE, USDJ, NASDAQ or any other market, has rarely been a consistent indicator of quality or strength of product. If it were then EA's share price would be a shambles.
 
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