General / Off-Topic Frontiers share prize at a 6 months low - reason to worry?

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With all due respect Patrick my friend, expert predictions lead to the 2008 crisis.

At the end of the day, people can't pay more than they can afford any more than they can eat gold.

:) I don't think so. The things are more complex than this. But whatever the reason is, oil compaines, and Russia have 2 chance. They are either pull away the car, or they going to have a frontal collistion. And since they have a weekend car in bad shape, and we have a tank? Guess how is going to end?

We don't stop don't have to! In the matter of fact this is what we want. Ram to them! After that we going to have some unpredictable events as usually you have beyond the even horizon, but one thing is clear. we will be able to walk away from the rubble.

Them? Not so much!
 
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In a competitive market like gaming, if Frontier adopts this attitude then they are finished.

There are experienced players (in terms of business) out there and they will dive in if they see there is a market. That is the nature of the beast.

Frontier's only hope is continual improvement, and not treating its user base like they don't matter.

Some of the releases planned for the summer, for example, boast graphics which are so much better than Elite. Elite can only hope to compete if it can offer something more.

Much more.

So far, Horizons, good though it is, is not going to cut it. ED needs to be much more than an updated version of ED on the Beeb which is all it really is so far.


It looks like your post agreed with what I said, which makes your first sentence difficult to follow. If they adopt the stance where they have to release real content in order to have enough to offer that they don't get crushed by competitors in the future they're finished?
 
share prices are determined by the market and not review scores and negative forum threads

That's a sill thing to say, as an ex-dev who left the games industry for the safer world of enterprise software (after the studio I worked for closed) I can tell you that we cared a lot about our metacritic score. Reviews affect sales sharply and that is the market.
 
They are just like share prices, or MIPS, or pints of milk, or pairs of boots made, or rifles issued.

A completely meaningless abstract measure of something not necessarily tangible or material, that may or may not be important to some people, yet holds concrete meaning for some others. In the grand scheme of things (i.e thermodynamics) it's completely pointless.

A Flimley sounds like a fine measurement for a something though :D

Observer A: "Look over there, there's something in the woods!"

Observer B: "Really? How many Flimleys is it?"

:D


I give this observational analysis of the Flimley scale 8 out of 10 Flimley points. :)
 
That's a sill thing to say, as an ex-dev who left the games industry for the safer world of enterprise software (after the studio I worked for closed) I can tell you that we cared a lot about our metacritic score. Reviews affect sales sharply and that is the market.

I didn't say that secs don't care about review scores, and to clarify - the market I referred to is the stock market rather than the sales market. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 
The video games will be protected from the future financial crises ? People like playing, especially when everything goes wrong, to keep a little joy
 
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Yup, stockmarket doing badly in Aus too, but as usual public spending and employment is up. Nothing like a big flat screen tv and a computer game to ease the woes.
Not worried at all.
 
It looks like your post agreed with what I said, which makes your first sentence difficult to follow. If they adopt the stance where they have to release real content in order to have enough to offer that they don't get crushed by competitors in the future they're finished?

Apologies.

A lesson in not editing a text prior to posting but when you're really tired and no longer concentrating sufficiently. :D
 
First the share price is not necessarily a direct measure of the financial health of a company but rather the market sentiment. Apple can announce record sales and profits yet the share price can fall. Companies can be worth billions on paper yet not have sold a single product (Magic Leap).
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As others have pointed out, the general stock market is falling so a down drift inFD shares is not unexpected.
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FD have been around a while, they are cash positive and have multiple income streams. Their share price really only affects their ability to raise more capital via a share issue. If they don't need to do that it's more or less irrelevant.
 
I didn't say that secs don't care about review scores, and to clarify - the market I referred to is the stock market rather than the sales market. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

The relationship between sales and stock prices is complicated but broadly speaking, better sales means a higher stock price, the two aren't completely independent. But yeh, if stock prices go down it can be for other reasons, such as speculation that a stock will suffer damage because of global market damage etc.. Computer game sales generally do well in recessions because games get used by people to save money and so they consume more in tough times. I.e. don't think I'll go out to a club and a restaurant tonight, I'll play a bit of elite instead ;-)
 
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