Fuel Rats under attack?

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Hello all,

Last night, I took the plunge and finally earned my tail! Yes, I am bragging :):p! In all seriousness, it feels good to be among the helpful and industrious people who go out of their way to help others for nothing more than the satisfaction of seeing the job through. Looking forward to my first real rescue op, hopefully sometime tonight.

But that leads me to my original intent for creating this post.

While I was undergoing evaluation, it was mentioned to me that specific groups of players had begun targeting fuel rats. I wasn't given any names, but this person mentioned to me that they had been the victim of such an attack five times.

My first reaction was to ask "Why?". But, I realize that the nature of this game encourages players to play however they see fit, and attacking a rescuer on his way to help a hapless pilot is fair game. I'm not here to complain that people would do this, because the reasoning behind it is obvious to me: it must be fun.

What I am wondering, however, is which group(s) is/are doing this, and how a novice rat like myself can defend himself. For my ratting ship, I run an asp with low grade shields, max power plant and FSD, dual 32t fuel tanks, A6 fuel scoop, and enough cargo space to hold about 12 limpets. I don't carry weapons for the very reason that they can limit my jump range and power usage, and I can't fit a very strong shield without dropping the larger fuel scoop or using multiple boosters and cell banks.

Because the rats have to operate in Open play most of the time, and it's not feasible to create a private group for the sole purpose of ratting (anyone who has been saved previously now has access to that group for whatever nefarious purpose), this leaves them vulnerable.

Can we, as a community, work to identify the culprits and develop defensive strategies, or would this come to close to "naming and shaming?"

Also, I'll open this discussion to anyone with any opinion about the fuel rats, their adversaries, and so on. I'm just exited to be a part of it and wanted to come here to talk about your experiences with the group.

Apologies if this is an inappropriate topic, or belongs elsewhere (exploration, maybe?). I didn't see anything prohibiting this topic from Dangerous discussion, but I could be wrong.
 
Simple. wing up with an armed escort - a rat with teeth! One can refuel, one can deal with interlopers.
 
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Well, I was invited to join a seemingly abandoned Escort group ( not that kind!) , with the idea of providing escort to players who need them.

Only problem for escorting a fuel rat, is my FDL can only jump 12ly. Lol
 
I have been saved once by the rats and I found their service to be excellent and fast. They provide, and now you are included in this group, a valuable service and one that has helped many a pilot to avoid the insurance screen. There is no accounting for the way people play games like this other than they are a-hats in real life, but not with the balls to be an a-hat to a person's face, so they live out the a-hattery in game instead. It's a sad state of affairs, but one that sadly cannot be avoided. Rest assured, if I am ever in a system when a rat is being attacked while rescuing another stranded player, I will assist the rat!
 
I would advise against playing in open.

Fly solo, when an emergency occurs, create a new private group, invite the rescuee and then perform your operation. Stay ready to combat log in case of betrayal.
When done, disband the group.

Rince and repeat.
 
I have been saved once by the rats and I found their service to be excellent and fast. They provide, and now you are included in this group, a valuable service and one that has helped many a pilot to avoid the insurance screen. There is no accounting for the way people play games like this other than they are a-hats in real life, but not with the balls to be an a-hat to a person's face, so they live out the a-hattery in game instead. It's a sad state of affairs, but one that sadly cannot be avoided. Rest assured, if I am ever in a system when a rat is being attacked while rescuing another stranded player, I will assist the rat!

+1. I've never seen a rat as far as I know and don't know how I'd tell one from any other player. I'd assist any unarmed or poorly armed player that was being attacked though.
 
I can only think the Grinning puppy farm oop's sorry the Smiling Dog Crew (Hysterical name) might be involved or maybe Code have come up with a really great in/out of game reason for attacking the Rats - either way, gratz on getting a tail! :)
 
Unfortunately just as in real life there are intellectually challenged folks out there who throw rocks at firefighters and paramedics. Lowlife.
 
I would advise against playing in open.

Fly solo, when an emergency occurs, create a new private group, invite the rescuee and then perform your operation. Stay ready to combat log in case of betrayal.
When done, disband the group.

Rince and repeat.

The cowards way out... (just my opinion, of course... :D)
 
Surely in an asp you can just high wake beyond the range of any attacker?
I was in my exploration grade Asp, jumped in to a distress call to check it out. I jumped out on 34% hull after losing my shields instantaneously, and that was only against an AI. Against a player any ship not equipped to fight will likely lose quickly
 
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I wouldn't mind a public list of everyone and every group that attacks a rat-in-function. If any rat needs an escort, feel free to drop a note.

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I was in my exploration grade Asp, jumped in to a distress call to check it out. I jumped out on 34% hull after losing my shields instantaneously, and that was only against an AI. Against a player any ship not equipped to fight will likely lose quickly

Precisely. An explorer/long-range asp is shredded in seconds by heavy fighter.
 

Majinvash

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I would advise against playing in open.

Fly solo, when an emergency occurs, create a new private group, invite the rescuee and then perform your operation. Stay ready to combat log in case of betrayal.
When done, disband the group.

Rince and repeat.

Cannot tell if you are trolling or a prime example of everything that is wrong with this game.

Hell why not shield hack at the same time, you know just to make sure.

Majinvash
The Voice of Open
 

First of all, please consider the alternative definition/interpretation of this perceived "altruism."

Second of all, naming and shaming is not allowed on this forum, but you can place bounty on players' heads on other sites.

Thirdly, are you certain that people who are targeting the FR are doing it just for the fun of it without any RP reason?

Finally, a "representative" of the FR approached The Code about the problem, already, so certain level of investigation is already underway. We are also somewhat aware of the identity of the individual/individuals in question, but obviously naming and shaming is not allowed on the this forum.

My advice is to not feed the troll, this kind of thread gives the individual/individuals in question the satisfaction they seek.

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I would advise against playing in open.

Fly solo, when an emergency occurs, create a new private group, invite the rescuee and then perform your operation. Stay ready to combat log in case of betrayal.
When done, disband the group.

Rince and repeat.

Please stop suggesting cheating in any scenario other than a natural disaster.
 
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