Newcomer / Intro Fuels and fuel scooping, I'm confused.

Mohfuu

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So I've been exploring various star systems and I've noticed three things.

1. I seem to have two fuel resources, one for hyper-drive and one for spacecruise.
2. I can deplete the spacecruise fuel and I'll start spending my "reserve tank".
3. The fuel scoop only seems to replenish my hyper-drive fuel.

This has led me to believe that you can't really get that far out of the "civilized" systems.

Is there any point at which my regular "spacecruise" or "normal" fuel will be able to replenish from scooping?
Am I doing something wrong, or is this intentional?
Can I upgrade my fuel scoop to one that actually replenishes both fuels?
Will the scoop only work when I'm spending my reserve tank?
Am I just wrong, or doing something wrong?


I'm asking because I didn't really get a chance to run out of fuel and I'd just like to know more about it in general.

I decided to try to reach a black hole that's somewhere between Sol and the Coalsack nebula (believe the name of the system was HIP 63835)
On my way there I quickly realized my regular fuel was getting dangerously low and I'd have no chance of returning, only to find out later that I had a reserve tank.
I managed to get there but I got a bit too close to the black hole, took a load of heat damage, my window cracked and I had a five minute countdown to get back to a populated system, I only got around half the way back and died choking in vacuum instead simply being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.

So I was in kind of a hurry and didn't get to attempt scooping while running on my reserve tank.
 

DaveB

DaveB
Mohfuu said:
So I've been exploring various star systems and I've noticed three things.

1. I seem to have two fuel resources, one for hyper-drive and one for spacecruise.
2. I can deplete the spacecruise fuel and I'll start spending my "reserve tank".
3. The fuel scoop only seems to replenish my hyper-drive fuel.

This has led me to believe that you can't really get that far out of the "civilized" systems.

Is there any point at which my regular "spacecruise" or "normal" fuel will be able to replenish from scooping?
Am I doing something wrong, or is this intentional?
Can I upgrade my fuel scoop to one that actually replenishes both fuels?
Will the scoop only work when I'm spending my reserve tank?
Am I just wrong, or doing something wrong?


I'm asking because I didn't really get a chance to run out of fuel and I'd just like to know more about it in general.

I decided to try to reach a black hole that's somewhere between Sol and the Coalsack nebula (believe the name of the system was HIP 63835)
On my way there I quickly realized my regular fuel was getting dangerously low and I'd have no chance of returning, only to find out later that I had a reserve tank.
I managed to get there but I got a bit too close to the black hole, took a load of heat damage, my window cracked and I had a five minute countdown to get back to a populated system, I only got around half the way back and died choking in vacuum instead simply being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.

So I was in kind of a hurry and didn't get to attempt scooping while running on my reserve tank.
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Don't call it "reserve" call it the "active reservoir".

The active reservoir serves your regular ship power, the drives in supercruise etc. If you empty it, it is automatically replenished from the main tank.

Hyperjumps, on the other hand, take a comparatively large amount of fuel, so those draw directly from the main tank.

Scooping refills the main tank.


If you wanted to, you could scoop until the main tank is full, fly around doing whatever silly stuff you wanted until your active reservoir got refilled from the main tank then scoop again to top off the main tank. Practically, however, the active reservoir is a small enough fraction of your total fuel reserves there isn't much point.
 

Eleazaros

Eleazaros
Fuel automatically transfers from the main tank to the navigation tank when it runs out. The navigation tanks are trivial in size compared to the main tank.

Fuel scoops only fill the main tank. It will automatically move some fuel to the nav tank when it gets low so don't let that bother you. It's a very small tank.

2 items to look at getting for such long runs: 1) Better life support. 2) Self-repair module.

The self repair will fix most any system in your ship. If you're flying like I am (an Adder), pull that spare 2 slot cargo out and put in the self repair module.

That's my game plan "when I'm rich enough". :)
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
I think the way it works is this: you have a main tank and a supercruise tank. When you hyperspace to another system you tap directly into the main tank. When you supercruise you tap from the supercruise tank or reserve and when ti runs out it'll replenish itself from the main tank. So if you're scooping you will only refill the main tank as that is the only one that seems to be connected to the fuel scoop system. Ideally to have a fully topped up ship you need to fly off until the supercruise reserve is refilled and then go fuel scooping but that's too much work. So you're not doing anything wrong. it's just the game mechanic at the moment.
 

>WP< Troublepilot

>WP< Troublepilot
It's the same fuel, however you have an Active Fuel Reservoir (AFR or what you called it spacecruise fuel) and a main tank (or what you called it hyper-drive fuel).

The AFR can hold 1t of fuel and is automatically filled up from the main tank once it's empty.


Therefore you can explore as far as you want with the scoop :) I hope that helps.


P.S.DDA "I'm just here for the gasoline" Fuel in Elite Dangerous gives also some infos, however not everything is implemented yet.
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Eleazaros said:
Fuel automatically transfers from the main tank to the navigation tank when it runs out. The navigation tanks are trivial in size compared to the main tank.

Fuel scoops only fill the main tank. It will automatically move some fuel to the nav tank when it gets low so don't let that bother you. It's a very small tank.

2 items to look at getting for such long runs: 1) Better life support. 2) Self-repair module.

The self repair will fix most any system in your ship. If you're flying like I am (an Adder), pull that spare 2 slot cargo out and put in the self repair module.

That's my game plan "when I'm rich enough". :)
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Careful though the field repair unit only fixes your equipment not ship's hull so you still have to be careful with taking damage far out.
 
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