Each game could have its own unique identifier (encrypted) --a bit like each copy of Windows has its own unique licence code. That way it doesn't matter where you log on from; you cheat, your licence is revoked. The only way to resolve that is to buy a new game. Can't fake the code either; it's generated with an encrypted algorithm.
FYI: user posts a video of a cheater who clearly admits it, laughing about FD soft hand, and FD take immediate action
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Each game could have its own unique identifier (encrypted) --a bit like each copy of Windows has its own unique licence code. That way it doesn't matter where you log on from; you cheat, your licence is revoked. The only way to resolve that is to buy a new game. Can't fake the code either; it's generated with an encrypted algorithm.
Shadowbanning is not sufficient. A full game save wipe should also occur.
In the scenario described in the OP, the player in question was accused of, and himself strongly implied that he was, using exploits to create a permashield cheat. Not only does this give him an advantage over other players, more importanty it gives him an advantage over the environment, by giving him more opportunities to create an advantage over other players as and when such encounters occur. He might even still use the exploit while being shadowbanned, giving him ample time and resources to be even stronger the next time.
By enforcing a full game wipe, not only do you undo some of the personal gains made by an exploit, you also set him back to the very beginning of his story, sending him a message that you mean business. Plus, you can then objectively see if he's still cheating, or cheating more - in which case, permaban.
True story. New account every time.
HWID bans were a thing but in other games they found a way around it.
Then the games companies found a way around that.
And so it continues.
Never stops.
Some ppl cheat, some ppl just want to enjoy the game.
Personally,
I like my games companies to let those who appreciate and enjoy the game without cheating to hold sway on how they deal with cheaters.
Can't say the same for EA, that's why their FPS titles are failing hard. They even made the mistake of trying to increase the ttk in Hardline so ppl wouldn't notice so easily yet, dead game 4 months in. Wasn't it's only issue though, lack of content and discontent from BF4 failing at launch were others.
I just hope they're keeping a close eye on it.
As for 1 week Shadow bans...same was said for FF bans in BF4.
It wasn't the case...only a similar claim made on a forum such as this.
If you think you won't get banned for cheating, don't say I didn't warn you because they have no reason to let you back in once caught.
You can still play the game so you have no grounds to offer any case, as well as having broken the TOS.
That's if they just shadow ban you....they may nerf you permanently which is their right, if you broke their terms which you signed up to.
Learn to play, you'll have no idea until you try to.
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Most of them use cheat engine in the first place to leave their ship logged on with shield hacks and turrets in cz to earn their money in the first place. By wiping their saves more people will see that it's not worth it. The guy probably cheated up to his ship in the first place, shadow bans are not enough.
What's the point of "shadow" banning a player if they are aware they have been banned? Wipe their stats and they'll know for sure.
I can't see it being too hard to work out if you have been, but wiping their saves will not show anyone anything unless they just get rid of the player permanently. Stats wipes are traditionally linked to account death in other games.
The full game save wipe should include the wiping of all credits, ships, assets, achievements including discovery tags, statistics, rep and rankings. Start again in a Sidewinder and 1000Cr. And maybe as an added measure, reset their global rep to Hostile to everybody.
And it never gets paid off or expires. Yes I am evil.The full game save wipe should include the wiping of all credits, ships, assets, achievements including discovery tags, statistics, rep and rankings. Start again in a Sidewinder and 1000Cr. And maybe as an added measure, reset their global rep to Hostile to everybody.
For me, the more contorted and extreme our attempts to deal with cheaters are, the more they will wear the punishment as a badge of honour! As someone said in this thread, they don't play the game to play the game, they cheat the game because for them that is the game. Whilst I want to hang them upside down by their unmentionables, I'm just playing into their Psyche going down that road. This is also why we should probably not be having huge threads fulfilling their god complexes (well aware of the irony of posting and thus contributing to said type of thread!!! I will beat myself thoroughly in due course!!!)
Shadow ban works for me, though a week is of course not enough, even for a first timer. In this case of a premeditated cheat, permanent shadow ban or complete ban is in my opinion the answer. They want to play, buy a new account and start again.
Theatrics.... I think they are counterproductive.... For it to work, we should never know it happened.
Shadow ban works for me, though a week is of course not enough, even for a first timer. In this case of a premeditated cheat, permanent shadow ban or complete ban is in my opinion the answer. They want to play, buy a new account and start again.
Theatrics.... I think they are counterproductive.... For it to work, we should never know it happened.
Let them buy more accounts to keep playing, and keep getting shadowbanned, gamewiped, and then permabanned, leading them to buy more accounts to keep playing more. More money to Frontier.
The full game save wipe should include the wiping of all credits, ships, assets, achievements including discovery tags, statistics, rep and rankings. Start again in a Sidewinder and 1000Cr. And maybe as an added measure, reset their global rep to Hostile to everybody.
The whole purpose of a "shadow" ban is to isolate a player from the player base and the game so they can no longer affect it or the players. Yet, at the same point, can still play the game.
Old school hack prevention btw. Doesn't really work, they get mad and it's all too easy. I'd tell you why but you'll be more likely to blame FD for it than anything else.
I'm just kinda interested to see how the shadow banning thing goes.
The more I think on this, the easier he got off.
He used an 'infinite shield' hack, so it's possible that he rushed through getting obscene amounts of money doing as Distance speculated [Thanks. Would +Rep you for that, but apparently can't. I hadn't even considered that before.] and leaving turreted weapons live in a CZ and going AFK. While he is "Shadowbanned" he could easily be doing the same thing. Either way, he has also let slip that he has at least one other account so he doesn't have to be isolated from the playerbase, he can be straight back in, using the same software that must be on his computer and therefore available for any account played on that computer.
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FD have proof of his cheating, he ought to get a save reset at minimum because he cannot prove that he made whatever money and assets he has 'legally' within the game mechanics. I severely doubt he has any discovery tags on that account, because that takes effort and he doesn't sound like he can be bothered, but yes, everything should be wiped so he starts with a brand new commander, the prefix [CHTR] not [CMDR], 500Cr, and a stock sidey. AT MINIMUM. No excuse for using external software to modify the game, can't be done 'accidentally', no reason to believe 'education' will sink in. Save wipe or permaban.
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Heck, I've done nothing wrong, yet I've not played in well over a week and it's not troubled me to do so with only a single account. Why should a week-long shadowban bother a confirmed cheater with more than one account?
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OK, if he's only been doing it for a day and got a week ban, he might think twice, but who here believes that's the case? He could have been doing it on multiple accounts since Beta, and if this is the first time he's been caught, he probably thinks it's a lower risk than playing a pirate in the game.
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Agreed. He was punished for doing wrong, but he got the wrong punishment, to the extent that by being allowed to continue playing the game in the manner that he can, he might have even regarded it as a gift.
Is it worth FD's time and within their rights to trawl through IP addresses or even account purchase transaction methods to identify multi accounts created to circumvent bans?
1 week shadowban? 1 year is not enough for cheaters!
Without doubt this is the, the one and only way to stop those who want to harm the game, for the Lulz, they dont care about the player base they care even less about the long term viability of a game.
it is pointless trying to educate them, as many of them are not even hackers just "script Kiddies" they only want to break things...