Galaxy Map is made of lies

[who?]

I had trade data, otherwise there would be no trade arrow on the galaxy map, right?

The galaxy map continued to show me the incorrect trade arrow while I was actually docked at the only station in the system.

Not necessarily. If I have trade data for a neighbouring system (call it "A") it might show system "B" as a source of a given commodity, so there would be an arrow in the galaxy map from B -> A. But then I found if you buy trade data for "B", you often find arrows for that commodity going into "B" as well.

If you want to be certain a system is a source of that commodity, I think it's best to make sure you've bought trade data for that system and there are no incoming arrows. Don't just rely on one or more outgoing arrows.

(Note - there definitely could be bugs! But countless times I was caught out by the above, and the tip above seems to make it much more reliable).

 

[Queex]

Not necessarily. If I have trade data for a neighbouring system (call it "A") it might show system "B" as a source of a given commodity, so there would be an arrow in the galaxy map from B -> A. But then I found if you buy trade data for "B", you often find arrows for that commodity going into "B" as well.

If you want to be certain a system is a source of that commodity, I think it's best to make sure you've bought trade data for that system and there are no incoming arrows. Don't just rely on one or more outgoing arrows.

(Note - there definitely could be bugs! But countless times I was caught out by the above, and the tip above seems to make it much more reliable).

But if I'm docked at 'B' - surely I have the trade data for there?

 

[ick]

Is the galaxy map run on the same server as Hillary Clinton's email?

 

[Paineframe]

I think you misunderstood the OP, this has nothing to do with missions.
He's talking about the commodity filter on the map. You know, the one where it shows the pretty colored lines that show what type of commodities are being moved and the direction of shipments. It's how you know where to find specific commodities... or at least is supposed to be.

His English is a bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure he's suggesting that there might be another station in the system which does sell those goods but which the OP did not detect due to not honking the system.

 

[Sentenza]

I am firmly convinced the trade map is just made up, manually created at the start but never updated. It has no relation with actual trade flows.

 

[Queex]

Is the galaxy map run on the same server as Hillary Clinton's email?

It's definitely as believable as Trump's doctor's note...

 

[Slopey]

Trade data is totally useless, use one of the external tools if you actually want to know if something is there (and how much it costs) or not.

Unfortunately, FD don't want to fix it, so we're stuck with the "imported/exported" for now, and it's mostly inaccurate.

 

[Sardu]

as others have said

this games in-game tools are absent or broken and your best bet is to use external tools

So the *PRIMARY MAP* in-game; the very thing all players, and especially new players, will use to get around is *known* to be broken. So broken in fact that we're supposed to use third-party applications to once again supplement something missing or broken in-game.

So if FDEV aware? Are they planning to fix it? Any communication on this at all?

 

[Monk]

So the *PRIMARY MAP* in-game. The very thing all players, and especially new players, will use to get around is *known* to be broken. So broken that we're supposed to use third-party applications to once again supplement something missing or broken in-game.

So if FDEV aware? Are they planning to fix it? Any communication on this at all?

Of course they are aware. A fix is likely in the works but nowhere near done or nowhere near the top of priorities.

Unless...they think it is working as designed, then I think we should get a better break down of what is going on to address the inconsistency that people see.

 

[who?]

But if I'm docked at 'B' - surely I have the trade data for there?

Ah, if you're docked at station "B" and in the Galaxy Map there are outgoing and no incoming routes for that commodity at B, but that commodity isn't available, then yes I'd assume that's a bug.

 

[Sardu]

Of course they are aware. A fix is likely in the works but nowhere near done or nowhere near the top of priorities.

Unless...they think it is working as designed, then I think we should get a better break down of what is going on to address the inconsistency that people see.

Not a priority? Their MAIN MAP is broken. How is this not Red Alert at FDEV with communication about an incoming fix? This is like playing WoW and the main map being so broken that the cities are in different places than shown. Players, especially new players, are wasting their time believing the games MAIN MAP. Wasting their time in a game already filled to the brim with time-sinks.

 

[Winterwalker]

Highlighted through mining and rares trading, with legal commodities if there's no particular demand, but you have cans onboard, they do appear in the commodities market, so no worries you can sell them. Now you have no cargo though, commodity disappears from the market. It could be happening with OP supply commodities, you might expect to see in the market but if no stock, there's no listing. Not especially helpful to the OP I know, but wonder if the Galaxy Map is more of a fantasist then, than actual pants on fire.

In any case it's an area I'd like to see improved. For eg. when you buy trade data, it would be nice if the prices downloaded into the commodity market so you could gauge how much profit per ton before you load. The trade arrows are interesting but as you can already guess pretty often, agri economy exports foodstuffs as a rule, industry imports it, I'd hope to get a bit more info for my 100 creds? I'd pay 1000 at least though, for current stock prices dropped in next to the commodities listing, comparing buying/selling prices between stations.

Spoiler

Glengarry, Glenross

[video=youtube;Y3EvCIU7gb8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3EvCIU7gb8[/video]

 

[Monk]

Not a priority? Their MAIN MAP is broken. How is this not Red Alert at FDEV with communication about an incoming fix? This is like playing WoW and the main map being so broken that the cities are in different places than shown. Players, especially new players, are wasting their time believing the games MAIN MAP. Wasting their time in a game already filled to the brim with time-sinks.

Well, the Main Map isn't broken. It's primary purpose of navigation works well. This is a layer that is possibly broken, an important layer. Effort to fix may be suppressing its priority in addition to the availability of 3rd party tools

 

[Sardu]

Well, the Main Map isn't broken. It's primary purpose of navigation works well. This is a layer that is possibly broken, an important layer. Effort to fix may be suppressing its priority in addition to the availability of 3rd party tools

Perhaps, but way, way too many people here see third party tools as a solution rather than a symptom of a problem.

 

[verminstar]

Look on the bright side...at least ye went to a system with something to dock on. I remember doing trade runs to systems with nothing to dock on...beat that fer upto date information ^^