GALNET - PRINCESS AISLING ECHOES AEGIS REFORMATION CALLS - 16 JAN 3309

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Princess Aisling Echoes Aegis Reformation Calls

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PRINCESS AISLING ECHOES AEGIS REFORMATION CALLS​

16 JAN 3309
Princess Aisling Duval has publicly asked Emperor Arissa Lavigny-Duval to reconsider pledging Imperial resources to a cross-superpower anti-xeno initiative.
Her message was shared on all Imperial newsfeeds:
“The Empire’s capability to defend itself is not in question. But neither is there any doubt that we are facing a protracted war. The ferocity and scale of the Thargoid onslaught on human space is unprecedented. Of course the Empire will survive, as it has for over a millennium… but at what cost? How many systems must fall? How many citizens will grieve for lost loved ones?”
“Emperor Arissa, I implore you: work with the Alliance and Federation to reform Aegis. Our combined resources are needed to develop new technologies to overcome the alien armadas. Corporate interests must not dictate this path. Let Imperial ingenuity and courage light the way to victory over a common enemy.”
A handful of senators supported Princess Aisling’s plea initially, though others have criticised her for daring to challenge the Emperor’s decree. As yet there has been no response from the Imperial Palace.
Gudrun Vestergaard , royal correspondent for The Imperial Herald, commented:
“There is speculation that this may cause friction between Aisling and her cousin Hadrian Duval, whose long-held isolationist beliefs are now aligned with Imperial policy. Until now both have enjoyed a close relationship, with Aisling even being chosen as honour-mother to Hadrian’s baby son Hector. But their views on Imperial foreign policy could not be more different, and recent events have brought this into sharp focus.”
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
This you, Aisling?

“The people are scared,” she said. “They fear that their way of life – their very existence – might vanish unless more is done to protect them. I’m not convinced Aegis is capable of doing so. The Empire has invested heavily in the organisation. Are we sure the other powers have done the same?”
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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Danieros said:
3304, that's way before the HIP Salvation incident which showed precisely that concern is no longer a problem, other superpowers investing heavily in the xeno front.
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She cast the first stone that pushed opinion away from AEGIS when it was doing a slow yet decent job. Thanks to her Salvation was allowed to metastasize in that vacuum when AEGIS were picked apart and here we are, full circle.

The womans a menace frankly, as well as a hypocrite since she is backed by corporate interests herself (from her Powerplay UI bio).
 

Danieros

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Rubbernuke said:
She cast the first stone that pushed opinion away from AEGIS when it was doing a slow yet decent job. Thanks to her Salvation was allowed to metastasize in that vacuum when AEGIS were picked apart and here we are, full circle.

The womans a menace frankly, as well as a hypocrite since she is backed by corporate interests herself (from her Powerplay UI bio).
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Well the whole xeno front back then was invading and harvesting their barnacles, back when the thargoids weren't even aggressive. Unless you were holding thargoid body parts in your cargo hold, that is.

If you're going by the PP UI, you also know what is the optimal thing to do with these corporations after they've been expanded into.

Aisling is brilliant, hopefully Arissa listens to her and we can get some wider superpower effort going, like the independent commander organizations have been doing.
 

Rainbro

Rainbro
Aisling's original criticisms of Aegis were valid. Azimuth being bad doesn't magically make Aegis good, ideally we wouldn't have anyone escalating the Thargoid war but that's evidently too optimistic, take one down and another comes in to fill the gap in the market. At the very least we could not go backwards, though.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Rainbro said:
Aisling's original criticisms of Aegis were valid.
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IMO they were not, simply because there were too many unknowns to form a long term strategy re the Thargoids, not to mention Tanner was right in that there was no mass attack (unlike now). Asling gave validity to other detractors (including another dodgy character, Nexus) and probably influenced the nutters in Socho. She should have known better considering AEGIS had so many moving parts and I find the irony in her now wanting AEGIS back.
 

DemiserofD

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Of course she wants Aegis; she's the weakest of the Imperial powers militarily, I'm sure she'd love forcing everyone else to do her dirty work.
 

Rainbro

Rainbro
Rubbernuke said:
IMO they were not, simply because there were too many unknowns to form a long term strategy re the Thargoids, not to mention Tanner was right in that there was no mass attack (unlike now).
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The criticism actually came shortly after some of those unknowns were formally dispelled. The line about "“It has taken far too long for Aegis to determine why the Thargoids are attacking" is referring to this GalNet, where it was revealed (by Ram Tah, mainly) that the Thargoids were attacking because humanity had occupied the Pleiades, with many of Aegis's actions contributing to that. Then Aisling comes along a few weeks later to ask what Aegis actually intends to do with this information, since they aren't saying. "and it’s not clear what their strategy is now." She's asking what strategy they're going to employ now that we know what the Thargoids want.

Could argue that Aegis needed more time than that (in which case the criticism of Aegis being slow has grounds). I consider the question valid anyway because now of course we know what Aegis intended to do with that information - all. Their next big move after learning that the Thargoids didn't like them invading their territory for the barnacles, was to invade Witch Head for the barnacles.

Also, this was around the time that the first incursions into the bubble had started, which I'd consider a mass attack.
the nutters in Socho
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As the prime nutter in Socho, I was mostly going off Salome's Reqiuem. Nowadays I don't need to rely on it :p
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Rainbro said:
The criticism actually came shortly after some of those unknowns were formally dispelled. The line about "“It has taken far too long for Aegis to determine why the Thargoids are attacking" is referring to this GalNet, where it was revealed (by Ram Tah, mainly) that the Thargoids were attacking because humanity had occupied the Pleiades, with many of Aegis's actions contributing to that. Then Aisling comes along a few weeks later to ask what Aegis actually intends to do with this information, since they aren't saying. "and it’s not clear what their strategy is now." She's asking what strategy they're going to employ now that we know what the Thargoids want.

Could argue that Aegis needed more time than that (in which case the criticism of Aegis being slow has grounds). I consider the question valid anyway because now of course we know what Aegis intended to do with that information - all. Their next big move after learning that the Thargoids didn't like them invading their territory for the barnacles, was to invade Witch Head for the barnacles.

Also, this was around the time that the first incursions into the bubble had started, which I'd consider a mass attack.

As the prime nutter in Socho, I was mostly going off Salome's Reqiuem. Nowadays I don't need to rely on it :p
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AEGIS co-ordinated with Ram Tah (as well as 'help' tech brokers too).

If Aisling had any sense she'd know that AEGIS is driven by the superpowers that fund it, so she'd have better luck asking Aunty, Prez and the Other One since it was up to them ultimately what it does.
 

Rainbro

Rainbro
Rubbernuke said:
AEGIS co-ordinated with Ram Tah (as well as 'help' tech brokers too).
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That's why I said next big move, funding tech brokers and working with engineers is cool and all, but not super relevant to this.
If Aisling had any sense she'd know that AEGIS is driven by the superpowers that fund it, so she'd have better luck asking Aunty, Prez and the Other One since it was up to them ultimately what it does.
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I dunno, everyone else seemed to hear about her public interview, I doubt anyone involved with Aegis would have been more forthcoming about their plans being either nonexistent or actively harmful if she had addressed it directly to them instead of everyone.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Rainbro said:
That's why I said next big move, funding tech brokers and working with engineers is cool and all, but not super relevant to this.

I dunno, everyone else seemed to hear about her public interview, I doubt anyone involved with Aegis would have been more forthcoming about their plans being either nonexistent or actively harmful if she had addressed it directly to them instead of everyone.
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Its her playing politics, because she would have known how AEGIS is operated and what they could say.

Re Tah and the Brokers, it was showing that AEGIS was more than just active defense. Again Aisling should know that but chose to needle more.
 

Rainbro

Rainbro
Rubbernuke said:
Its her playing politics, because she would have known how AEGIS is operated and what they could say.
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Not sure what you mean, if you're suggesting that Aegis just couldn't respond to a question like this then that'd be weird. I don't see anything about their structure that'd make it impossible for them to say what they're going to do about Ram Tah's report that they already published and commented on at the time of release. And it's just a coincidence that their plan turned out to be to ignore its findings?
Re Tah and the Brokers, it was showing that AEGIS was more than just active defense. Again Aisling should know that but chose to needle more.
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Okay,, Aegis did some things not related to the report's findings. That's a defence against someone saying that Aegis did nothing, which I'm not. Doesn't put Aisling in the wrong for asking if Aegis has any long term plans.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Rainbro said:
Not sure what you mean, if you're suggesting that Aegis just couldn't respond to a question like this then that'd be weird. I don't see anything about their structure that'd make it impossible for them to say what they're going to do about Ram Tah's report that they already published and commented on at the time of release. And it's just a coincidence that their plan turned out to be to ignore its findings?

Okay,, Aegis did some things not related to the report's findings. That's a defence against someone saying that Aegis did nothing, which I'm not. Doesn't put Aisling in the wrong for asking if Aegis has any long term plans.
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AEGIS is driven by the superpowers, it answers to them and what they ask it to do- but also sometimes there are things I imagine it can't say or respond to either because behind closed doors the landscape is different.
 
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