Hardware & Technical Gaming PC Build

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GSRTrent said:
I'm looking at this now.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128863

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Sorry didn't see that you guys replied before I posted. The motherboard you posted seems good (I really don't know much about these things). But take a look at the one I posted here and see what your think. And I already bought the case... I like the red/black theme I have going on.
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Gotta' love red & black. Mine's the same. Got a Zalman Z11 Plus with red lighting on the fans. Thinking of getting an LED strip to light it up some more. :D

Sorry, nothing constructive here. I just had to comment on the aesthetics. :)
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Looks like an ok build.

I'd note a few things, though:
- like CMDR CosmicSpaceHead, I'd go for plain RAM. Those fancy heat spreaders have no technical effect.
- I doubt that with ED you'll notice any difference in speed from the faster SSD. Not unless you're literally sitting next to the server and are directly plugged into it.
- if your budget stretches that far, add a CPU cooler. The boxed cooler is kind of ok, an aftermarket cooler has the potential to be much quiter. I like the Cryorig C1.
- for personal reasons, I would never buy anything from BenQ. Nothing to do with the quality of their products, I can't comment on that, but with the way they treated the developers (us) after buying up a German mobile phone development department. The term "Heuschrecken" ("Locusts") was coined for that kind of behaviour.
 

GSRTrent

GSRTrent
V8UC ALICORN said:
Gotta' love red & black. Mine's the same. Got a Zalman Z11 Plus with red lighting on the fans. Thinking of getting an LED strip to light it up some more. :DSorry, nothing constructive here. I just had to comment on the aesthetics. :)
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Haha thanks man.
Ashnak said:
Looks like an ok build. I'd note a few things, though:- like CMDR CosmicSpaceHead, I'd go for plain RAM. Those fancy heat spreaders have no technical effect.- I doubt that with ED you'll notice any difference in speed from the faster SSD. Not unless you're literally sitting next to the server and are directly plugged into it.- if your budget stretches that far, add a CPU cooler. The boxed cooler is kind of ok, an aftermarket cooler has the potential to be much quiter. I like the Cryorig C1.- for personal reasons, I would never buy anything from BenQ. Nothing to do with the quality of their products, I can't comment on that, but with the way they treated the developers (us) after buying up a German mobile phone development department. The term "Heuschrecken" ("Locusts") was coined for that kind of behaviour.
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Didn't know this about BenQ. Any other 24" monitors for that price range? Can you elaborate more on "plain RAM?" I guess I'll have to do some more reading about the SSD I have on my build list. I know it's more money but it sure is nice.As far as ED goes. I'll have it on the computer but I probably won't play it on the computer (since I play on xbox) unless they can transfer xbox to pc in the future? I have a fully combat and fully engineered vette... and I really don't want to do that all over again.But there are a few other games I would like to play, such as Planet Coaster and possibly Star Citizen. Overall I need a new computer as my current laptop is near death. I have to push the volume button to get it to power up (don't ask I have no idea). Pretty sure the motherboard is fried. So, instead of going to best buy and buying an off the shelf laptop/pc, I figured I would build one to handle gaming and still be able to do normal computer stuff form time to time.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
24" monitor: just check what the dealer has to offer. If I look over here, I can see ASUS, Acer, Samsung, AOC, HannsG or LG in the same bracket, give or take a couple of Euros. iiyama and ViewSonic are more expensive, and you probably wouldn't want to know about Eizo.

plain RAM: check Kingston ValueRAM. Of course, if you want to do a visual build with a window on the side, that'd spoil it.

SSD: I was only talking about ED. In general, the time for the loading screen will be (to some extent) determined by the speed of the mass storage. In ED, though, it's usually determined by the server connection.

The main difference between an allround PC and a gaming rig will be the graphics card - for an allround PC, you won't need one. My build is now a year old. Has the then current i5-4690k, SATA-SSD, 2 HDDs (storage and backup in a hot swap frame) and GTX960 GPU. Since I also want to do some image processing (on a Linux virtual machine), I built it with full complement of RAM (32 GB).

If you want to use your PC for other stuff than gaming and surfing, I'd strongly recommend a backup strategy. Locky is a reality. What I'm using is two drives and a hot swap frame. The drives hold both the regular windows backup and a restore partition for windows (using a tool form a German computer magazine, c't) and get swapped out more or less irregular. To make it approach something serious, I really should store the 'cold' drive in another place (e.g. my office).
 

GSRTrent

GSRTrent
Ashnak said:
24" monitor: just check what the dealer has to offer. If I look over here, I can see ASUS, Acer, Samsung, AOC, HannsG or LG in the same bracket, give or take a couple of Euros. iiyama and ViewSonic are more expensive, and you probably wouldn't want to know about Eizo.plain RAM: check Kingston ValueRAM. Of course, if you want to do a visual build with a window on the side, that'd spoil it.SSD: I was only talking about ED. In general, the time for the loading screen will be (to some extent) determined by the speed of the mass storage. In ED, though, it's usually determined by the server connection.The main difference between an allround PC and a gaming rig will be the graphics card - for an allround PC, you won't need one. My build is now a year old. Has the then current i5-4690k, SATA-SSD, 2 HDDs (storage and backup in a hot swap frame) and GTX960 GPU. Since I also want to do some image processing (on a Linux virtual machine), I built it with full complement of RAM (32 GB).If you want to use your PC for other stuff than gaming and surfing, I'd strongly recommend a backup strategy. Locky is a reality. What I'm using is two drives and a hot swap frame. The drives hold both the regular windows backup and a restore partition for windows (using a tool form a German computer magazine, c't) and get swapped out more or less irregular. To make it approach something serious, I really should store the 'cold' drive in another place (e.g. my office).
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You lost me near the end there lol. I'm pretty sure my build will be just fine for gaming and surfing the web? I hope? And I have some video editing software that I use from time to time. Hope that works well, too.
 
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Ashnak

Ashnak
Ok, it was not about the working - that's going to be fine.

But there are chances that your system will stop working, for various reasons. Some of them to do with the reliability of your hardware, some of them with external threats. One of the latter is a virus called "Locky" (and a few others, working on the same general lines) which will encrypt the data on your system and then demand you to pay a ransom to the distributors of that virus in order to get your data again.

Paying that ransom may get you your data back or may not.

In order to be better protected against these types of attacks, or simply failures in your hardware, it is recommended to hava a backup, i.e. a copy of (all of) your data. If you're only gaming, and all you have to lose are your high scores, that's usually not worth the effort. If you have personal data opn your PC, like tax declarations or your pictures (or movies) or things you actually need to earn your living, it can be a bit more important to be able to restore these data.

For this backup, there are several possibilities - the simplest one is just using a second HDD and have some tools that are part of the operating system automatically copy everything to that second drive. Using two (physical) disks and swapping them periodically reduces the risk further and usually is the least of what is recommended by IT professionals. They also recommend storing the currently unused disk in a different location, so that in the case of a burglary or a fire this disk is unaffected.

Hope this clears up the confusion somewhat.
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
Yaffle said:
PC building isn't as scary as it sounds though. Most of the physical bits will only go in one way, and that way is pretty obvious. While we're not self-build specialists, you can cry for help here, or in general the internet is full of people who will have seen the problem before.

I quite enjoy doing it, being a tad sad I use watercooling too.

Ooh, look at me, right on the edge there...
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Hehe, I had a job repairing and building PCs once.

I is specialist!

Heh. But no, don't ask me too much.
I'm woefully out of date these days.

And motherboards are my Achilles's Heel of PC building. I quite literally just pick the one I like the colours of.
"If I fits, I sits."
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
No real need for a Z170 board if you're not getting a K chip. H170 or B150M will do nicely.

spend the saved cash on a GTX1070.

On a side note, I think I'd go for an Asus, Gigabyte or Asrock Mobo, the PC overclocking forum I am on shows, historically, that MSI have not yet matured with their mobo's. Everything else, they are fine.

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winterknight

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Shouldn't you be looking at the Z170- Gaming3X if you go for a Nvidia GPU.

The H170 is superseded technology and the you should be getting an SLi capable motherboard.
 

winterknight

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GSRTrent said:
I think I'm going with the Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 6 ATX LGA1151. Thoughts on this?
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That should be fine, looking at your original listing of parts, I wonder if the PSU isn't a bit overkill. I'm running a I5 4690K and GTX 670 (yeah I know it's old) on a 450W PSU and not seen it draw over 300W, as measured on a kill-a-watt meter
https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472485334&sr=8-1&keywords=kill+a+watt
one of the best gadgets for computer builders.
 
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