"Gendered" titles
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Like her player, my commander is also female.
And I disagree with gendered titles. To apply gender to a job-role or title implies that there is a key difference between it being held by a man or a woman (or any other you care to identify with). As neither has a particular advantage or suitability at holding the token title of "Lord", I don't see the need for a gendered title.
And I disagree with gendered titles. To apply gender to a job-role or title implies that there is a key difference between it being held by a man or a woman (or any other you care to identify with). As neither has a particular advantage or suitability at holding the token title of "Lord", I don't see the need for a gendered title.
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I second this. If Aisling Duval can be a Princess, we can too!
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Yeah, what about her?
I support changing the imperial ranks to the female versions. 
lol how dare you can say a female can´t be a lord thats so 90
My Comander is biologicly female but identifies as a AH 64 Apache...change my mind
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Exactly.
Now you've done it - next time I log in, she'll be "Prince Aisling Duval".
Simple solution, make all the Imperial titles the female version then, for EVERYONE.... should not matter to any boys out there, it is just honorary titles anyway, right?
Um a female Lord is a um a Lord.
This discussion is mental. Even in the ED lore the titles of the Empire are gender-specific. It is Princess Aisling Duval, not Prince Aisling Duval. It is absolutely common sense that female cmdrs can obtain gendered ranks, and nobody minds it at all whenever FD already done it. They havent yet done it for player ranks, but suggesting it is reasonable and sensible.
To frame this in the inevitable terms of SJW: Noble ranks are IRL very much gender-specific, and in a very peculiar way as well. For example, in the Netherlands a 'queen' is formally 'the wife of the male monarch'. If a woman is the monarch, she is king, and her husband is a prince. King beats queen, and a queen never rules. Obviously we dont really use these formal etiquette anymore, and we use the gendered terms with power equivalence. The debate is about whether you can use non-gendered terms that historically have had gendered connotations, or whether non-gendered titles should be new and designed as such.
Anyway, this king needs more wine.
To frame this in the inevitable terms of SJW: Noble ranks are IRL very much gender-specific, and in a very peculiar way as well. For example, in the Netherlands a 'queen' is formally 'the wife of the male monarch'. If a woman is the monarch, she is king, and her husband is a prince. King beats queen, and a queen never rules.
Obviously we dont really use these formal etiquette anymore, and we use the gendered terms with power equivalence. The debate is about whether you can use non-gendered terms that historically have had gendered connotations, or whether non-gendered titles should be new and designed as such.Anyway, this king needs more wine.
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http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Arissa_Lavigny-Duval
Emperor Arissa Lavigny-Duval
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/18-OCT-3301
"Today, dawn broke above an expectant Capitol as Imperial citizens awaited the coronation of the first female Emperor (the Imperial Senate having determined that 'Emperor' should be used for both male and female rulers)."
As for the Lord/Lady topic, Lord is not actually gender specific, while Lady is.
Queen Elizabeth II, has the title Lord of Mann. She is also, Duke of Normandy, and Duke of Lancaster.
As for gender specific prince/princess.
That's a royalty thing, not a navy thing. Naval rank of Prince =/= Actual Royal Prince/Princess. No player commander would ever have a royal title.
Why? Because you the player, as an individual entity within the elite universe, don't matter. That is something elite prides itself upon.
The combined efforts of all commanders within the pilot's federation however, that is shown to matter.
Within the Empire, to say your ""official"" title should be gender specific when you are issued a non specific one, would be to say that you are as important as royalty, and that, you, a mercenary under the impression that you're actually nobility (who don't get gender specific titles in the Empire anyway), deserve it.
One of the many Senators would gladly order your execution for some favor with the royalty.
Not only is your naval rank not officially recognized, it can be freely revoked at any time by a senator quite easily. Simply because you're annoying them by asking for a different title.
You're an HONORARY Lord. A RANK within the Imperial Navy. Not an officially held noble title. Were you an official citizen of the Empire however, things could be a bit different, and if you worked hard enough you could become an ACTUAL Lord, and your title would still be Lord. However were you to be an official citizen, you could try to run for a position in the Senate and go from there, trying to get yourself a gender specific title.
So in short, gender specific naval ranks is a no.
Emperor Arissa Lavigny-Duval
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/18-OCT-3301
"Today, dawn broke above an expectant Capitol as Imperial citizens awaited the coronation of the first female Emperor (the Imperial Senate having determined that 'Emperor' should be used for both male and female rulers)."
As for the Lord/Lady topic, Lord is not actually gender specific, while Lady is.
Queen Elizabeth II, has the title Lord of Mann. She is also, Duke of Normandy, and Duke of Lancaster.
As for gender specific prince/princess.
That's a royalty thing, not a navy thing. Naval rank of Prince =/= Actual Royal Prince/Princess. No player commander would ever have a royal title.
Why? Because you the player, as an individual entity within the elite universe, don't matter. That is something elite prides itself upon.
The combined efforts of all commanders within the pilot's federation however, that is shown to matter.
Within the Empire, to say your ""official"" title should be gender specific when you are issued a non specific one, would be to say that you are as important as royalty, and that, you, a mercenary under the impression that you're actually nobility (who don't get gender specific titles in the Empire anyway), deserve it.
One of the many Senators would gladly order your execution for some favor with the royalty.
Not only is your naval rank not officially recognized, it can be freely revoked at any time by a senator quite easily. Simply because you're annoying them by asking for a different title.
You're an HONORARY Lord. A RANK within the Imperial Navy. Not an officially held noble title. Were you an official citizen of the Empire however, things could be a bit different, and if you worked hard enough you could become an ACTUAL Lord, and your title would still be Lord. However were you to be an official citizen, you could try to run for a position in the Senate and go from there, trying to get yourself a gender specific title.
So in short, gender specific naval ranks is a no.
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