I made a whole app for managing sub woofer volume base on HOTAS usage. i.e press boost and the app dips the sub durring the the charge phase to counter the excessive rumbling, then turns it up for the after burn before returning it normal operation. That's just a small portion of what it does but you get the idea. The app is tied to my X-55 and any sound card compatible with the 'VA' library for AHK.
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I made a whole app for managing sub woofer volume base on HOTAS usage. i.e press boost and the app dips the sub durring the the charge phase to counter the excessive rumbling, then turns it up for the after burn before returning it normal operation. That's just a small portion of what it does but you get the idea. The app is tied to my X-55 and any sound card compatible with the 'VA' library for AHK.
Hi Cylon,
How easy would it be to adapt for a Warthog or make it configurable - it sounds like a great VR utility?
Thx B-Z
How easy would it be to adapt for a Warthog or make it configurable - it sounds like a great VR utility?
Thx B-Z
Here are my sound settings for Buttkicker with headphones, if it helps. Also I have the BK turned to only about 1/3 volume and no filters and it shakes the chair plenty without bothering my wife (chair is on a carpet).
I did have some trouble getting the BK to work. Enable bass management is the key and I think I may have needed to reboot iirc. These settings are also adjustable through the Windows control panel.
I did have some trouble getting the BK to work. Enable bass management is the key and I think I may have needed to reboot iirc. These settings are also adjustable through the Windows control panel.
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Great review, I have just received mine 3 days ago and can confirm that it is a game changer.
Glad to hear that the red clipping light is ok if it comes on occasionally as I was worried I might burn it up. It only comes on in Iracing when I have a crash or run of course which doesn't happen too often lol. Elite is amazing but really does need simvibe to drive the correct vibration. That said it will happen soon so I can cope with how it is which is just astonishing. I find the grunt of the cobra a perfect match for the buttkicker.
Going to add some arm rests to my chair so I can mount the hottas on then use my Dayton pucks for feedback when I throttle up. It's a must buy guys, don't strap something as awesome as a rift to your face and play with a mouse or use basic sound as you are just not doing this VR thing right. ������
Glad to hear that the red clipping light is ok if it comes on occasionally as I was worried I might burn it up. It only comes on in Iracing when I have a crash or run of course which doesn't happen too often lol. Elite is amazing but really does need simvibe to drive the correct vibration. That said it will happen soon so I can cope with how it is which is just astonishing. I find the grunt of the cobra a perfect match for the buttkicker.
Going to add some arm rests to my chair so I can mount the hottas on then use my Dayton pucks for feedback when I throttle up. It's a must buy guys, don't strap something as awesome as a rift to your face and play with a mouse or use basic sound as you are just not doing this VR thing right. ������
damn you people! stop this madness!!!
I just ordered my DK2, and 10 min later find myself ordering a buttkicker thanks to this forum!
This is like gaming crack! (and i still need to get that new vid card too... ugh)
oh well, at least I'm racking up the reward miles on my credit card.
don't get into sim racing then... costs ALOT more
Further reading indicates that the BKA-130-C is underpowered for the BK-G2 transducer, I'd keep an eye on the clipping and make sure it is only rare spikes. I think this may be important during extended periods of combat when you get carried way in the action and the constant explosions, and it's even harder to monitor with a DK2. Don't constantly overdrive the 130 - there is the risk of burn out if you abuse it. I have since seen lot of posts about burned out 130s - start low and set the volume for each session in increments.
If you do have problems or the effects are not what you expect, consider replacing the stock with a higher rated AMP. Because the 130 is underpowered for the BK-G2 you only feel the extremes in the soundscape (still amazing) - a better amplifier will give better fidelity to the more subtle vibrations you will feel especially at lower volumes (better) and allow the BK-G2 to be driven at it's optimum. It will also solve any other problems associated with 130, like waiting to wake from standby, not getting a signal etc. I have an iNuke 1000 DSP on order so that I can preserve the 130 should I ever want to upgrade further and sell the BK-G2 on as a complete kit. Having experienced the Low Frequency Effects there is no going back for me.
@Andovar - it really is worth it - let us know how you get on.
B-Z
Or if fromtier gets off their ass then we will have perfection when sim commander is used.
Ill echo dont try assetto corsa!
Simm commander and assetto with gamer 2 is insanely good
Sim commander can record your lap, show telemetry data (throttle, bumps, etc)
And you can customize the buttkickers response to each value range. Its unbeleviebly better than just using the buttkicker and amp from basic audio...the biggest reason your missing certain vibes is this
Ill echo dont try assetto corsa!
Simm commander and assetto with gamer 2 is insanely good
Sim commander can record your lap, show telemetry data (throttle, bumps, etc)
And you can customize the buttkickers response to each value range. Its unbeleviebly better than just using the buttkicker and amp from basic audio...the biggest reason your missing certain vibes is this
It could be done. The program uses the joysticks assigned number in Windows, not the device ID so I see no reason why it couldn't be adapted. I have only tested the app on Realtek sound cards, but the app uses AHK, VA library (Vista Audio) so it should work with anything that is compatible with that.
You would need your buttkicker connected via the sub out port - not using the splitter cables. You also need to use both Supercruise / warp buttons in game - not the combined button which does both. I also use a button to reset the sub level should anything go wrong - i.e. the app cannot detect in game actions, so if you are interdicted it wouldn't know and would still have your sub set to the supercruise value rather than standard engine operations. So the reset button puts everything back to normal.
To adapt it I would need to known your sticks assigned number in Windows - both if like, the X55, the throttle and stick are separate devices. I'd also need to know your button layout in stick number, button number and function. As I say for the Supercruise stuff to work you need to use the separate controls for each, not the combined button. I also use a button to enable / Disable hardpoints, not the deploy on primary fire option - this is also important.
I.E: 1joy2 - primary fire (Joystick 1, button 2, Primary Fire)
2joy5 - Supercruise (Joystick 2, button 5, Supercruise)
2joy6 - System Warp
2joy7 - Landing Gear
At the moment the app uses configurable profiles for each ship type, you can save each profile with the settings your prefer. Each profile needs to be loaded manually so that means 'alt - tab'n' out of elite when you change ship in order to change profile in EliteSub-FX. It would be nice to integrate the OCR stuff into the app so this happened on the fly.. if that's possible....
At some stage I'd like to make the EliteSub-FX's joystick setup configurable via a GUI.... so the source wouldn't need editing for different stick assignments or button layout.... I guess that's the difference between a personal project and something for the public domain. To be honest by this time I fully expected SimVibe to be working with Elite Dangerous and thus making my app redundant. Sadly SimVibe still doesn't work with Elite and I find the whole SimVibe teams responses to requests of this nature and overall attitude to Elite and Flight Sims in general extremely disappointing.
If you know how to use AHK I'm happy to share the source with you. Although the source may take a bit of unraveling due to the heavy use of loops and sub routines...
And yeah, I find it a great VR utility, I've just upgraded for use with GTA V. I now feel every stone on the road and engine rev while driving, without crazy loud rumbles while walking as a ped... So it certainly has it's uses.
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I just got the buttkicker the other day, and am loving it. Don't even have the DK2 yet, but it's still awesome!
But now you're worrying me a bit. As I've seen that red clipping light come on quite a bit.
I've already dumped a good sum of cash into this setup, really don't feel like spending more at the moment.
I can keep it toned down enough to where it doesn't come on a lot, but it doesn't seem like there's any way to avoid it. If you get into some extended combat, it seems it's still going to come on quite a bit, even if it's set to a lower intensity. Boosting, explosions, etc. always send it into the 'clip zone'.
Suppose i could just run with it as is, and if I burn it out, then worry about buying another amp.
grodenglaive, I notice that the subwoofer and audio-out plugs are the ones used in your pic. Does that mean you have the BK plugged into the subwoofer(orange), and headphones into the standard audio-out(green)?
I was never able to get it to work that way. Though not sure if I tried that 'enable bass management' setting. Might have to try that again.
Right now I'm just using the splitter off my headset.
Folks, its not going to be long before sim commander supports ED.
If you want to further the cause, email these and request Elite Dangerous support. They already support tons of games and some non racing games, lets get ED to the front of the priority list.
here is a screen shot of the capabilities:
main menu of games and profiles and the control panel.
here you can adjust the elements from the game and what effect is applied directly to it
(throttle, impacts, lasers, cannons, boost, etc!!!)
Control panel again
lap telemetry customization.
So you could go for a 2-3 minute ride around with your Anaconda, then go back to the simCommander. View the results of your mini venture, and apply min/max throttle accordingly and lasers/cannons, etc.
In racing games we use this to set the max rpm and min rpm ranges, etc.
Remember this is how its supposed to be, when you use buttkicker and "general game audio" its not accurate and precise, thats why people are creating all these odd macros and disable sound when scanner is pressed etc...so ridiculous.
playing assetto corsa before sim commander and after was night and day.
EMAIL and request support! they said Frontier has not expressed any interest or made any contact with SimExperience team. Lets change that.
If you want to further the cause, email these and request Elite Dangerous support. They already support tons of games and some non racing games, lets get ED to the front of the priority list.
here is a screen shot of the capabilities:
main menu of games and profiles and the control panel.
here you can adjust the elements from the game and what effect is applied directly to it
(throttle, impacts, lasers, cannons, boost, etc!!!)
Control panel again
lap telemetry customization.
So you could go for a 2-3 minute ride around with your Anaconda, then go back to the simCommander. View the results of your mini venture, and apply min/max throttle accordingly and lasers/cannons, etc.
In racing games we use this to set the max rpm and min rpm ranges, etc.
Remember this is how its supposed to be, when you use buttkicker and "general game audio" its not accurate and precise, thats why people are creating all these odd macros and disable sound when scanner is pressed etc...so ridiculous.
playing assetto corsa before sim commander and after was night and day.
EMAIL and request support! they said Frontier has not expressed any interest or made any contact with SimExperience team. Lets change that.
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I just got the buttkicker the other day, and am loving it. Don't even have the DK2 yet, but it's still awesome!
But now you're worrying me a bit. As I've seen that red clipping light come on quite a bit.
I've already dumped a good sum of cash into this setup, really don't feel like spending more at the moment.
I can keep it toned down enough to where it doesn't come on a lot, but it doesn't seem like there's any way to avoid it. If you get into some extended combat, it seems it's still going to come on quite a bit, even if it's set to a lower intensity. Boosting, explosions, etc. always send it into the 'clip zone'.
Suppose i could just run with it as is, and if I burn it out, then worry about buying another amp.
Check my last post in this thread - that's how I manage the Buttkicker currently. No red light for me and vibration in all situations and nothing too over powering.
Check out the the official forums, I asked them to contact Frontier when David asked us what we needed out of API's here on the forums..... I feel you are a little to optimistic. But yeah, if you don't own the product email them, just maybe they will realize the £££'s they're missing out on in sales, if you do own SimVibe / commander please reply to my post on their forum showing your support, its hard to miss.
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I emailed Bernie and he said Frontier has never made contact with them.
its in both of their interests to get on this.
optimistic maybe, but we can help push the cause along.
I know exactly what is needed from frontier and its childsplay to get the ball rolling.
I have been trying to get the data myself like x-sim, but without a dev version of sim commander its near impossible to implement.
its in both of their interests to get on this.
optimistic maybe, but we can help push the cause along.
I know exactly what is needed from frontier and its childsplay to get the ball rolling.
I have been trying to get the data myself like x-sim, but without a dev version of sim commander its near impossible to implement.
I agree it is down to both but at the end of the day the SimVibe team has most to gain in terms of sales from their product supporting more games. Waiting for developers to contact them when they will make the profit is a little foolish.... in this situation Frontier requested people contact them with API requests, I made the Simvibe guys well aware of this and they chose not to act....when it was in their and their customers intrrests.
I love Simvibe. The difference between a standalone buttkicker and one used with that software is night and day.
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Lets hope so man! The more requests the better!!