Horizons Geysers and the lack of.

Apache45

Apache45
I have been out recently and touched down on several planets that said they had geysers. Major and minor. Well.......if you don't have them in the game why say that you do?

I see it this way.
If you can scan the planet for materials that it contains then geysers would be REALLY easy to see. I mean they shoot material OFF of the planet. OUT of the planet. Wouldn't that be easy to see?
Why would it take you 3 REAL TIME days to find a geyser on one potato????

I have YET to see one in the game, AND I spend ALOT of time on planets.

Are they really in the game?
 

Apache45

Apache45
That's just it.
"not have found one myself - yet."
This is probably the best game I've ever played...well top 3. So I'm not just complaining, I want to make it better.
If the planet description said Major magma then does every planet with that description have geysers?
 

varonica

varonica
Apache45 said:
That's just it.
"not have found one myself - yet."
This is probably the best game I've ever played...well top 3. So I'm not just complaining, I want to make it better.
If the planet description said Major magma then does every planet with that description have geysers?
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Yes, but if you land on a planet 20,000klm in radius you have possibly three maybe 100 square meter targets in a 5billion square kilometer area to search.

Keep to targets 500klm radius or smaller, fly along between 2 and 4klms above the surface checking canyons and depressions, also set radar on max and watch out for small POI's. Rinse and repeat until you find some.

Read the geysers and fumarole thread in the exploration sub-forum.
 
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shadowwar

shadowwar
I went looking for geysers too and while hovering at 3 km over the surface found a very small blue POI that usually signifies a geyser so keeping this small blue dot in front of me I landed and took my SRV for a ride to find it. Found nothing and took off again. My wing mate also saw the same little blue dot but he could not find it too. What gives with these things?
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
When they were announced, I imagined these being fairly easy to spot because they would be projecting stuff a long way above the horizon, being airless planets, but the stellar forge (or whatever) appears to have made them very small at present. (I've not found any, either.) Maybe a fix for this will arrive in some future update - hope so, anyway.
 

Macros Black

Macros Black
Haven't located either geysers or magma. It is baffling that when adding new content, very few are able to find it. Scanners need a significant boost to help find the POI's. In sci-fi movies ships can locate a mouse fart 10Ly away; in ED you see a blue circle above 2km, and when you land there's nothing there.

We really need better scanners.
 

vermu

vermu
My advice is that if you are frustrated cause you won't find any geysers, go to places where other people have been. I have done that and I have found many breath taking places. Until the scanner arrives the community is your best friend.

Happy hunting.

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GG7

G
Apache45 said:
I have been out recently and touched down on several planets that said they had geysers. Major and minor. Well.......if you don't have them in the game why say that you do?

I see it this way.
If you can scan the planet for materials that it contains then geysers would be REALLY easy to see. I mean they shoot material OFF of the planet. OUT of the planet. Wouldn't that be easy to see?
Why would it take you 3 REAL TIME days to find a geyser on one potato????

I have YET to see one in the game, AND I spend ALOT of time on planets.

Are they really in the game?
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Why must Frontier turn EVERYTHING into some sort of convoluted Easter Egg Hunt? [rolleyes] [wacky] [wacko]

You are totally correct in assuming that a CRYOVOLCANO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryovolcano) on an "Airless / Low Gravity" planetary body would generate plumes visible from orbit! These would not be this hard to find in real life, yet Frontier seems to delight in going out of it's collective way to make points of interest like this as easy to find as the proverbial Unicorn!

STOP IT FRONTIER! [sulk]

The only times I have ever seen these new additions to the game was during the Beta test cycle when we were all out there trying to hunt these down. Those who managed to stumble on them would post the coordinates so that the rest of us could go there and see them for ourselves. At the time, we all fully expected that when the game actually released, these cool geological features would be visible from space or at the very least a LOW ORBIT altitude. We assumed that all we would need to do was to determine via the System Map/Planetary Body Details that a particular body had Volcanism listed, and it would be all downhill from there.

Its all downhill from there, but not in the good way! In my personal experience, just because a planet is listed as having Volcanism in no way equates to you ever seeing a single instance of such features even if you spent an entire session flying around at low altitude, landing at POIs and actually driving the SRV here and there as you used the Thrusters to get a better vantage point for your ultimately fruitless search!

I think you guys can tell from my comments and my attitude regarding this feature that I have never actually found a field of active Geysers on my own. It wasn't due to a lack of trying I assure you! I am almost embarrassed to say exactly how much real time I have actually wasted since the release of 2.2 trying to find these things!

I have since given up and because of all the tedium I now associate with these things, I am no longer interested in any of this.

Just like so many other new features I was really looking forward to interacting with, active Volcanism as presented in Elite Dangerous is an EPIC FAIL! Because it doesn't matter how cool you make these look and behave (they do look cool and add much to surface exploration) if you can't bloody find them in a reasonable period of time using only "IN-GAME" resources, then what the heck is the point?

EPIC FAIL!
 
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goemon

goemon
vermu said:
My advice is that if you are frustrated cause you won't find any geysers, go to places where other people have been. I have done that and I have found many breath taking places. Until the scanner arrives the community is your best friend.

Happy hunting.

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where is that? amazing.

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same advice from me --- it is a bit as with rare goods, or pristine metallic rings, or barnacles, or alien ships. there are people who enjoy hunting those, and people who enjoy going there ;-)
 

Marc_Hicks

Marc_Hicks
I have found about 3 fields myself, & they are quite visible even from 10km up. That said, it would be nice if Detailed Surface Scanners were able to narrow the search area for these & other persistent PoI's.
 

varonica

varonica
shadowwar said:
I went looking for geysers too and while hovering at 3 km over the surface found a very small blue POI that usually signifies a geyser so keeping this small blue dot in front of me I landed and took my SRV for a ride to find it. Found nothing and took off again. My wing mate also saw the same little blue dot but he could not find it too. What gives with these things?
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As I said earlier, read the fumarole and geyser thread in the exploration subsection if you want to go exploring for them. The blue POI's do NOT indicate geysers, they never have, they indicate the minerals associated with geysers, but they can also indicate minerals NOT associated with geysers. Outcrops, mesidorite etc, so if you see a blue POI and no geysers look around for minable outcrops in the immediate area, there may only be one or two.

MacrosTheBlack said:
Haven't located either geysers or magma. It is baffling that when adding new content, very few are able to find it. Scanners need a significant boost to help find the POI's. In sci-fi movies ships can locate a mouse fart 10Ly away; in ED you see a blue circle above 2km, and when you land there's nothing there.

We really need better scanners.
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I have found five in the last six or so hours of play, and most of that was spent jumping between system looking for suitable target worlds. Again the blue POI may be something as small as a largish rock, not geysers, but they often do appear with geysers. I am not saying the exploration system doesn't need vast improvement, it certainly does, I would like to get away from the POI system altogether and replace it with a decent ground scanning system, but following the recommended guidelines for picking good targets it's possible to find them in a few hours of play at the most.
 

Apache45

Apache45
As for going to a planet someone else points me to..no thanks. The point behind a GALAXY is finding things on your own not led by your nose ring to a tourist site. moooooooo.

So...do the blue POI indicate geysers or not?

I will check out the cow forum post that leads by hand on how to locate geysers but my point was to find out if every planet that shows minor or major geysers actually have geysers?

Does every planet that shows geysers have geysers?
 

varonica

varonica
Apache45 said:
As for going to a planet someone else points me to..no thanks. The point behind a GALAXY is finding things on your own not led by your nose ring to a tourist site. moooooooo.

So...do the blue POI indicate geysers or not?

I will check out the cow forum post that leads by hand on how to locate geysers but my point was to find out if every planet that shows minor or major geysers actually have geysers?

Does every planet that shows geysers have geysers?
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Look, not wishing wishing to be rude here but, do I really need to link back to my previous reply to your first post where I distinctly said YES!

If you are going to ignore other peoples posts why bother coming here asking for advice, I gave good advice and a clear answer, you just come back and ask the same question?
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Found my first geyser field at the weekend thanks to passenger missions. Took screenshots but not on home comp at the moment to upload.

Truly awesome view though.
 

vermu

vermu
Agony_Aunt said:
Found my first geyser field at the weekend thanks to passenger missions. Took screenshots but not on home comp at the moment to upload.

Truly awesome view though.
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Was it a sightseeing mission? Was the geysers mentioned in the mission description or was it coinsidence that you found geysers when doing passenger mission?
 

Marcus Tullius

Marcus Tullius
I found two of them on my first attempt when 2.2 were launched. My first two planets with volcanic activity showed after scan, first drop from orbital cruise and there were geysers. I did it twice, on two randomly chosen planets. After that, 32452345234 planets with volcanic activity, multiple drops from orbital cruise over suspicious locations and nothing.
 

Apache45

Apache45
Marcus Tullius said:
I found two of them on my first attempt when 2.2 were launched. My first two planets with volcanic activity showed after scan, first drop from orbital cruise and there were geysers. I did it twice, on two randomly chosen planets. After that, 32452345234 planets with volcanic activity, multiple drops from orbital cruise over suspicious locations and nothing.
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This is why I posted originally. This needs to be mentioned more often. Having the planet description say it has geysers and there are not any is a BIG problem to me.

How much time has been waisted on looking for geysers???? Hundreds of hours ,Thousands of hours???? If they are not on every planet then do not put it in the description.

I was not asking one fanboy if he has seen geysers before. I wasnt checking to see if there were any guides to the nearest tourist site. I want to know why hundreds of people are wasting hours of valuable game time?

My opinion.
Geysers are not proceduraly generated. They are putting them in by hand or individually and they started at the bubble first.

Whats the farthermost system out that anyone has found geysers?
 
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