Give the Imperial Cutter Luxury Cabins for VIP passengers

The Cutter is the pride of the Imperial Fleet. If any wealthy and loyal Imperials wish to travel in safety and luxury, without the use of a Majestic Interdictor, then the Imperial Cutter is an Excellent Choice. In fact with its powerful shields and great mass, it simply laughs at the peasants that try to slow down its journeys among the stars.

In fact I would also suggest that VIP transport missions would make sense for a Cutter given its speed, shields, mass, and power distributor.

Thefore, I ask that the Imperial Cutter be given the ability to transport VIP passengers. It makes perfect sense for Imperials to prefer the Cutter over the Beluga. I hate to use on a car analogy, but it is similar how businessmen in Europe would prefer BMW and Mercedes-Benz over Cadillac and Lexus in the U.S.

I hope that the Empire supporters agree with me and the Federation CMDRs at least acknowledge that the Cutter is one SHINY ship.
 
...wut?

By your logic, the Federal Corvette should have the capacity to fit VIP modules for the same reason.
Look at it this way. The luxury that Saud Kruger's ships offer beats out the luxury that Gutamaya's ships can offer, so Gutamaya doesn't even bother making a comparable set of luxury suites. That's the in-universe explanation.
 
...wut?

By your logic, the Federal Corvette should have the capacity to fit VIP modules for the same reason.
Look at it this way. The luxury that Saud Kruger's ships offer beats out the luxury that Gutamaya's ships can offer, so Gutamaya doesn't even bother making a comparable set of luxury suites. That's the in-universe explanation.

The in-game description for the Cutter says it is used for Diplomatic missions. Last time I checked high ranking government diplomats and officials were considered VIPs.

And you are wrong about the Corvette. It is does not project luxury at all. Nor is it hinted at anywhere in the game. Logically, since the Corvette is a warship then it should be able to be used as a Troop Transport - a role I am hoping the FDS will one day excel at.
 
Approved. This does make total sense.

The corvette, on the other hand, is a strictly military ship that dosen't give a hoot about confort, but a cutter is, wether we like it or not, the mark of an imperial regime, and its ever-so-slightly decadent upper class will indeed demand this type of accomodation.

It would, I think, allow the Cutter to compensate for its lower combat ability, making it a definitely better ship at all "peaceful" endeavors, from trading to ferrying, thus indeed projecting the "soft power" it represents.

Go for it!
 
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Yes, I want to load VIPs into the biowaste-smelling hold of my Cutter! That should bring in the tips, eh?! :p

As the proud owner of a new Cutter I have to say that it has never been used to carry biowaste. That is a job for peasants.... not regular peasants either, the smelly kind of peasants.
Besides your passengers will go into Luxury Cabins, not your cargo hold. They are not slaves.
 
I was about to make a thread about this also, then googled it and found this, so I may be a couple of months late but better than starting a new thread I think. I believe the Cutter should definitely have Luxury Class cabins. The Clipper can live without it.
 
I was about to make a thread about this also, then googled it and found this, so I may be a couple of months late but better than starting a new thread I think. I believe the Cutter should definitely have Luxury Class cabins. The Clipper can live without it.

A little bit necro'd
But i agree. The Cutter doesn't shine in combat like the Corvette. The only role it has is as a freighter now. C'mon Frontier, is this shiny bride really not more worth than hauling goods? [wink]
The Clipper and Cutter are really great luminous luxury ships, so please give them the ability to fit in luxury Cabins. We like the Gutamaya style and i would be glad about having at least a reason to fly them :)

"The Beluga Class Liner is one of the most prestigious vessels to travel the space lanes. Only the Imperial Gutamaya liners rival these glorious vessels. If you want to travel in style, this is the vessel to do it in. A fighter hangar can be equipped to these ships."
 
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The Cutter is the pride of the Imperial Fleet. If any wealthy and loyal Imperials wish to travel in safety and luxury, without the use of a Majestic Interdictor, then the Imperial Cutter is an Excellent Choice. In fact with its powerful shields and great mass, it simply laughs at the peasants that try to slow down its journeys among the stars.

In fact I would also suggest that VIP transport missions would make sense for a Cutter given its speed, shields, mass, and power distributor.

Thefore, I ask that the Imperial Cutter be given the ability to transport VIP passengers. It makes perfect sense for Imperials to prefer the Cutter over the Beluga. I hate to use on a car analogy, but it is similar how businessmen in Europe would prefer BMW and Mercedes-Benz over Cadillac and Lexus in the U.S.

I hope that the Empire supporters agree with me and the Federation CMDRs at least acknowledge that the Cutter is one SHINY ship.

No, no, and... no.
 
No, no, and... no.

Yes, yes and... yes.

No matter how monosyllabic we get, it changes nothing to the fact that it would make absolute sense in-fiction, and that it wouldn't change much to the balance of the ships anyway. The Cutter's already the best trader in the game, and passenger missions aren't different from trading missions.

It really boggles the mind that the ferrying progression curve should be given a hard stop with the beluga... and for the beluga to be such a riddiculously under-powered and badly balanced ship...

Supposedly the most luxurious ship out there, but same price as a type-9 (What the?)... Biggest mass and FSD of all ships, but its mass lock factor (18) means it can still get mass locked by the "Big three" (seriously?)... Meant for nothing but cruising from system to system but its jump range is mediocre (Oh come on now!)... Also it's the only ship that will litterally overheat if it jumps while sporting a G5 OC PP (unfair... I've tried nearly all other ships, none have this issue)... Also some of its too-few internal slots are inaccessible for most modules, making it tedious to outfit (this better be related to there being a dance floor or something)... Also it has such small internals that its shields have to be made of paper, but you can't really engineer them correctly, because it's so power-starved that engineering it is a complete nightmare (see the effects of a G5 OC PP)...


If passenger missions are really going to be a serious career in Elite, players are going to need a top-tier passenger ship, like all other trades get. And by top-tier, I mean one that isin't... ^ THAT.

And even if you made the Cutter the best passenger ship... it'd still be less versatile than the Conda! So I don't really know what all that refusal comes from...

Moreover, I think it's just silly that Frontier pretty much "forced" luxury cabins into the only 2 pasenger ships. It's a very, very artificial way of making them relevant, that exists primarily to offset the fact that those ships would just not be used otherwise, because they are useless compared to other vessels.

Instead, how about we liberalize the use of luxury cabins, but actually make the orca and beluga interesting options? Missions that require luxury cabins aren't SO magnificient and well-paying that we'd like to buy a new ship just for them. I bought mine because it's shiny, not for luxury missions alone.


Disclaimer : I am the owner of both a cutter and a corvette (and also a mothballed beluga) so I may have a vested interest into this. However, I am vehemently in favor of a massive nerf to the difficulty of obtaining the cutter and vette, because they aren't worth THAT much of a grind as it is.


You know, all in all, what bothers me most with ship balancing right now, having acquired nearly every ship and played with them extensively, is that if anyone looking for engame progression asked me what ship to strive for, I'd systematically direct them towards an Anaconda and tell them not to bother with the rest. The Corvette and Cutter's slight advantages aren't worth the grindwall (and their combat abilities are necessarily neutered by PVP balancing, so they aren't that much of an improvement), while the 'Conda's jump range, armament, hardiness, cargo capacity, acquisition difficulty etc. makes it just so massively superior to all ships that you really need to be stupidly rich (or rather, stupid and rich, just like me) to go for anything else, althought lighter vessels are now clearly better for RES hunting, I'll give them that. I'm pretty certain that someone with a Conda will end up making more cash than someone with a beluga just doing passenger missions, even with luxury missions out of the picture.
 
To add to this, I'd also like to point out that the way Cabin Classes are locked to internal slot sizes is backwards at best, altogether daft at worst. Look at any standard transport vessel - the luxury/first class/business class capacity is almost always much less than half that of economy.
 
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How about this: Include Luxury cabins for imperial ships.

BUT

Make it a condicion that some travelers outside the Empire refuse to travel in imperial ships for political disagreements.
 
I would gladly sell my Beluga if the Cutter had access to luxury cabins. It would also give it a new role in my fleet after the release of the Panther, when it's no longer the kingpin freighter.
 
While we're resurrecting this old thread, might as well take advantage of 2.2.03:

Give the cutter one single additional size 5 "Trading internal" like the ones the transport ships have (only passenger, cargo, and hull reinforcement) so that it can accomodate one luxury cabin.

At the same time, give the Corvette an additional size 5 military slot.


But, since having 3 military slots was an option the devs tested and removed:

Instead of "adding", we could replace one of the two class 5 military slots on the cutter by a "trading" slot. That would, in either case, allow the cutter to sport either luxury cabins, cargo or Hull reinforcements (which makes it both viable for trading and combat) without upsetting combat balance much.


Also, if I may work my will, I'd outright remove the 'Conda's military slot. Period. After that, the two military ships would have an edge somewhat worthwhile compared to the anaconda. Giving it another military slot just upsetted the balance in its favor again, despite how it's pretty much better at everything than everyone...

Once again, all this from the perspective of womeone who owns all 3 bigs + the beluga (plus others too).
 
I would only agree to this, if the federal Corvette had the same treatment, I also have to say that it has to be a Poor luxury cabin, we don't want it to out class true passenger ships in luxury...
 
If by in-game description the ship fits with diplomatic-use flavor text, it's not just logical, but necessary to offer aspects that would make that make sense in the game. That includes VIP suites.

If you have complaints about that, take it up with FDev for making that the stated main purpose of a ship that is supposed to be in-game comparable to the Federal Corvette. That's the main issue here.
 
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Just because a ship is a VIP transport, doesn't mean it needs Luxury Cabins
First Class is sufficient to fulfill the in game description, and still leaves the Saud Kruger ships their Luxury cabins
After all the really important Imperials travel in a Majestic Class anyway , so why would they worry about if the Cutter can only have first class cabins
 
The Cutter is the pride of the Imperial Fleet. If any wealthy and loyal Imperials wish to travel in safety and luxury, without the use of a Majestic Interdictor, then the Imperial Cutter is an Excellent Choice. In fact with its powerful shields and great mass, it simply laughs at the peasants that try to slow down its journeys among the stars.

In fact I would also suggest that VIP transport missions would make sense for a Cutter given its speed, shields, mass, and power distributor.

Thefore, I ask that the Imperial Cutter be given the ability to transport VIP passengers. It makes perfect sense for Imperials to prefer the Cutter over the Beluga. I hate to use on a car analogy, but it is similar how businessmen in Europe would prefer BMW and Mercedes-Benz over Cadillac and Lexus in the U.S.

I hope that the Empire supporters agree with me and the Federation CMDRs at least acknowledge that the Cutter is one SHINY ship.

I don't even own one (Imperial *scum* :p ), but I still agree with you ;).
 
I'm for luxury cabins for the Cutter. Given the nerfs in bulk trading and cargo missions it would make sense. But if one has the credits then it would defeat the purpose of ever owning a Beluga from a Devs point of view. We'll have to work on that balance.
 
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