Good way to make a lot of explorer cash in the bubble

drkaii

drkaii
There are a lot of white dwarves in local space, I'd reckon 50 - 100. Most are "unexplored" so you can go scan them. Doing them all shouldn't take more than 3 hours and that should be enough data for a permit or two without ever having to leave the bubble. So if you get bored you can switch to bounty hunting or whatever and finish later.

If there are 50 let's say and you average 40k per scan, that's 2m right there. Add another 2m for the scans you get between jumps and you've got yourself a permit (not sure how much you need for allied but I've seen numbers from 2.2m to 5.5m).

Also, go to "unexplored" named systems. They are pretty likely to have terraformed ELWs for you to scan to add to your credits.

I've found a lot of ammonia worlds in local space, as well as water worlds, water giants, metals and more. Even found some "helium giants", which I've never seen or even heard of before. Always weird finding an ammonia world in local space...
 

CMDR DoubleSkulls

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I think for rookies and very new explorers you are right. There are quite a lot of discoverable systems with valuable stars and planets. However its not very efficient as

1) everything has been discovered, so you only get 2/3 the amount for a first discovered
2) there are a few discovered systems in there, so you don't have that continuous stream of valuable systems to look at.

The most CR rewarding activity is to go the ~12kly to the neutron fields and grind there. You can make over 2m per hour.
 

ThoroughlyLostExplorer

ThoroughlyLostExplorer
drkaii said:
that should be enough data for a permit or two without ever having to leave the bubble.

Add another 2m for the scans you get between jumps and you've got yourself a permit (not sure how much you need for allied but I've seen numbers from 2.2m to 5.5m).
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Speaking of "rookie", I could use a bit of info here.

Which permits are there that I need to buy with money? I only know the military rank progression type. Plus Alioth, which suddenly appeared after I killed some pirates for a CG probably from a sytem faction mood thing.

Btw. someone mentioned grinding rank with the Sirius / Li Yong Rui power for the 200% bonus before data UC sale. Do you happen to know how long this kind of thing takes / what activities are involved? I'd hate to lose my data, so I have been very reluctant to consider this as an option. Besides, without the 200% bonus I have an incentive to explore 3x as many systems ;)
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
Sold data translates into rep. Do that at a station that can give a permit and sell enough to make them friendly enough to give the permit.
 
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Zenith

Zenith
Selling data increases rep with the controlling faction of the station. Sell ~5MCr of exploration data to get to Allied status with the faction. If the faction is a controlling faction in a permit system, then you should find a mission on the bulletin board that gives you a permit for that system.

Eg. 78 Ursae Majoris has a station owned by Alioth Independents. Get Allied with them and you get a mission to Alioth.
The only real benefits in that particular case are increasing Alliance affiliation and 20% discount on Asp Explorer ships.
 

GrillMonkey

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Cool, thanks for the info.

I'll have a look around at the permit systems I'm interested in and see if I can find the faction in a near by system. I am on my way back from Sag A* so I guess I'll have enough data to get a few permits :D

CMDR DoubleSkulls said:
Check out the permit thread. There are a couple of permit only systems that sell rares. Otherwise it doesn't seem to have a big impact.
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There's the nostalgia of going back to Ross 128, I used to do loads of missions to that system in Frontier :D
 
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Zenith

Zenith
GrillMonkey said:
I'll have a look around at the permit systems I'm interested in and see if I can find the faction in a near by system. I am on my way back from Sag A* so I guess I'll have enough data to get a few permits :D
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I found it took around 12-14 pages of "ordinary" data to get to Allied with most factions. 7-8 of "good" data (inc. Black holes and neutron stars).
YMMV.
 

drkaii

drkaii
ThoroughlyLostExplorer said:
Speaking of "rookie", I could use a bit of info here.

Which permits are there that I need to buy with money? I only know the military rank progression type. Plus Alioth, which suddenly appeared after I killed some pirates for a CG probably from a sytem faction mood thing.

Btw. someone mentioned grinding rank with the Sirius / Li Yong Rui power for the 200% bonus before data UC sale. Do you happen to know how long this kind of thing takes / what activities are involved? I'd hate to lose my data, so I have been very reluctant to consider this as an option. Besides, without the 200% bonus I have an incentive to explore 3x as many systems ;)
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Well, it costs 50m cr to get that +200% (i.e. 300%), so you have to be making at LEAST that much profit. It can be done in about 10 hours with a good Anaconda, but maybe 200+ hours with a small ship so weigh all that in.

Zenith said:
Selling data increases rep with the controlling faction of the station. Sell ~5MCr of exploration data to get to Allied status with the faction. If the faction is a controlling faction in a permit system, then you should find a mission on the bulletin board that gives you a permit for that system.

Eg. 78 Ursae Majoris has a station owned by Alioth Independents. Get Allied with them and you get a mission to Alioth.
The only real benefits in that particular case are increasing Alliance affiliation and 20% discount on Asp Explorer ships.
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I disagree! There are other benefits too! I mean, Phekda has a bloody ELW moon orbiting a gas giant. Yes Alioth has that too but far far away, in Phekda it's right next door. I want that permit just to see that. Plus it's one of the big dipper stars like Alioth itself, it's a good collectible for a sky fan :)
 

drkaii

drkaii
drkaii said:
Well, it costs 50m cr to get that +200% (i.e. 300%), so you have to be making at LEAST that much profit. It can be done in about 10 hours with a good Anaconda, but maybe 200+ hours with a small ship so weigh all that in.



I disagree! There are other benefits too! I mean, Phekda has a bloody ELW moon orbiting a gas giant. Yes Alioth has that too but far far away, in Phekda it's right next door. I want that permit just to see that. Plus it's one of the big dipper stars like Alioth itself, it's a good collectible for a sky fan :)
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Well I just finished and only made just under 2m. This is because firstly I was wrong about the credits per white dwarf - it's more like 22k each and secondly I had already scanned a few of them in the past.

Still, was worth it. Won't be long till I get my permit :)
 
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