Gradual performance degradation over time?

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Just wanted to gauge if others experienced this issue before raising a support/bug ticket.

I'm playing ED on PC (i7 6700HQ, 960m 4GB, 8GB RAM, install on SSD). Drivers are the latest (419.17), which I updated yesterday and which apparently sorted some FPS drops I've been having over the past weeks (well, I presume they did as the game ran a LOT smoother where only a day before it wasn't).

But twice now this week (once pre driver update on Monday, once afterwards, last night) I experienced severe drops in FPS towards the end of my session; on Monday when entering Shinrarta Dhezra in Open, the game became unplayable - down to 4-5fps, controls unresponsive. I have a feeling this may have been related to my Xbox One controller's batteries being empty, although this never caused performance issues in the past. Maybe just a coincident.

Then last night I played in a NHSS for a few minutes. Rock solid 60fps in pretty much any scenario before that, in the NHSS it dropped to about 40-50, I then had to leg it to the station for repairs, where it gradually dropped to below 20fps, and stayed there. I logged from Open to Solo, but performance remained poor. Same result with changing some GFX settings.

I thought maybe it's a heat issue, but laptop itself and the power brick both running normal temperatures i.e. same as when I got smooth performance. Fan activity seems normal, too.

I had Windows performance monitor open, and nothing really jumped out - CPU utilisation around 30-50%, GPU around 40-50%, nothing unusual with RAM and VRAM either. Disk activity also minimal and no other processes appear to interfere either (such as Antivirus).

Anyone had this before? Been playing on this hardware for a couple of years now and never came across these severe (and permanent) performance drops until now.
 
I'd be inclined to try the same areas in Solo (just for comparison) and see if the issues persist. Might be network-y stuff.
 

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That's what I did. Same station, docked, no other players in the instance, poor FPS - back to menu (FPS jump back up to 60), switch to solo, FPS drop again.

Unless networking can have that severe a graphics impact on the game? I wasn't moving anywhere though, but could a poor wifi connection cause this I wonder (the router is quite far away so it's not the best at times).

Edit - and just to re-iterate - I managed to play for several hours prior in all sorts of different scenarios (super cruise, asteroid belts, landing at planetary stations in different lighting conditions) and it was almost always hitting 60fps - only missing a couple here and there, such as when assets are loaded. Even the usual stutter when entering a station generally wasn't an issue last night.
 
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I had Windows performance monitor open, and nothing really jumped out - CPU utilisation around 30-50%, GPU around 40-50%

Unless you have a CPU limitation (check per-core utilization to see if any cores are being maxed out), or you are capping frame rates, GPU utilization should be pegged near 100%.

I'd be inclined to try the same areas in Solo (just for comparison) and see if the issues persist. Might be network-y stuff.

Also worth looking at.
 

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Unless you have a CPU limitation (check per-core utilization to see if any cores are being maxed out), or you are capping frame rates, GPU utilization should be pegged near 100%.

I've got fps capped at 60. But thanks for the per-core tip, will check that out.

What the behaviour of the game reminded me of is that of a memory leak. But there's nothing leaking judging from perfmon.

Also not having this issue in any other game I'm playing (not that I play that many other ones these days, lol).

Edit:

The key event so to speak last night was the Thargoid USS. Even though I played those with no (or very little) performance issues in the past. I also just want to mention that I played last night with the controller plugged in via USB (after that 4-5fps issue the other night, I lost all my key bindings which has been a very rare occurence for me at least, no idea what the heck happened there).

Edit 2 (sorry for all these):

Just another point on the GPU utilisation numbers - I imagine those to go right up when playing under more punishing circumstances (planetside, CZ's), but those numbers are from sitting inside the dock at a station.
 
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Ive been seeing the main chat window fill with this :-

System:

System:

System:

System:

System:

System:

It fills the whole chat box and flickers, when this happens my fps drops from 140 to 25ish.
I type /clear in chat and it instantly goes back up to 140fps. or whatever the good fps is that I am getting at that moment.

Have had this happen in both PG and Open haven't checked solo sorry.
 
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Ive been seeing the main chat window fill with this :-

System:

System:

System:

System:

System:

System:

It fills the whole chat box and flickers, when this happens my fps drops from 140 to 25ish.
I type /clear in chat and it instantly goes back up to 140fps. or whatever the good fps I am getting at that moment.

Have had this happen in both PG and Open haven't checked solo sorry.

You know, I tried this in the past (with very little success though), but not last night. Duh.
 

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Might not be related to your issue but thought i would pass it on anyway.

Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for it next time, although tbh I don't think it would've addressed the issue as I didn't notice any flickering, and haven't jumped between a lot of systems (maybe 6 or so?), and the System name was populated (I presume your example was the system was left blank?).
 
Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for it next time, although tbh I don't think it would've addressed the issue as I didn't notice any flickering, and haven't jumped between a lot of systems (maybe 6 or so?), and the System name was populated (I presume your example was the system was left blank?).

Ah no see thats part of it.
It just all of a sudden spams hundreds of empty system: messages into the chat for no reason.
I once had not even changed systems since logging in :)

Anyway as I said maybe not related.
 

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Ah no see thats part of it.
It just all of a sudden spams hundreds of empty system: messages into the chat for no reason.
I once had not even changed systems since logging in :)

Anyway as I said maybe not related.

Ah ok that's good to know. Haven't had that happen to me (yet) but at least that explains why my FPS doesn't improve when I clear the chat:)
 
I know nufink, but I did wonder if your gpu or something was getting hotter & hotter as you played?
Just an idea.
 
Does the problem persist after restarting Elite. If so does the problem persist after a system reboot. I had a similar issue a few years ago after a windows update. I eventually just reinstalled windows and the problem never occurred again. This may sound drastic but It was just a computer fully devoted to playing games. I really never figured it what the problem was. Good luck.
 
Ah no see thats part of it.
It just all of a sudden spams hundreds of empty system: messages into the chat for no reason.
I once had not even changed systems since logging in :)

Anyway as I said maybe not related.

Has this been reported? Sounds like a serious issue.
 
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I've installed GPU-Z (why don't Nvidia drivers provide temp details...) to see if it's indeed a heat issue. My non-scientific test of touching the laptop last night didn't raise any alarms i.e. it felt as warm as it normally does under load, but nothing extreme.

Unfortunately these issues correlated with me finishing up my gaming session regardless so didn't try to do a full restart or reboot Windows. Will give it a go next time... have a feeling it'll probably fix the issue (until it happens again).

As for re-installing Windows... I don't think I'll go nukular anytime soon because of one game not running perfectly... the laptop used for all sorts of other stuff as well and reinstalling everything would take days.
 
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Has this been reported? Sounds like a serious issue.
It's been mentioned on the forums a lot and was prevalent during the 3.3 beta, so I expect so...

The only other performance degradation I see is when I've been SRV'ing for long periods - I start to see floating rocks and the SRV sinks below the surface (& no I'm pretty sure I'm not hallucinating!), but again this has been around for a while...
 
why don't Nvidia drivers provide temp details...

They do but it's very well hidden in the GeForce Experience.

At least it's in GeForce Experience V2.11.4.0, it might be in V3 but I don't use that.

Your graphics card also has to be LED effects compatible.
There is a GPU Properties drop down that shows Temperature, Fan Speed and % Utilization.

The LED Visualizer is usually here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\LED Visualizer\NvLedVisualizer.exe
 
OP: Just use MSI Afterburner to log, temps, clock speeds and utilization of various components during your play session. Check if anything relates to the performance slow down.
Regarding memory leaks: Task manager and performance monitor might not indicate that Windows memory management actually began swapping to the page file. This means even though memory utilization is way under 100%, like 80%, Windows might already have started to swap data to the page file, which obviously results in bad frame times. But I doubt this is the case, since you have continuously bad frame times.
 

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They do but it's very well hidden in the GeForce Experience.

At least it's in GeForce Experience V2.11.4.0, it might be in V3 but I don't use that.

Your graphics card also has to be LED effects compatible.
There is a GPU Properties drop down that shows Temperature, Fan Speed and % Utilization.

The LED Visualizer is usually here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\LED Visualizer\NvLedVisualizer.exe

Ah right, I'm not using GeForce Experience. But GPU-Z seems to do the trick, and is quite lightweight.

Curious to see results later when back in the game (and really hope my issue isn't heat related to be honest).
 
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