Great Canonn UA Smuggling Experiment

This experiment is now over - thanks to all who took part :)

TL;DR: Find UAs, sell them at any station listed in the 'Approved Target Stations' list by 5pm server time, 7th January 3302

For more background, or if your player group wants to 'donate' a station to the experiment see below:

Palin, UAs and Science
Professor Palin announcing a CG to get a base established on Maia B1BA (think 'Bieber') is great news and many CMDRs, including a large number of Canonn Members, have already delivered hundreds of thousands of tonnes of Evacuation Shelters to Nelson Works, Dahan.

We will continue to support this CG until it finishes just before the new year, but we think we (i.e. you!) can do some serious science as well.

Back on the 4th December 3301, Dr Arcanonn called for all CMDRs to cease the distribution of Unknown Artefacts via the illegal black markets - to try to prevent the spread of station malfunctions and shutdowns.

Unfortunately, and partly thanks to their high value, it would seem the doctor’s advice has directly led to an increase in the smuggling of UAs – indeed, some CMDRs appear to be using them to target rival powers’ stations, or those of player groups, in order to bring them down! We don’t support this action, but of course it was inevitable.

Meanwhile, Prof Palin is looking to carry on his experiments 'away from the bubble' for safety - but the net effect is, at the same time, to hold the rest of us back.

Let's Sell UAs Safely!

We now think we need to try to get more malfunctioning stations. But we're not reckless, we want to do it in a controlled manner. So, the Canonn is today volunteering its own station – Bond Hub, in Varati – as a target for all your UA smuggling activity, and inviting all other player groups to volunteer at least one of their stations with a black market too.

If Bond Hub gets shut down, that’s fine – the Canonn is happy for this to happen in the name of science - we're sure a solution will eventually be found that will see it fixed again.

Player Groups - volunteer your station!

If you're a group leader or a member who wants your group to get involved please do the following:

  • Get a reply added to this thread I’ve created in the Group Leaders’ forum. The reply should say what station you are volunteering and the system (obviously).
    • Only stations submitted via the group leaders’ forum will be entertained
  • The station must have a black market
  • Your group must unanimously agree to this – players delivering UAs en masse must be guaranteed safety from your faction’s CMDRs
  • The station and the system will be added to the list at the bottom of this post, along with the forum name of the CMDR who volunteered it – so that everyone can see.
  • The station does not need to be under your faction’s control, but it must not ‘belong’ to another player faction, and must be in your system.
  • If it belongs to a power, then you must be aligned with that power. However, we accept no responsibility for any reprisals you suffer at the hands of other CMDRs backing the same power.

Thank you in advance to those CMDRs who volunteer their systems :D

Smuggling advice

  • UAs can be found in SSS in almost any system 135-150LY from Merope
  • Carrying UAs degrades your ship – you will need at least one AFMU and will need to keep checking your Cargo Hatch for damage. You might also want to check your canopy for damage too. Remember, modules set to auto-repair will go off auto-repair when they reach 100%.
  • Carrying UAs also makes you a target for NPC pirates – be alert.
  • Carrying UAs is illegal and will result in fines if you are scanned.

Approved Target Stations

SystemStationPads AvailableGroupConfirmed ByAddedUA Count
VaratiBond HubAllCanonnLord Zoltan19th Dec70+ (7/Jan)
MillcayacBerliner PlatformMediumCommunism InterstellarJane Turner20th DecNew
More to be added

Why should I do it?

For science of course!

Also, One CMDR, judged to have made an outstanding contribution, will be chosen to receive:

  • A paint job pack of their choosing from the Canonn
  • An EGX Skin/Decal (codes given out at EGX Birmingham, UK, this September)

If this player happens to be an XBox player - we'll have to come to an arrangement :)

To be eligible for this prize - and to help us collate the sales, please email your sales to uasale@canonn.science (this is new - originally I said to post on this thread, which you still can if you want - but email is preferred)

We're looking at additional prizes... Watch this space...

Solo/Open/Group?

Whatever you want - PG is probably better than Solo, as we're not sure sales have an impact in solo. If we get some more stations - perhaps we'll set up a solo-only one ;)

Thanks for reading, and good luck CMDRs! O7
 
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Nice one, but Bond Hub doesn't have a black market

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Nevermind, I'm blind. Contacts tab.
 
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Professor Palin announcing a CG to get a base established on Maia B1BA (think 'Bieber') is great news and many CMDRs, including a large number of Canonn Members, have already delivered hundreds of thousands of tonnes of Evacuation Shelters to Nelson Works, Dahan.

We will continue to support this CG until it finishes just before the new year, but we think we (i.e. you!) can do some serious science as well.

Back on the 4th December 3301, Dr Arcanonn called for all CMDRs to cease the distribution of Unknown Artefacts via the illegal black markets - as it was clear that UA sales have a direct link to station malfunctions and shutdowns.

Unfortunately, and partly thanks to the high value of UAs, it would seem the doctor’s advice has directly led to an increase in the smuggling of UAs – indeed, some CMDRs appear to be using them to target rival powers’ stations, or those of player groups, in order to bring them down. We don’t support this action, but of course it was inevitable.

Meanwhile, Prof Palin is looking to carry on his experiments 'away from the bubble' for safety - but the net effect is, at the same time, to hold the rest of us back.

Bring them to Bond Hub!

We believe the solution to the problems can only be found by getting more malfunctioning stations. But we're not reckless, we want to do it in a controlled manner. So, the Canonn is today volunteering its own station – Bond Hub, in Varati – as a target for all your UA smuggling activity.

If Bond Hub gets shut down, that’s fine – the Canonn is happy for this to happen in the name of science - we're sure a solution will eventually be found that will see it fixed again.

But that's not all.

One station is great, but we also want other player factions to volunteer a station in their own system for this targeted smuggling.

We predict some stations will be affected, and some will not. We want to know what decides - is it the number of UAs? The location? The station type? The only way to know is to test it - sell as many as possible to as many known systems as possible, and hopefully we can start to build that picture.

So, here’s how it works: if you are a group leader, or if you want your group to volunteer – you will need to:

  • Get a reply added to this thread I’ve created in the Group Leaders’ forum. The reply should say what station you are volunteering and the system (obviously).
    • Only stations submitted via the group leaders’ forum will be entertained
  • The station must have a black market
  • Your group must unanimously agree to this – players delivering UAs en masse must be guaranteed safety from your faction’s CMDRs
  • The station and the system will be added to the list at the bottom of this post, along with the forum name of the CMDR who volunteered it – so that everyone can see.
  • The station does not need to be under your faction’s control, but it must not ‘belong’ to another player faction, and must be in your system.
  • If it belongs to a power, then you must be aligned with that power. However, we accept no responsibility for any reprisals you suffer at the hands of other CMDRs backing the same power.

Thank you in advance to those CMDRs who volunteer their systems :D

Smuggling advice

  • UAs can be found in SSS in almost any system 135-150LY from Merope
  • Carrying UAs degrades your ship – you will need at least one AMFU and will need to keep your Cargo Hatch on auto-repair all the time.
  • Carrying UAs also makes you a target for NPC pirates – be alert.
  • Carrying UAs is illegal and will result in fines if you are scanned.

Approved target stations:

  • Bond Hub, Varati (Canonn) - All landing pads available
  • Awaiting further volunteers!

Participating CMDRs - please feel free to post info (including screenshots if you can) of the trades you make, along with the Station and System you sell them to. Gathering some stats from this will help with the research!

Why should I do it?

For science of course!

Also, one CMDR, judged to have made an outstanding contribution, will be chosen to receive a paint job pack of their choosing from the Canonn. If this player happens to be an XBox player - we'll have to come to an arrangement :)

How long will this go on for?

We're thinking for as long as the Palin CG, but it might be longer, or shorter depending on the number of stations we receive from participating groups and how many CMDRs take part.

Thanks for reading, and good luck CMDRs! O7

I have no clue :):):) you just said
 
Better not do it in open. I will try and be around to kill anyone approaching bond carrying a ua.

Actually I can't be bothered. It's a moronic meta idea, and a kick in the teeth for those who have been struggling with the bgs for the Canonn. I have better things to do, the worse thing is, so do you
 
You don't have to take part if you don't want - plenty of other things to be going on with, like you say.

No need to be rude about it though!
 
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I'm loving a Community Goal that doesnt require setup by FDev.

Good Precedent.

Can you add to your OP a tally of how many UAs have been delivered.
And did you want screenshots in this thread or somewhere else?
 
I'm loving a Community Goal that doesnt require setup by FDev.

Good Precedent.

Can you add to your OP a tally of how many UAs have been delivered.
And did you want screenshots in this thread or somewhere else?

Thanks for your support :)

Yeah, screenshots in this thread would be great thank you - I'll try and keep the best tally I can! (At least that way we'll all be able to make a tally ourselves anyway).

Also - am hoping to add a new station to the list a bit later, as another Player Group has already very kindly volunteered ;)
 
There's a few "What can I do with all my Billions?" Threads around.
See if someone will put up a stake of say five or ten million in Palladium for top contributor.
 
I have added a PLAYER RUN COMMUNITY EVENT section to the Active Community Goal Thread, I'll probably regret it when everyone and their dog wants to start one and asks to be listed :)

But anyhow, I've listed this as the first one to be included. Can I ask a favour that if you see that it's still listed long after it's expired, to give me a nudge to remove it again, please.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=187372&p=2885417#post2885417
 
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There's a few "What can I do with all my Billions?" Threads around.
See if someone will put up a stake of say five or ten million in Palladium for top contributor.

That's a great idea :)

I've also added an email address to this now for everyone to send station-selling pics to (to keep this thread clean and exclusive for discussion etc)

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I have added a PLAYER RUN COMMUNITY EVENT section to the Active Community Goal Thread, I'll probably regret it when everyone and their dog wants to start one and asks to be listed :)

But anyhow, I've listed this as the first one to be included. Can I ask a favour that if you see that it's still listed long after it's expired, to give me a nudge to remove it again, please.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=187372&p=2885417#post2885417

Cool - thanks :) I'll be sure to keep an eye on that ;) Yeah you might have quite some demand!
 
New Station Added

Thanks to Jane Turner and the Communism Interstellar Group for today volunteering Berliner Platform in the Millcayac system as a new target station :D

Any more groups who are keen to get involved, please do (instructions in the spoiler tag in the OP)!
 
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TL;DR: Find UAs, sell them at any station listed in the 'Approved Target Stations' list

For more background, or if your player group wants to 'donate' a station to the experiment see below:

Palin, UAs and Science
Professor Palin announcing a CG to get a base established on Maia B1BA (think 'Bieber') is great news and many CMDRs, including a large number of Canonn Members, have already delivered hundreds of thousands of tonnes of Evacuation Shelters to Nelson Works, Dahan.

We will continue to support this CG until it finishes just before the new year, but we think we (i.e. you!) can do some serious science as well.

Back on the 4th December 3301, Dr Arcanonn called for all CMDRs to cease the distribution of Unknown Artefacts via the illegal black markets - to try to prevent the spread of station malfunctions and shutdowns.

Unfortunately, and partly thanks to their high value, it would seem the doctor’s advice has directly led to an increase in the smuggling of UAs – indeed, some CMDRs appear to be using them to target rival powers’ stations, or those of player groups, in order to bring them down! We don’t support this action, but of course it was inevitable.

Meanwhile, Prof Palin is looking to carry on his experiments 'away from the bubble' for safety - but the net effect is, at the same time, to hold the rest of us back.

Let's Sell UAs Safely!

We now think we need to try to get more malfunctioning stations. But we're not reckless, we want to do it in a controlled manner. So, the Canonn is today volunteering its own station – Bond Hub, in Varati – as a target for all your UA smuggling activity, and inviting all other player groups to volunteer at least one of their stations with a black market too.

If Bond Hub gets shut down, that’s fine – the Canonn is happy for this to happen in the name of science - we're sure a solution will eventually be found that will see it fixed again.

Player Groups - volunteer your station!

If you're a group leader or a member who wants your group to get involved please do the following:

  • Get a reply added to this thread I’ve created in the Group Leaders’ forum. The reply should say what station you are volunteering and the system (obviously).
    • Only stations submitted via the group leaders’ forum will be entertained
  • The station must have a black market
  • Your group must unanimously agree to this – players delivering UAs en masse must be guaranteed safety from your faction’s CMDRs
  • The station and the system will be added to the list at the bottom of this post, along with the forum name of the CMDR who volunteered it – so that everyone can see.
  • The station does not need to be under your faction’s control, but it must not ‘belong’ to another player faction, and must be in your system.
  • If it belongs to a power, then you must be aligned with that power. However, we accept no responsibility for any reprisals you suffer at the hands of other CMDRs backing the same power.

Thank you in advance to those CMDRs who volunteer their systems :D

Smuggling advice

  • UAs can be found in SSS in almost any system 135-150LY from Merope
  • Carrying UAs degrades your ship – you will need at least one AFMU and will need to keep your Cargo Hatch on auto-repair all the time.
  • Carrying UAs also makes you a target for NPC pirates – be alert.
  • Carrying UAs is illegal and will result in fines if you are scanned.

Approved Target Stations

SystemStationPads AvailableGroupConfirmed ByAddedUA Count
VaratiBond HubAllCanonnLord Zoltan19th Dec20+
MillcayacBerliner PlatformMediumCommunism InterstellarJane Turner20th DecNew
More to be added

Why should I do it?

For science of course!

Also, One CMDR, judged to have made an outstanding contribution, will be chosen to receive:

  • A paint job pack of their choosing from the Canonn
  • An EGX Skin/Decal (codes given out at EGX Birmingham, UK, this September)

If this player happens to be an XBox player - we'll have to come to an arrangement :)

To be eligible for this prize - and to help us collate the sales, please email your sales to uasale@canonn.science (this is new - originally I said to post on this thread, which you still can if you want - but email is preferred)

We're looking at additional prizes... Watch this space...

Solo/Open/Group?

Whatever you want - PG is probably better than Solo, as we're not sure sales have an impact in solo. If we get some more stations - perhaps we'll set up a solo-only one ;)

How long will this go on for?

For as long as the Palin CG as a minimum - the more stations we can get added to the list, the longer it goes on - or until we get some kind of hard conclusion from the experiment.

Thanks for reading, and good luck CMDRs! O7


Exactly what are we trying to achieve with this?

To me, shutting down Bond seems like a bad idea.
If we are to experiment with 'station cures', it's nice to do it at Bond.

I'm all for experimenting, but not in Varati. We should pick NPC controlled stations for these experiments.
 
Exactly what are we trying to achieve with this?

To me, shutting down Bond seems like a bad idea.
If we are to experiment with 'station cures', it's nice to do it at Bond.

I'm all for experimenting, but not in Varati. We should pick NPC controlled stations for these experiments.

Well - if you think about it, shutting down Bond - if it happened - wouldn't really be a great loss to us, especially given that there almost certainly *will* be a solution to these malfunctions in the end. If it's off-line, it can't change hands back to one of the NPC factions anyway - it's not like we are a power, nor do we wish to be, so the loss of Bond will make literally no difference to our faction. The same goes for any other player faction, too - with the possible exception of those who haven't yet taken over other stations.
 
Well - if you think about it, shutting down Bond - if it happened - wouldn't really be a great loss to us, especially given that there almost certainly *will* be a solution to these malfunctions in the end. If it's off-line, it can't change hands back to one of the NPC factions anyway - it's not like we are a power, nor do we wish to be, so the loss of Bond will make literally no difference to our faction. The same goes for any other player faction, too - with the possible exception of those who haven't yet taken over other stations.

I'm still sceptical. I would like to see Bond Hub as the station where the cure is discovered. That is not going to happen if it's closed.
 
So much for "we want all commanders to stop selling these". ;)

Absolutely - as my spoiler text (at least used to) say: that was prudent advice based on our group identity: the scientists expressing caution, etc etc.

But the reality is it's going on anyway - except as a means for powers to undermine other powers.

Plus there are the other experiments that have happened - JManis' being a prime example.

I understand some players' concerns about shutting stations down - for example Domm - who's done so much work on the local system missions - but this won't hurt our influence at all.

Bring in the other player groups, and do what the market wants: sell them, but instead of doing it in a weaponise manner, do it in a way that's entirely voluntary between as many groups as possible.

I/we can't make anyone do this, nor ultimately persuade anyone that thinks it's a pointless endeavour - that's the nature of Elite and the excellent CMDRs with whom I am proud to associate - but I wouldn't have posted it if there wasn't enough support from the Canonn council for this. I admit, it's been a hard sell - and if it doesn't fly, then I'll take it on the chin - but I reckon it could just help push things on. Of it doesn't well, it'll have been a bit of fun (hopefully).

Not asking for a huge contribution - just as much as you're willing to give within the realms of your game time. If that's zero I'm not going to take it personally! :D

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I'm still sceptical. I would like to see Bond Hub as the station where the cure is discovered. That is not going to happen if it's closed.

Yeah, I understand - so would I - but I think the Palin CG is wrestling that away from us... Although it might steer the story in another direction if we've actively jumped on board.

And there might yet be some common thread between affected or unaffected stations that we've not yet identified - this could help us identify that - possibly.

It's all speculation of course - but then, the majority of our activity here has been just that ;)
 
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