Grinding Rates

[Ultrasnail]

Guys,

Just wondered how people are making money out in the universe. Or should I say how people are making money quickly.

I have not had as much time as I would have liked to play E: D yet, and came into Full Release with an Asp I had earned through some bugs that I had exploited and ticketed in Gamma and Beta so felt that I would enforce my own wipe. I therefore started small and have made my way up to a Lakon Type 6 where I can earn around 800,000 credits per hour on a half decent trade route. Obviously I can double that with a type 7 etc. is this the most efficient way at this time however? (That's roughly 500/t one way and 1200/t on the way back)

I have tried mining, and whilst ammusing to start with, and requires a lot of up front investment, seems to yield poor average returns (had a couple of better runs ).

Random USS visits has yielded what I earn now in bounties, however seems pretty erratic.

Missions work OK, but seem to cost me dear on some of the hunter type missions. My repair bills, must remember to dodge those incoming shots

What are other people's experiences / rates. Am I missing a trick? I just can't earn what I did in Beta

 

[PillowTalk]

Trading Rares is quick money if you use the "Fastest Route" in your planner. Just make sure you can get fuel somewhere when you need it. Also, since Rares come in limited supply, you don't even need a large ship to make large quantities of cash. A Cobra, working in Lave, which is the highest concetration of Rares I am aware of, can get ~1,000,000 filling up 32 tons and taking it to Alioth or further.

 

[changtau2005]

A trader's route is his life. Take the time to head out into the frontier and find a good route. I might consider running a route if it's at least 1kCr/t on average. The one I'm running right now gives 1350 one way and 1440 the other, ~20ly apart. In an Annie, that's just over 1 mil every 10 minutes.

Find a good route, and don't ever post it onto trading tools, because what that does is cause overexploitation of the route, which degrades the price spread and destroy its value. The commodities you trade need time to recover their supply and demand, and only supports a fixed volume of trading before it degrades. You put in the effort to find it, enjoy it yourself. It's not hard at all.

 

[-SOVEREIGN-]

[...] and came into Full Release with an Asp I had earned through some bugs that I had exploited and ticketed in Gamma and Beta so felt that I would enforce my own wipe. [...] I just can't earn what I did in Beta [...]

Anyway, you can find a better route for 1,3k/t each way, but I doubt you will get mich higher than that and that's your maximum earning potential right now.

 

[Spar]

There are better runs out there than what you are currently obtaining for normal trade runs. Personally, using a Type 6 @100T i can get a there and back profit of 270800, round trip of about 12mins. You just need to find those high supply high demand runs that deal in the expensive items, they are out there you just need to look about

 

[bigmuthatrukka]

the other factor besides the obvious profit is to make sure you can get where you are going quickly, idealy one jump, and have the stations under 300ls from the arrival point. with a type 6 in a similar setup I was doing 1mil every 50 minutes. There are much faster ways of making money that are more enjoyable though but you know the first rule of fight club..........

 

[Ultrasnail]

Hi,
Thanks to those who have taken the time to answer.

From a trading perspective, I knew mine wasn't the best route, but there are other reasons to be where I am. So for me, for now, it's good enough.

I was more interested in other peoples credit making rates doing other stuff. Or in fact whether there is an alternative to trading for straight credit acquisition? My gut feel is trading is currently the only sensible way to build up credits in a significant way (although I do find the classic milk run scenario just a little dull - so it will always be a means to an end).

Does anyone fervently disagrees with my gut?

 

[Marasmusine]

I take it very easy, I only play for about 1 or 2 hours in an evening. All I do is collect and sell map data using the basic scanner for about 250,000 a week. I'm fine with that.

 

[bigmuthatrukka]

Hi,
Thanks to those who have taken the time to answer.

From a trading perspective, I knew mine wasn't the best route, but there are other reasons to be where I am. So for me, for now, it's good enough.

I was more interested in other peoples credit making rates doing other stuff. Or in fact whether there is an alternative to trading for straight credit acquisition? My gut feel is trading is currently the only sensible way to build up credits in a significant way (although I do find the classic milk run scenario just a little dull - so it will always be a means to an end).

Does anyone fervently disagrees with my gut?

Unless you are particularly adept at the art of kicking ass, you are probably correct. It is the most guaranteed efficient way of getting creds. It never hurts every now and again to go and do the odd bulletin board mission to break the monotony. If you are reasonably tough you can hang around nav beacons or resource extraction sites in anarchy systems and do uss/pirate interdictions/shoot anyone you like and rob their stuff. This can yield a good 500k to 1 mil an hour (including all the stuff you'll scoop including stuff like military plans/rare art etc) Just don't get suckered in to taking on more than you can take, and with a kill warrant scanner, prepare to have to go 80-100 lyrs to collect bounties with the other factions.

 

[TomJoad]

Trading with a Type 6 at the moment.

I have 2 areas I trade in, one is 117ly from SOL the other 180ly.

The closer one I trade between 3 systems in a loop, A - B - C - A. Profit from this is trip is around $267,000 ± from trades. When the missions are there I also pick up up 4 slaves from C, sell 2 back to C via the bulletin board and always carry 2 slaves back to A and sell via the bulletin board if the job is available, both of these sales are worth at least $48,000, $20,000 profit. (I found one that involves smuggling 2 slaves into a Federation station at $52,000 +.) There is also a station 9ly from here that sells imperial slaves for $15,000 odd. At one point these where been sold for the same price as slaves so I was making over $5,000 profit per imperial slave selling to A......

This 3 system loop takes around 20min if that, maybe longer if I mess about. I am friendly in C and A so I don't get any Interdictions there and very rarely in B while coming up to the station.

When this route got a little slower I moved out for a little, less stations and trading routes there so profits are well lower. I hung around for a fews days and returned.

It has become a trading simulator and only last night I created a excel doc with the systems stations and rates...... How did I get here :S

 

[Danneh]

Gonna share my route (if you're in empire space) since I've killed it a bit now:

Nehet (Xuesen Orbital, 2500ls): Performance Enhancers
13.1LY ->
Shapsugabus (brilliant system! Lee Station, Abe Dock and Balog Dock, between 15-60ls): Gold - Lee Station is currently the best since Abe Dock and Balog Dock have been hit hard with the gold trading!

Nets about 850cr/ton on the perfomance enhancers, about 1450 on the gold. Was ~1100 and ~1500 but like I say, that's gone downhill since I've been trading it. Go for it!

 

[Dukov Nook]

There are better runs out there than what you are currently obtaining for normal trade runs. Personally, using a Type 6 @100T i can get a there and back profit of 270800, round trip of about 12mins. You just need to find those high supply high demand runs that deal in the expensive items, they are out there you just need to look about

This. I found a good Palladium/Resource Separator route that pays this at only 2 jumps per leg. A little looking around, a little statistical analysis, and you'll find routes doing this that don't require moving to Rares.

 

[Unpleasant]

Hi,
Thanks to those who have taken the time to answer.

From a trading perspective, I knew mine wasn't the best route, but there are other reasons to be where I am. So for me, for now, it's good enough.

I was more interested in other peoples credit making rates doing other stuff. Or in fact whether there is an alternative to trading for straight credit acquisition? My gut feel is trading is currently the only sensible way to build up credits in a significant way (although I do find the classic milk run scenario just a little dull - so it will always be a means to an end).

Does anyone fervently disagrees with my gut?

I have a few vipers parked at stations near conflict zones and I use an ASP for trading.

The ASP has a large jump range with the right upgrades and a good fuel tank. I find the 96t cargo space I have is enough for the rare trade runs I do. Don't ever fill it to max with rares, but nearly. Get's me maybe 2 million an hour, hour and a half.

Most of the time I'll go one way unload and log out as I'm bored of trading now. I'll not trade every time I log in, sometimes I'll nip and grab a viper and go to a conflict zone. I'm good for about 20-25 kills in 1 outing in a conflict zone, which nets me 60+K in vouchers.