I've never had any interest in the Grand Theft Auto games because frankly I take issue with game play that glorifies killing civilians and law enforcement. However, I've encountered videos online that imply that one can totally ignore this aspect of the game and just enjoy a huge and diverse sandbox of activities. What first grabbed my eye was the ability to fly planes, since one of the biggest things I miss from PC gaming is a good flight simulator. I now also see we can drive cars, motorcycles, boats, take taxis, etc.

So my question is this - if I buy GTA 5, can I just completely ignore the story and play the role of a law-abiding citizen right from the start? If so, how does that work with things like currency? Can I make "honest" money in this game, even though it's based on being a criminal?

How do I get to do things like fly an airplane - can I just jump in a plane and take off?

Can I actually play a "good guy" and stop crime when I see it? I don't mind being a vigilante in this game, that might actually be fun.

And finally, if all this is possible, do I get to pick which character I am? Is my character "in character", as in, will my character act and say things that a cop-killing thug would, or do I have some control over this?
 
Well, GTA5 is a story, and you play through as 3 different characters. You cannot control their personalities, or what they say. They are all rather sorry individuals, too.

Yes, you can sandbox between missions and do whatever, but doing the story is really what it's about. And the flight models are very gamey -- I was able to easily fly a helicopter with just a few key strokes. Same with airplanes.

Now I really enjoyed the game, but I had to get into the whole 'being a criminal' thing. GTA5 is designed so that being "bad" feels very good. It's got a lot of great scenarios, and many ways to approach things, but in the end you gotta serve the story.

Now I'm talking only from my experience with the single-player game. I have not done any of the PVP online stuff.
 
Now I'm talking only from my experience with the single-player game. I have not done any of the PVP online stuff.

What about this "director mode" I've seen mentioned? I'm okay if the flight mechanics are crap, as I'm not looking to replace an actual flight simulator, as the geography is too limited for that. I'm more interested right now to experience what a simulator-like game can achieve on a console, graphics and immersion wise. If I were to buy GTA 5 for this (assuming there's some option for sandbox play), I'd wait for it to be on sale. I think I've seen it aggressively priced in recent sales due to its age.
 
I have completed a lot of the GTA games; except five. My Xbox is not working well at the moment. Exploring and access to areas is limited by the game play.

Normally it is played as islands and to get over to the next one/part, you had to complete a set of missions. I found San Andreas the best, for range of the open world; but then IV was pretty good, as well. I would avoid the missions as much as possible and just accumulate weapons/ammo, by finding the spurn points. Playing the missions with a better weapon than intended, is lots of fun. Moving about in Helicopters etc. long before you are meant to own them; is also massive amount of fun. Although; getting to such things, can be very tricky, sometimes.
 
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Yes, GTA5 excuses itself as a "spoof" of the criminal side of real life and it can be fun and funny to play to an extent, but you have to play as three different criminal characters (alternately throughout the story) who have ugly, selfish and ruthless sociopathic tendencies and personalities. But it's always been that way in the GTA series. The games in the series also started full on cussing after the more tempered GTA3:vice city. So you'll be hearing all the modern obscenities spoken almost every sentence in GTA4&5. That said it has probably some of the best art design and simulated feel of American cities and vehicles ever done in computer games. After I played GT4, I got sick of the crudeness and gave it away. (even the signs in "times square" had crude sex jokes and imagery, which annoyingly killed the simulation of NYC for me. You kind of try not to take it seriously playing these spoofs of criminals, but eventually for me, I could only rp them for so long before feeling sick and uncomfortable of it.) I still have GTA5 but have long removed it from my computer drive. GTA5 was more close to home because I had lived in the SoCal region for a while and enjoyed seeing familiar vistas of Los Angeles and the beaches & coasts reconstructed in the game. (And there are a few bright spots in GTA5 such as being able to play tennis and lounging at nice resorts, rich homes, cruising through Beverly Hills in a luxury car, etc. outside of the lowlife elements.) Supposedly there is a now a fan mod that allows you to play a cop in GTA5 so I may try it again someday (or maybe not) and I'm not sure about the PS4 version with fan mods.. (Edit: about the online PvP mode; I hadn't tried it out either, nor have I tried the mode with the mods yet). Overall, I hear you Duck. I also played the GTA games mainly for the simulation of the city world and the cars without having to play the dollhouse games of the Sims.

For flight simulation, yes, GTA5 is nowhere near close to FSX or X-plane level of realism in flight and doesn't really have the more comprehensive fidelity in aviation as you can get in FSX. But yes, the view from the planes and helicopters is very nice, the view is nicely immersive with the detail (for low elevation flight), and there are several stunt missions and locations involving planes, helicopters and wacky kinds of skydiving. yes, once you finish a related mission or gain access, you can get into the spawned airplanes at their locations.
 
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So you'll be hearing all the modern obscenities spoken almost every sentence in GTA4&5. That said it has probably some of the best art design and simulated feel of American cities and vehicles ever done in computer games. After I played GT4, I got sick of the crudeness and gave it away. (even the signs in "times square" had crude sex jokes and imagery, which annoyingly killed the simulation of NYC for me. You kind of try not to take it seriously playing these spoofs of criminals, but eventually for me, I could only rp them for so long before feeling sick and uncomfortable of it.)

I've been watching some videos of Director Mode in GTA 5 (sounds like that is what I want), and I have noticed that the NPCs seem to all be "unpleasant". These videos were made "down in the hood" (the shadier side of town), but it sounds like from what you are saying the entire open world is this way in GTA 5. Are there no nice suburbs were neighbors are kind, polite, and civilized? From what I saw of the videos, even the cops are basically thugs with badges.
 

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Its a great game in single player, I don't really like the online play (having said that, its another game I have started and not finished!)
 
It'a all about the "tropes".
The game is super funny and really well done imo,

I don't want to give anything away, but there are characters you'll want to kill, hahaha!
It's a big over the top cartoon, and you can still kind of play the hero, sort of...

Play the stock market!(read: do insider trading)
Having lots of money is fun.
Once you get to a certain point you can fly around to your hearts content but the world shrinks rapidly.


Thinking about that game makes me remember this song.
;)

[video=youtube;K57dVZ4oHtQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57dVZ4oHtQ[/video]
 
If it's "simulator" (airquotes) experience you want, you will far more enjoy Ace Combat than GTA. Even when it makes you do stupid things like flying a fighter jet through a metro tunnel or something:

[video=youtube_share;_bDMUmx9slQ]https://youtu.be/_bDMUmx9slQ?t=7m46s[/video]

I'm sure there are new ones for current playstation models but I fondly remember this PS2 one ;-)

And when you're ready to go back to big boys on PC... DCS World is waiting (click the img) :D
 
If it's "simulator" (airquotes) experience you want, you will far more enjoy Ace Combat than GTA. Even when it makes you do stupid things like flying a fighter jet through a metro tunnel or something. I'm sure there are new ones for current playstation models but I fondly remember this PS2 one ;-)

Oh I am waiting with baited breath for AC7, which is coming to PS4 sometime this year... It will even support PSVR! Since you have experience with it, let me ask - does AC support any sort of "free flight" mode?
 
Oh I am waiting with baited breath for AC7, which is coming to PS4 sometime this year... It will even support PSVR! Since you have experience with it, let me ask - does AC support any sort of "free flight" mode?

Frankly my experience with Ace Combat is limited to AC5, and from what I remember (vaguely, as my ps2 died years ago) there was no free flight mode, alas :(
 
Oh I am waiting with baited breath for AC7, which is coming to PS4 sometime this year... It will even support PSVR! Since you have experience with it, let me ask - does AC support any sort of "free flight" mode?

Not as such.If they follow on from the previous earlier games once you have completed the main game you can replay all the missions as you want.I am a big fan of Ace Combat but the last 2 were terrible.Its nice to see they are going back to the "old" tried and tested storyline.
 
The big thing about the GTA series is that it's all very tongue in cheek, with many parodies of real life things...

Back in the day (the late 90's and early 2000's in this case :) ), i had a pretty similar view of the series overall as you (that it was too amoral/too crime based for my liking), then i got GTA Vice City in 2002 and saw what all the fuss was about and i played every main GTA game since (as well as the PSP exclusive titles)...

Indeed while the GTA games in general have a lot you can do outside of their generally crime based stories, driving cars, flying aircraft, walking, cycling, running around, skydiving and in particular in GTA V, playing golf, tennis and listening to a varied sound track etc, it's hard to make a massive amount of money without doing the story missions, though it's certainly possible to make money 99% legally, once you "borrow" the likes of a Taxi in pretty much every GTA game i've played, ambulances and fire engines in some entries in the series, you can certainly make money doing good things.

Even among the story missions, while indeed many see you robbing bank and shooting at people etc, many other see you doing totally innocent and helpful things, though you might have to play though several "bad" missions to get to the "nice" ones.

In general though, there's a lot of choice in how you complete even the criminal based missions, you can go around shoot every one in sight or only shoot at people you've no other option to.

Indeed, while the earlier GTA games were very tongue, with GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas being still very fun and playable and in particular of those, Vice City is my personal favourite - it's set in the 80's and is possibly the most comical, most not to be taken seriously game in the series, and like basically all GTA game has a great soundtrack, but 80's music is one of my favourite periods and a highlight for the series as a whole...

On realism then, GTA IV has been the most realistic entry in the series to date, which is both good and bad, if you want to play it cleanly.

It has the most realistic driving in the series, with cars having a real sense of weight to them and they're a lot harder to brake from high speed and to throw around corners than previous entries in the series.

Something i really liked, that many games don't do, is clearly show you if you've only wounded someone or actually killed them, in particular shooting police officers in the arms will make them drop their guns, in the legs will see them slump down and eventual give up fighting you and limp or crawl to safety, while fist fights will only see people go down, clearly still alive, possibly to be healed by ambulance personnel, generally characters are only killed if you shoot them in the head, cheat, run them over or blow them up etc...

While many of the early missions see you driving a taxi, before someone tries to kill you, dragging your character back into a (mostly) bad lifestyle

But GTA V gave us more of a middle ground between the more arcadey comedic older games and the more realistic GTA IV.

Car handling is nice but more arcadey than in IV, but in particular, V threw away, IV's "lets's clearly show when a character is alive or dead" animations, where again, like in many other games, hitting people always kills them eventually (not that constantly hitting someone in real life does them any good, but it's nice when a game recognises your choice not to kill, unless REALLY forced to :) ).

Police officers, then while sure you can bring them down with shots to the legs, won't ever stop shooting at you, if you're pinned down and can't get away from them, you might have no choice but to kill them, but again much of the time you can run past or mostly ignore many firefights.

In various entries in the series you can buy businesses and perform a certain amount of legal activities, such as towing cars and salvaging ship wrecks in GTAV, you even get to experience being a dock worker for about half an hour of GTAV's story, moving shipping containers with a giant crane/cargo loader...

Overall a big thing in any GTA game is choice in how you play it and how you interact with its' world, which are indeed pretty varied.

Indeed one of the freest and least structured parts in any GTA game, is GTA Online which is included as part of GTAV...

Unlike in the main games/modes in the series, in which you're locked into playing as very specific characters (one in most games and three in GTAV), in GTA Online, you can create any type of character you like, and in particular if you play the mode exclusively in "invite only sessions", you get to experience basically all the modes features, without being hounded by the many kill hungry/anarchy loving players you meet online, while you can play people in the likes of tennis against other people in the mode, outside of your private actual sessions.

While as long as you don't mind "borrowing" a few cars, you can make plenty money to buy various things in the modes world, though slower that preforming other activities (but i've literally made a few million selling cars at up to 10,000 at a time in the mode :) ) .

Overall, all i can recommend is that you either find someone you know who has entries in the series you can borrow or test out in their homes etc, or failing that that you try buying some of the older entries in the series on sale and seeing if you like them :) .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto
 
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Bit of an old thread but I will add my two cents

GTA5 I feel is not as good due to the 3 characters you get to play - because of this you never really feel 'connected' to any of them and I found that off putting and in addition it is really just the same locations as GTA San Andreas - but with only 1 city

GTA4 is the most 'realistic' although due to it's single city location it is really more like a GTA 3 re-boot.

GTA San Andreas is the best of the lot by a long way - complete game changer when it came out - it has aged and not too well but if you can get around that it is well worth playing

Vice City and the Original were good but the original especially is flawed in many ways.
 
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