Guide recommendation for LIVE Titan material gathering?

[Scoob]

Hey all,

I'm missing numerous Thargoid materials and it seems some of these can be gathered from the surface of a LIVE Titan. I've done gathering from a dead Titan in the past, but not a Live one. I built a cold ship (Clipper) to investigate things. It has a TV beam and an Abrasion Blaster for gathering. However, whenever I get even remotely close to the Titan, it instantly agros and I have to flee. It seems far less aware of me, and far less aggressive when it does spot me, when I'm doing regular bombing runs. No other players in the instance (PG) but the odd AI Pilot - they seem to be in a support role though (limpets) and not actively attacking.

I can stay nice and cold, well below 20%, without needing the TV Beam or Heatsinks, but I cannot get even remotely close enough to see the surface bits I need to blast off and collect. I sorta wanted to just try this for myself first, being cool and fast being my main defences, but I'm not really making as good a progress as I'd hoped. Not found anything to collect or blast yet lol.

Are there any good current guides - video or written - for this activity people recommend?

I'm currently sat in the asteroid field surrounding Raijin, super chilly, assessing things.

Cheers.

 

[Jack Winter]

You mention not using the beam but I hope that you are aware that using a cooling beam does aggro the Titan..

 

[Scoob]

You mention not using the beam but I hope that you are aware that using a cooling beam does aggro the Titan..

Yes, I'm aware, but thanks for the tip. Titan was continuously VERY angry for some reason. Things were all quiet and peaceful - the odd Thargoid and the odd friendly - not much going on. However, as soon as I got close it'd start shooting at me and there would be dozens of red blips on the scanner. Not sure what those blips were, Scouts and potentially other ships warping in I assume. Too hot for me regardless lol.

I've left it for the night now as I'm way too tired to be flying a ship, let alone in a hostile area.

 

[Kira Goto]

I don’t have much to suggest on the subject of approaching an active Titan - as currently it may aggro more easily to targets present in its vicinity (if you’re going to Raijin) because it is vulnerable to attack, even if you are in solo play.

But once it enters meltdown (you will get an in-game message for this and status can also be tracked on external websites), if you’re there all by yourself (best ensured via solo play) no Thargoids will/should become aggressive and rather abandon the Titan, making it an effectively hazard-free zone to roam around and gather materials (bring a pulse-wave xeno scanner for easier location, particularly if looking for Hardened Surface Fragments), the human storage pods, or anything else you’d like to do there. Hopefully, anyway, if they haven’t stealth changed the way the environment behaves.

The only ‘problem’ with that is that it’s a limited 24 hour/one day window and subject to when players knock out the final heart.

 

[r09u3]

I would suggest going once the titan loses it's last heart. It's will still be harvestable for 24 hours and you won't have to worry as much about getting killed. I spent a few hours harvesting on the last one after it went into distress and it you stay out of the way of the fleeing ships they won't bother you.

 

[Koma Pahu]

I tried with a cold ‘Vette and has the same issue, tried again with my P2 bomber and managed to get the bits I needed for my shards. I don’t know if ship size matters at all, but I knew I can stealth around in the P2.

I would suggest going once the titan loses it's last heart. It's will still be harvestable for 24 hours and you won't have to worry as much about getting killed. I spent a few hours harvesting on the last one after it went into distress and it you stay out of the way of the fleeing ships they won't bother you.

I really like this idea, will try it with my alt this week

 

[Kzak]

+1 for the above suggestions about collecting materials from a titan going into meltdown. You won't have Thargoids coming after you (possibly unless you fire on them first) as they will be too busy evacuating, leaving you free to collect all the materials you want.

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

Yes, I had this when I tried, so not just changed now - I tried it when Thor was both Invulnerable and when Completely Vulnerable when the hearts were going down.
Used a pulse wave xeno scanner, abrasion blaster and had collector limpets ready.
It was my cold K2 bomber adapted for this attempt so was at 18% and never used TVBeam once!

As soon as I got close, all hell would break loose and rebuy was very quick (can't remember if the pulse wave scanner set it all off or still happened without a scan)
I even tried to ignore all the fire and Thargoids, just searching with collector limpet out ready, but could not get a single item from it both times (with several runs each time after rebuys, just to check it was not just coincidence - it was EVERY time), so just went back to bombing the core - very disappointed.

And no, I never had any Thargoid bits or pods, just limpets.

 

[Weps]

Reading this thread got me thinking.... FDEV are known for making FOMO stuff, that they then forget about for years... maybe I should also fill up my coffers with those mats that can't be found anywhere else before the last Titan is out.

Any (older) infographic on the mats you can acquire there, and exactly where to mine?

 

[Mako The Grey]

Hey all,

I'm missing numerous Thargoid materials and it seems some of these can be gathered from the surface of a LIVE Titan. ... I built a cold ship (Clipper) to investigate things....However, whenever I get even remotely close to the Titan, it instantly agros and I have to flee.

I can stay nice and cold, well below 20%, without needing the TV Beam or Heatsinks, but I cannot get even remotely close enough to see the surface bits I need to blast off and collect.

Are there any good current guides - video or written - for this activity people recommend?


Cheers.

It's pretty easy to gather materials and OK if the Titan agros if you stay cold. You don't get attacked/damaged if you stay cold and don't get to close to a threat.
A little vid to get you started:

Source: https://youtu.be/nmDNmTjIE6s?t=554

and how to do it during melt down:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lPXj5SDqk

might be a lot easier to go to a Titan that's not already vulnerable (being taken down..Cocijo)

Source: https://youtu.be/2D8JXYuIGA8


I can generally stay right up next to the titan and gather until I run out of cargo space. Rare that I take any actual hull damage. You can also get material from the dead Titan debris filed

Good Luck

 

[BDelacroix]

I tried with a cold ‘Vette and has the same issue, tried again with my P2 bomber and managed to get the bits I needed for my shards. I don’t know if ship size matters at all, but I knew I can stealth around in the P2.

I don't have any hard evidence to point to but it feels like to me that the P2 is a bit stealthier to thargoids than other ships.

 

[aRJay]

I don't have any hard evidence to point to but it feels like to me that the P2 is a bit stealthier to thargoids than other ships.

Perhaps because it is so new that most of the database* they captured don't know about it so it comes up scrambled on their systems much as their stuff does on ours if we don't have a Xeno scanner fitted.

*Well they probably had some reason to collect all those people other than opening a pet shop when they get home.

 

[Reggit]

At an active Titan - I've found you either want a fresh (empty) instance - So there are less Thargoids flying around...
Or you want a packed out instance, so there are so many Cmdrs around, that they can't target you all!
Eitherway, stay as cool as possible

(But visiting a Titan in meltdown would probably be the easiest method)

 

[Scoob]

As many have suggested, visiting the Titan during the melt-down phase would be ideal. However, I suspect my available time to play won't coincide with that period...unless it happens a little later today.

Btw: several people have mentioned "Pulse Wave scanner" is that a special device for detecting the harvestable bits on the Titan's surface? I have a Pulse Wave neutraliser thing to get to the Titan and the better version of the Xeno Scanner, is that what people mean?

@Mako The Grey - thanks for the videos, I'll be sure to take a look at those.

With the Titan in its current state, even staying super cold didn't help me. As soon as I got close to the Titan (not other vessels) all hell broke loose lol. Hopefully I'll be able to get in-game later for a bit, perhaps a couple of hours time. Weather is a bit rubbish here today, so I'll likely not be venturing out.

 

[Scoob]

Just watching that first DTEA video and..well, I did something very similar myself during the approach. He often got HOTTER than I did yet I was spotted and the Titan its self started shooting at me despite always being well under 20% and never going over that like DTEA did. I notice the video is a year old, so perhaps things have changed slightly?

To be clear, while in the asteroids I'm 100% fine, not detected at all - I'm always under 20% heat - I approach slowly and am quickly detected. In the video, he seemed to only go super-cold - i.e. 1% levels - when really close and used the TV beam to achieve this. However, he went over that 20% and wasn't instantly spotted. He got far closer than I did.

Interestingly, before I ever attacked a Titan, I practised just flying around it while cold and I wasn't spotted, I took no hostile actions at all, and wasn't using a TV Beam to stay cool. I was just in a naturally cool (under 20%) ship and was able to fly around close to the Titan without being bothered. That last session however, it started shooting me - and lots of other ships appeared on the scanner - the moment I got close. Perhaps I just need to try again and see what happens.

 

[Kira Goto]

Btw: several people have mentioned "Pulse Wave scanner" is that a special device for detecting the harvestable bits on the Titan's surface? I have a Pulse Wave neutraliser thing to get to the Titan and the better version of the Xeno Scanner, is that what people mean?

Nope, there is three xeno scanners right now. The default with a 500 meter range for a detailed scan on a Thargoid ship, "Enhanced Xeno Scanner" for 2 kilometer active/detailed scan range, and a "Pulse-Wave Xeno Scanner" which will highlight material deposits, sub-surface pod chambers and tissue limpet points on an active (so much as you might consider it active while it is exploding) Titan. You'll only want the materials... those don't show up from as far on sensors and will only be visible with a grainy green glow. Worth noting - Hardened Surface Fragment spawns a little all over the Titan hull, though you may find it around the same spots as sub-surface chambers on the maw side. Phasing Membrane Residue spawns only near the 'launch tubes' on the sides of the body, where Scouts and Glaives (or Scythes) come out, so beware that. Then there is one I don't fully remember the name of which spawns near/on the heat vents (touchy subject on vulnerable Titan, would suggest not looking for those on Raijin in particular).

If you want the materials for AGF immunity, you should just be looking for the surface fragments. The others, I'm not sure what their use is.

Raijin also still hasn't lost heart number 4 so it's unlikely to drop today.

 

[Kira Goto]

Just watching that first DTEA video and..well, I did something very similar myself during the approach. He often got HOTTER than I did yet I was spotted and the Titan its self started shooting at me despite always being well under 20% and never going over that like DTEA did. I notice the video is a year old, so perhaps things have changed slightly?

The one from when Titans first became accessible?

Thargoids were way, WAY less aggressive around them back then, and you could basically avoid detection almost completely just by keeping your heat signature low, or using silent running, so some of the things you may see in there are now much less applicable (if at all). I would, as above, also still suggest visiting Cocijo for a less stressful experience, as Raijin (and its defending Thargoids) may be much more attentive to any targets present in its vicinity because it is exposed to attack.

Also, limpets are about as "stealthy" as a bull in a china shop and Thargoids can detect those things (Glaives especially) from miles away while your ship may not be the thing that is actually detected. Keep them in until you're close to the Titan's surface and have located what you would like to collect.

 

[Scoob]

Thanks @Kira Goto for the additional information. Until today, I wasn't aware that the Pulse scanner was being used to reveal the surface deposits at a greater distance. I thought people were largely just eyeballing it. Perhaps that's easier to do once you're familiar with where everything is.

I'd not actually gotten around to deploying Limpets myself yet, as I was spotted before I'd found a surface deposit. I might give it another go as my ship is parked near by, but I suspect you're right that visiting the other Titan might be a better experience. If I could guarantee being around that 24 hr meltdown period - whenever that might be - I'd be happy to leave things until then. I cannot however.

Btw: Am I right in thinking that the Abrasion Blaster would be better at dislodging the surface deposits than the beam laser? I did read that an abrasion blaster will lead to more fragments being generated.

 

[Kzak]

Another way of using limpets is to target what you want and then use the limpet controller to launch a limpet, the limpet will self-destruct after returning the target to your ship hold/material storage. This limits the time the non-stealthy limpets are active and lets you be more stealthy which is rather important when collecting materials from a Titan.

The abrasion blaster will, as far as I know, increase the number of material fragments to be collected, yes.

 

[Scoob]

Another way of using limpets is to target what you want and then use the limpet controller to launch a limpet, the limpet will self-destruct after returning the target to your ship hold/material storage. This limits the time the non-stealthy limpets are active and lets you be more stealthy which is rather important when collecting materials from a Titan.

The abrasion blaster will, as far as I know, increase the number of material fragments to be collected, yes.

I think I'll have a bit of a play when I have time. The ship I built for this can take 80 limpets, that's a fairly good amount, so I could afford to be a little wasteful. Wonder if we'll ever get a stealthy limpets?...