Halp with outfitting

[Ghostieboi]

Ok, so. I have an Anaconda. I don't know what it is, but 3 or 4 sidewinders can disable her shields in less than a minute. I have 6 pulse lasers, and 2 railguns (will be switching out the rail guns for fragment cannons) And yea, the Class 4 mount has a pulse laser on it. (can't get the particle accelerator on it yet). I have the E8 power plant. What should I get so I can pack a decent punch, while not getting my ass handed to me.

Or, barring any of that, Which is better: Asp Explorer, Python, or Anaconda? I don't do much trading (I have a maxed out Cobra Mk III for smuggling runs). I just want to be able to stop at a distress signal, annihilate whatever ship(s) are there.:S

 

[Clicker]

If you can't afford A-Rated gear or get the biggest Shield Generator available, try some Shield Boosters.

As for answering the question about Distress Calls...A fully combat fitted Anaconda can't be beaten...but costs a fortune.

A cheaper option would be the Python and most manoeuvrable is the Asp.

Other ships not mentioned but should be considered are the Clipper or the Federal Assault Ship.

At the end of the day, it all depends on a lot of other factors you haven't mentioned.
Money, Piloting Skills. Experience, etc.

Hope this helps.

 

[GammaZ]

Do not expect conda to be "i win" button.
Yes, it has a lot of shield and firepower, but at the same time it is big and slow, very easy target to hit.
Even with best outfitting you will still have issues with wings, especially high-ranked ones.
If you do not have enough money to a-grade anaconda, IMO it is better to use FAS/FDL fo combat...

 

[Chris Simon]

Yea, to be honest, wing of four ANYTHING is deadly for any single ship, no matter how big.
If you are doing RES and CZ, a middle sized ship has much better chance to survive. To not get hit as much is always better than bigger shields.

So like GammaZ said, try Ferdy or (if you have fed ranks for her) Assault ship if you are building a pure combat ship.

 

[Slack]

Did you just ask which is a better ship for fighting ASP vs Anaconda? You must be joking. There is no way you can afford a Conda and not know the answer to this. I mean it says ASP "Explorer"..

 

[Ghostieboi]

Did you just ask which is a better ship for fighting ASP vs Anaconda? You must be joking. There is no way you can afford a Conda and not know the answer to this. I mean it says ASP "Explorer"..

Well, at the moment, my asp done a better job than my Conda. Though, I'm guessing its due to the lack of A-class systems. I've put about 142mil into it so far. I may switch back to an asp for now, while I build up my credits to fully outfit it for combat. Seems like Robigo is gonna be my new best friend for a while ><

 

[PhoenicianSon]

Ok, so. I have an Anaconda. I don't know what it is, but 3 or 4 sidewinders can disable her shields in less than a minute. I have 6 pulse lasers, and 2 railguns (will be switching out the rail guns for fragment cannons) And yea, the Class 4 mount has a pulse laser on it. (can't get the particle accelerator on it yet). I have the E8 power plant. What should I get so I can pack a decent punch, while not getting my ass handed to me.

Or, barring any of that, Which is better: Asp Explorer, Python, or Anaconda? I don't do much trading (I have a maxed out Cobra Mk III for smuggling runs). I just want to be able to stop at a distress signal, annihilate whatever ship(s) are there.:S

Unless you have a good 300,000,000 or so to dump into that thing, you should consider working with the Python. It has better manoeuvering, and costs less than half than a fully fitted conda, and really has the same weapon set up where it counts, it is just short the huge and two small.

If you have the ranking, give the Federal Gunship a try. I have one of those and it feels and fights like a lighter Anaconda, despite its greater density as it actually has a greater hull mass than the Anaconda. Here are two builds for each ship, plus one A rated Anaconda to maybe work from and tweak to get within your current budget if you are set on keeping the Conda:

Conda: http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/...d5dv46b.Iw18ZlA=.IwBj4yulVkg=?bn=Anaconda v01
Python: http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/07...8026b.Iw18eQ==.IwBj4yvYg===?bn=Python (Multi)
Federal Gunship: http://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_g....AwRj4zNEg===.Aw18cCMVA===?bn=Fed Gunship v01

 

[GammaZ]

Did you just ask which is a better ship for fighting ASP vs Anaconda? You must be joking. There is no way you can afford a Conda and not know the answer to this. I mean it says ASP "Explorer"..

The answer is not as trivial as it sounds. Both ships are not dedicated combat, but multipurpose ones. Asp is more geared towards exploration, and anaconda towards cargo delivery/trade.
I am 100% sure that skilled asp pilot can take out lazy anaconda one, who is used to rely on his shields to do the job.

Well, at the moment, my asp done a better job than my Conda. Though, I'm guessing its due to the lack of A-class systems. I've put about 142mil into it so far. I may switch back to an asp for now, while I build up my credits to fully outfit it for combat. Seems like Robigo is gonna be my new best friend for a while ><

A am not 100% sure A-grade anaconda is worth the grind. This ship is not the ultimate answer to all problems, by far. You should probably try another ships and will most likely find one that suits you better.

 

[Slack]

The answer is not as trivial as it sounds. Both ships are not dedicated combat, but multipurpose ones. Asp is more geared towards exploration, and anaconda towards cargo delivery/trade.

He never said anything about price, his goal was "I just want to be able to stop at a distress signal, annihilate whatever ship(s) are there" And you cant deny one of the worst ships to try to do that with is an ASP, and one of the best ships (if not the best) is an Anaconda.

Also Conda is just as effective at exploring as an ASP, considering it has the best jump range of any ship.

I am 100% sure that skilled asp pilot can take out lazy anaconda one, who is used to rely on his shields to do the job.

100% sure? I bet if both ships are A'd out, the Conda could just target the ASP and pretty much just sit there without moving while the turrets do the work, the Conda would win unless the ASP ran away. And it doesnt get much lazier than just sitting there. When you have 4k armor/1k shields and more firepower than just about any ship. You dont really have to try vs an ASP, you can be as lazy as you want.

 

[GammaZ]

Also Conda is just as effective at exploring as an ASP, considering it has the best jump range of any ship.
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100% sure? I bet if both ships are A'd out, the Conda could just target the ASP and pretty much just sit there without moving while the turrets do the work, the Conda would win unless the ASP ran away. And it doesnt get much lazier than just sitting there. When you have 4k armor/1k shields and more firepower than just about any ship. You dont really have to try vs an ASP, you can be as lazy as you want.

Yes, the only problem is planetary landings changed things noticably. It is no longer just plain better, it has disadvantages.
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Yes, absolutely sure. Turrets are completely pointless, they require target lock and are effectively countered by chaff. You will not have target lock most of the time, and when you do, there will be chaff.
Additionaly asp can now have 2.6K armour too...

 

[Slack]

Yes, the only problem is planetary landings changed things noticably. It is no longer just plain better, it has disadvantages.
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Yes, absolutely sure. Turrets are completely pointless, they require target lock and are effectively countered by chaff. You will not have target lock most of the time, and when you do, there will be chaff.
Additionaly asp can now have 2.6K armour too...

So what you are saying is if the Conda did absolutely nothing and pretty much just sat there, the ASP would have a chance? XD

Btw I bet you would run out of chaff/heat sinks before you got down to 50% of the Condas hull..

Edit: 2.6k armor on ASP with literally no room for anything else... The Conda has 4k armor with room for the biggest shield and plenty of SCB. I feel dumb just comparing the 2 ships in combat.. I mean its not even close.

 

[GammaZ]

So what you are saying is if the Conda did absolutely nothing and pretty much just sat there, the ASP would have a chance? XD

Btw I bet you would run out of chaff/heat sinks before you got down to 50% of the Condas hull..

Edit: Btw not sure where youre getting 2.6k armor on ASP. Most I can get on it is 2k and literally filling every compartment with HRP, with no room for anything else... The Conda has 4k armor with room for the biggest shield and plenty of SBS. I feel dumb just comparing the 2 ships in combat.. I mean its not even close.

The point is - a lot of people hugely overestimate conda's combat capability.
And no, it does not take that long to take down shield\hull, the difference is not that huge. And recent SCB\HRP changes help that a lot.
2.6k - no shield and military grade or mirrored armour.
Also everything depends on pilot. There are good conda pilots, but those who depend on shield\armour\turrets are doomed, they can be taken down not even by asp, DBS will do...

 

[Slack]

The point is - a lot of people hugely overestimate conda's combat capability.
And no, it does not take that long to take down shield\hull, the difference is not that huge. And recent SCB\HRP changes help that a lot.
2.6k - no shield and military grade or mirrored armour.
Also everything depends on pilot. There are good conda pilots, but those who depend on shield\armour\turrets are doomed, they can be taken down not even by asp, DBS will do...

My bad I noticed after i was using ASP scout, which had a max of 2k. Either way in the real world no ASP set up will take down a "Combat" Conda no matter how lazy the pilot is, period.. The vids you see of smaller ships taking on Condas are basically Condas set up for trading. With no HRP, tiny shields ect.. The reason its such a capable combat ship is because its nimble, and can get even fast targets into its crosshairs. With its firepower it will melt that ASP so fast you will forget you had any hull reinforcement packages to begin with.

Funny story, yesterday I was docking my Conda and put it on auto pilot. I switched over to the forum and just sort of ignored Elite for a min. I kept hearing shooting in the background, but didnt clue in until much later that i was wanted at that starbase. This station was pounding my Conda for like a solid minute before I noticed and when I finally did I still had half my hull.

Trust me on this. It is a complete beast. I bet even the best of pilots in an ASP couldnt take even half my shields down, never mind doing any damage to me at all.

Edit: Btw sorry OP for derailing this thread, i will stop talking now..

 

[Jesse30]

You always talking about how bad the Annie in combat is. How about you take into consideration pilot skills and right set up for the job? You may have over 4000k of armour and good shields but that don't mean when you have a FDL pounding you with fixed weapons and doing cartwheels around your ship-fortress.

 

[Slack]

You always talking about how bad the Annie in combat is. How about you take into consideration pilot skills and right set up for the job? You may have over 4000k of armour and good shields but that don't mean when you have a FDL pounding you with fixed weapons and doing cartwheels around your ship-fortress.

Why would you talk about pilot skill when we are comparing ships? What has that got to do with anything? Sure an Ace pilot in a Conda will kill the FDL and the an ace pilot in an FDL will kill a Conda.. your point being?

Btw You still mad? You trolling me now? haha shouldnt you be attacking some defenseless trade ship and bragging about it? Btw.. You need to show off a bit more. Wearing your uniform with all your medals and a having a girl showing off her cleavage doesnt seem like quite enough.. Maybe you should stand in front of a Ferrari at the same time.

 

[Kingston@#]

An anaconda is not hard to destroy if you have the right equipment. as others have said make sure you can afford insurance and A rated equipment. I could buy one, though I think I have along way to go before I could afford added cost if I lost it.
fav ship python

 

[Jesse30]

Wow now you bringing my uniform to this? Who is the real show off after all? You maybe? Btw that is not just one girl, that is my wife I been married for ten years now, so I don't need to impress anyone, that picture is when I went to ball. So please I would appreciate if you stop Personnal attacks is just a game.

 

[Jypson]

Why would you talk about pilot skill when we are comparing ships? What has that got to do with anything? Sure an Ace pilot in a Conda will kill the FDL and the an ace pilot in an FDL will kill a Conda.. your point being?

Btw You still mad? You trolling me now? haha shouldnt you be attacking some defenseless trade ship and bragging about it? Btw.. You need to show off a bit more. Wearing your uniform with all your medals and a having a girl showing off her cleavage doesnt seem like quite enough.. Maybe you should stand in front of a Ferrari at the same time.

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[Slack]

Wow now you bringing my uniform to this? Who is the real show off after all? You maybe? Btw that is not just one girl, that is my wife I been married for ten years now, so I don't need to impress anyone, that picture is when I went to ball. So please I would appreciate if you stop Personnal attacks is just a game.

Well you did "specifically" ask why youre a show off in the other post... and i just once again pointed out the obvious.

 

[Jesse30]

Well you did "specifically" ask why youre a show off in the other post... and i just once again pointed out the obvious.

My wife chose that picture for my profile, I took it off not because of you but I don't need to let anybody knows what I do for a living.