Has anyone else's eyesight deteriorated after more than a year of VR?

[TorTorden_VR]

Ok I saw the optician and she basically just said I've got mild short-sightedness and recommended glasses. I explained everything, including use of the Oculus and she found it interesting but said that there's no evidence that stuff like that has any affect on eyesight and didn't think it was the cause. Given that I've had about 50 responses here, and on reddit, she's definitely right. So no more worries. And I'm getting glasses...ugh

One of us, one of us..
[video=youtube_share;9C4uTEEOJlM]https://youtu.be/9C4uTEEOJlM[/video]

Happy it doesn't seem to be anything more, now just get some glasses with small frames and should be fine. I can wear mine under the rift without any scratching or anything like that and I am -4.5 and -4.
And without glasses I couldn't read the station name on starport menu (the one that replaces the radar when docked)

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Ok I saw the optician and she basically just said I've got mild short-sightedness and recommended glasses. I explained everything, including use of the Oculus and she found it interesting but said that there's no evidence that stuff like that has any affect on eyesight and didn't think it was the cause. Given that I've had about 50 responses here, and on reddit, she's definitely right. So no more worries. And I'm getting glasses...ugh

I was 17 when i realised i needed specs... was at the worst possible time as well, after nailing the driving part of my test the instructor asked me to read a car number plate....

i couldnt. he picked another, and by luck rather than judgement (and a lot of squinting) i got it right. Instructor said by the letter of the law he should have failed me but would give the benefit, but to go and get my eyes checked sharpish.

On the bright side.... Going to football matches afterwards was literally eye opening. Truth is i had spent a couple of years not really "getting" why people spent good money watching live when it was impossible to see anything clearly..... turns out, everyone else could see it clearly.

with hind sight one may think i should have considered i maybe needed glasses! DOH!.

for the following 20 odd years my eyesight plummeted but the last couple of years my eyes seem to have stabilised.

(who knows, maybe VR has saved my vision )

 

[drkaii]

I was 17 when i realised i needed specs... was at the worst possible time as well, after nailing the driving part of my test the instructor asked me to read a car number plate....

i couldnt. he picked another, and by luck rather than judgement (and a lot of squinting) i got it right. Instructor said by the letter of the law he should have failed me but would give the benefit, but to go and get my eyes checked sharpish.

On the bright side.... Going to football matches afterwards was literally eye opening. Truth is i had spent a couple of years not really "getting" why people spent good money watching live when it was impossible to see anything clearly..... turns out, everyone else could see it clearly.

with hind sight one may think i should have considered i maybe needed glasses! DOH!.

for the following 20 odd years my eyesight plummeted but the last couple of years my eyes seem to have stabilised.

(who knows, maybe VR has saved my vision )

I'd like to think so!

 

[Stackers]

I'm saving up for laser surgery

Unfortunately laser surgery doesn't prevent this from happening and chances are you may still end up wearing reading glasses. At least that's what I was told when i had lasik done.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Unfortunately laser surgery doesn't prevent this from happening and chances are you may still end up wearing reading glasses. At least that's what I was told when i had lasik done.

i am funny with my eyes... actually probably not that funny, I am sure most of us are terrified of blindness. I know a few who swear laser surgery is the best decision they have ever made.... but i know of a few who say their night vision is now rubbish with halo effects off almost all light sources.

it took me 10 years to even bring myself to use contact lenses, the thought of poking around my eyes made me feel sick.... that said, i would not be without my sleep in lenses now, i love them!. its almost like having perfect vision without the hassle (though i do choose to take them out for one night a week and also take them out if i am feeling run down or ill)

it will be a cold day in hell before anyone goes near my eyes with a cutting instrument unless it is absolutely essential.

(my dad was a builder before he retired, he had to have glass picked out of his eyeball once after a smashed window hit him in the face, whilst awake, no anaesthetic <pukes loudly!!!> )

sorry if OT, i do like a bit of a Jackanory.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Unfortunately laser surgery doesn't prevent this from happening and chances are you may still end up wearing reading glasses. At least that's what I was told when i had lasik done.

Yeah lasik do sound great, but, at least here considered completely optional, and that leaves private clinics that leaves me feeling as if I just signed off my house to have some guy shoot me in the eyes with a laser...
And I don't own a house.

OK it's not that expensive but we are still talking of at least $6000.
And best case scenario that might mean I didn't need glasses until I'm into my 40's.
Which is six years from now or less.
I could just buy new glasses for $500 every year and still break even, and I don't need to, since I now at most need a refresh every two years maybe even more. And the side effects no matter how rare are scary stuff.

I was actually considering lasik back in 2011, but decided to buy a home theater instead

It's not that I don't have good vision, I just need glasses.

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I'd like to think so!

I do think it has helped my depth perception

 

[Blian]

Yeah lasik do sound great, but, at least here considered completely optional, and that leaves private clinics that leaves me feeling as if I just signed off my house to have some guy shoot me in the eyes with a laser...
And I don't own a house.

OK it's not that expensive but we are still talking of at least $6000.
And best case scenario that might mean I didn't need glasses until I'm into my 40's.
Which is six years from now or less.
I could just buy new glasses for $500 every year and still break even, and I don't need to, since I now at most need a refresh every two years maybe even more. And the side effects no matter how rare are scary stuff.

I was actually considering lasik back in 2011, but decided to buy a home theater instead

It's not that I don't have good vision, I just need glasses.

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I do think it has helped my depth perception

I hesitated for a looooong time, but at age 39 I had enough, and had my eyes fixed. Best decision in my life! There are downsides of course, but the positive effects overweigh them completely.

 

[HailVectron]

We've seen this before! Anyone remember the Opti-Grab?

...and the result!

 

[Stackers]

i am funny with my eyes... actually probably not that funny, I am sure most of us are terrified of blindness. I know a few who swear laser surgery is the best decision they have ever made.... but i know of a few who say their night vision is now rubbish with halo effects off almost all light sources.

it took me 10 years to even bring myself to use contact lenses, the thought of poking around my eyes made me feel sick...

it took me a long time to pluck up the courage....I'd been a contact lenses wearer for years....and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried but it was one of my best decisions. Having said that at night or dark rooms I do get halo effects and God rays around light sources (street lights mainly) although this varies depending if my eyes are dry or not.

Actually my eyes are like the Rift.....better lenses but at the expense of God rays on bright lights against dark backgrounds

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

Drkaii - glad yo hear your eyes are intrinsically ok. Mild short sight is kinda handy sometimes.

@madmike - I've seen 6'6" hairy bikers reduced to weeping lumps leaning on their little old mums when faced with an opthalmologists excimer laser. Not pleasant.
Never trust an eye doctor who says "There may be some slight discomfort"

 

[JasmineJasmine]

As an AMD sufferer with both dry (right eye) and wet (left eye) I just want to thank you for this Blog and I look forward to reading it and gaining information. I’m doing all the right things but know that deterioration is taking place. It is good to know what help is out there for the future especially where reading is concerned. Keep up the good work.,

 

[JasmineJasmine]

I have floaters, but they affect me on the same level as a few dead pixels or remembering to breath. When I don't think about them, I completely forget about them. That said, floaters are only visible in harsh light. The Rift will have a bright screen, but not really bright enough to expose our bacterial comrades. Personally I didn't even think about it once while rifting. The DK2 will be brighter than the DK1 though.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Drkaii - glad yo hear your eyes are intrinsically ok. Mild short sight is kinda handy sometimes.

@madmike - I've seen 6'6" hairy bikers reduced to weeping lumps leaning on their little old mums when faced with an opthalmologists excimer laser. Not pleasant.
Never trust an eye doctor who says "There may be some slight discomfort"

"You will feel a small . Followed by a needle"

:darn censor, ruining my un-funny jokes.

 

[drkaii]

"You will feel a small xxxx. Followed by a needle"

:darn censor, ruining my un-funny jokes.

In my innocence, I initially fixed it for you, then I realised you really did mean the naughty word!

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

In my innocence, I initially fixed it for you, then I realised you really did mean the naughty word!

Haha! Its to balance TorTorden's big head and wide feet! *runs*


@JasmineJasmine - floaters don't figure too much in the Rift. I get them too, but its not bright enough (or uniform enough) to notice them.

 

[Alec Turner]

An optometrist tries out (and talks about) VR and what our eyes are doing when we use it.

[video=youtube_share;hf478Xe9sL8]https://youtu.be/hf478Xe9sL8[/video]

Bottom line: no permanent damage but takes breaks to avoid headaches.

 

[Wolfox]

I'm Playing Obduction with really BAAAAD Frame rate in some locations, but I don't know why I don't feel motion sickness and i'm using the XBOX controller to move around, free moving.
But the The Assembly even if butter smooth it makes me warm up and have stomach roll.

 

[CMDR Valleys]

I'm having problems with my left eye at the moment, which is long sighted, but i'm finding that my VR experience is skewed to face slightly right, unless i adjust the DPS lower which in turn causes serious eye strain in my other eye.

I dont think it's made my eyes worse, but it has highlighted my existing problems and given me some serious eye strain when playing with the settings. Going to the opticians this week to check and will feed back on their advice. For those getting this type of effect i would suggest getting some lenses to compensate (they can be quite cheep overlays or £100 replacement lens). My reading glasses don't appear to help much as their near distance focal length.

I've also experienced having to stop myself focusing too hard to make out distant objects and to just accept the images as presented. Interesting considering that i'm used to near distance work, and this must be an habit of wearing glasses.

I have also read up on eye conditions and just like you have a favourite arm that is stronger so can you have an eye that takes the biggest share and as you age this difference become more pronounced (especially for those who work with computers). If caught while in childhood you have to wear a pirate eye patch to force your brian to accept each image equally. Note sure if this is me yet but seeking advice from an optician.

Got to say though that this game is catering for a huge demographic with many players in their 40/50's who are the ones with the money to buy this kit, i would argue that FD could put in a business case to HTC and Vive or some universities to carry out some research into the affects of VR.


And after saying all that... i can't play the game through a monitor any more. It just doesn't feel right, and even with the awesome graphics on a monitor it doesn't come close to the experience you get in VR. I don't sit in a chair in a small room, i sit in my Cobra MKIII looking out at the environments around me. It has changed the way i play and why i play, combat is fun and involving. SRV driving is a rush, and I find myself deciding to go around that hill instead of driving up fullspeed, and I've even caught myself just sitting in the engineers watching ships come and go. What an experience.

 

[Sanderson]

I'm 46 and had 20/20 a year ago. Honestly, in less than a year my eyesight went from great to farsighted. I got my first glasses four months ago. I also have central serous retinopathy in both eyes.

I can't read a book unless it's at least five feet away, but in my DK2 I can see clearly. VR is the one place I don't need glasses.

I've heard about VR fixing certain eye problems, even curing them but, never causing problems. Most likely OP you're just become part of the "old man" eye club.